DIY E-Nail

budbro18

budbro18

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this top is 16mm OD with 18mm female fitting for 18mm male joints

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And this is the same 16mm OD nail with 14mm female for 14mm male joints.

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And for some reason these things cost an arm and a leg and let me tell you i like using all my limbs.

(sorry for the double post it wouldnt let me upload these pictures in the last reply)
 
Sirdabsalot462

Sirdabsalot462

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The silence or rather lack of the roar of the torch, at first thought to be the ” fix” for the problems that arise in the midst of the night, when one half of the marriage must medicate via vaporization of hash oil.

Here is what I personally experienced,

The quiet dabs were ok at first, until I really got a hold of the nuances involved with the enail, and I was literally billowing vapors that would ” fish-bowl” the entire bedroom with oil vapor.

This proved to be more irritating than the sound of my mini torch which is much more quiet than my Bonjour Creme brulee torch (Vector's Nitro Torch, without the ” branded price point”)..

The proverbial picture GW painted above is a perfect solution for this specifically..

My dab session before sleep is definitely heavy, usually I will portion out my dabs that I feel I will need to drift off into a pain free slumber...usually 5 dabs are prepared, increasing in size, smallest to largest.

This done in a ” rapid fire” capacity...dab, exhale dab, repeat... Usually I can't make it to the last two dabs..

I've unknowingly gotten my wife really high from the resulting vapors.

Thank you for the suggestion brother GW :)

If I can create a ” smoke” buddy” type device for expended vapor...would be awesome for the 3 am pain spikes I often experience.
 
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matthend

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budbro18 said:
this top is 16mm OD with 18mm female fitting for 18mm male joints

View attachment 3003511


And this is the same 16mm OD nail with 14mm female for 14mm male joints.

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And for some reason these things cost an arm and a leg and let me tell you i like using all my limbs.

(sorry for the double post it wouldnt let me upload these pictures in the last reply)
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So these are going to be what the coil goes around and heats?
Still a VERY interested observer to this!
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Thats my plan at least. If i get to talk to this quartz blower and can get them at a reasonable price.

If not probably a knock off infinity nail or one of these ceramic nails

http://www.domeless.com/products/product-details/#cid=372225

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Theyre also making a new version of it thats a lot like the quartz piece i posted before with a skinnier but taller dish so the coil can go around it. Supposed to be more sturdy as well.

The ceramic one right there^ are supposed to last longer with e-nail than torches as well and theyre on sale. $30 for the set and it comes with another replacement dish.

And replacement dishes are $10 for a 2 pack. Pretty good deal if ya ask me.

Ive seen some worn out ass TI nails.
 
budbro18

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So thats all of the main parts minus some connectors and wires but those are gonna be bought as needed. Probably need a few different kinds.

plus a plug, debating between din or xlr.

Im not for sure buying them all online probably gonna go to radio shack or micro center since i have friends workin at both.

So far its a little less than 75 ish dollars plus a case and the little odds and ends. So even with high quality parts it still costs under 100 for the internals.

Stay tuned for more. Gonna be making a video as soon as i order the internals and start assembly!!

First video will probably be how to wire your coil to the DIN/XLR.
 
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vertibam

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I'll be following u brotha. I already built my first enail but was looking to build something with higher quality parts for my friends. I have all the same parts already on the way. Plus my coils if u end up needing an extra. Have u drawn up a wiring diagram to include the fuse yet. That is the only part I'm unsure of.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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That's the one I'm goin off its a little different because the controller I'm getting is a little different on the back.

the fuse is part of the switch/power inlet so you just have to wire it between the power and the switch. Not 100% sure 10 amps is enough but it should be.

ive been lookin at some flat coils people were messin with for better heat dispersion for the infinity type nails. Looks promising.
 
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vertibam

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I just saw those this morning! Now I just gotta try to source some. I'm interested to see your progress. I love my enail so much. It's empowering to be able to say you made it yourself.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Hell yeah ill talk to the guy who gets mine and see if he can get something arranged.

Im a big DIYer whenever possible. Hopefully gonna make a quad copter this summer when its nice enough to fly em regularly. Always wanted to do some mic mods as well but dont have anyone i know interested in them enough to make me do it.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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CalWax said:
will you eventually have to "tune" this pid?
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Well it has an auto tune function on it. Most/alot of PIDs do but im not 100% sure if ill need to do any other tuning.

With this one you basically set auto tun to run, set the temp youre mostly going to be at (between 5-7 ish) and it runs it through a process.

Lets it get to room temp, then heats it up to the designated temp at a medium rate, then lets it cool down back to room temp, then over shoots by a little, back to room temp, under shoots by a little, back to room temp, then right back to the set temp and holds it there for a few minutes. Gets a good sense of the thermocouple and heating element size. So itll probably be pretty quick since the heating element is so small most of these things are made for ovens and kilns so theyre probably used to runnin auto tune for an hour or so to get such a big area up to temp.

Heres a video of another PID running auto tune. Pretty boring but you get the idea.

[video=vimeo;42202506]http://vimeo.com/42202506[/video]



There are P I and D setting on the orignial DIY page that i can always reference if the auto tune doesnt work as well on my controller as it does with the one in the video.

Absolute worse case scenario i have a friend in school for electrical engineering whos crazy at math so he should know about the whole PID equation.
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Coils are in! Gonna try to order my internals tomorrow. Probably be here by monday.

Gettin the wire connectors from radio shack/micro center. Solder and soldering iron from harbor freight just so i have one of my own.

Still waitin on a project box until i get all of my pieces and do a rough layout on a piece of wood. Id like to do something similar to the D-nail and make a wood one but ill have to wait to do that for my own personal box haha.









Any questions let me know. Should start makin the videos once i get my internals!!! Do a layout and kind of half explain everything to the level that i know it. Its pretty easy, except for the actual PID algorithm, but that should be solved by the auto tuner.
 
WarMachine

WarMachine

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Very interesting! Good luck bud bro! Hope you much success!I was thinking of making something similar a few moons ago using a soldering gun but I could never really get it work well at all. It was to much of a highdea (high idea lol). It was pretty different than this but I think you'll be a success!
 
budbro18

budbro18

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Thansk man! This is pretty proven science at this point. Only tricky thing is dialing in the PID algorithm to best suit your coil without burning it out or fucking anything up.

I was trying to make a super cheap diy one with just some resistance wire and a dimmable led ballast. Very dangerous highdea haha

Id encourage you to join its a very very simple build. Like i said hardest part is once youve assembled everything to dial in the controller.
 
jdee

jdee

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Just completed my diy enail today, working real good with the carb cap. Much flavor. Love that you get like 5 hits out of a single dab..and when you aren't hitting it the vapor doesn't escape, or perhaps is not being created until you hit it seems.. :confused: Using xlr connector with type k tc, pid setting P=53.2 I=10.5 D=2.12
 
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