World Of Hempy

SamsonsRiddle

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Hempy's should be watered daily to a 30% runoff. You should at least go back and read the beginning of this tread, it will give you valuable info.
That is my suggestion, they will pick back up. You are treating them like dirt grow, it is a hydroponic grow and should be watered every day, and possibly twice when you get into flower.
GR
This is not my first hempy, lol, and i'm definitely not treating it like a dirt grow.

Some people use larger hempy's in order to not have to water every day - look around and you'll see some examples. The main thing with hempy's is to make sure you don't allow the reservoir to dry and/or the nutrient solution to go stale. (pssss....check post 12)

I'm sorry if that came off sounding like a dick. I've ran hempy's before with coco/perlite and never had this problem. As you can probably guess, i got a sample of mapito and didn't have any more perlite so i ran a mapito hempy with hydroton reservoir.

As I am a man who is not to bull-headed to take advice, I'll try watering every day for a few days and see if it helps.
 

ISK

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This is not my first hempy, lol, and i'm definitely not treating it like a dirt grow.

Some people use larger hempy's in order to not have to water every day - look around and you'll see some examples. The main thing with hempy's is to make sure you don't allow the reservoir to dry and/or the nutrient solution to go stale. (pssss....check post 12)

I'm sorry if that came off sounding like a dick. I've ran hempy's before with coco/perlite and never had this problem. As you can probably guess, i got a sample of mapito and didn't have any more perlite so i ran a mapito hempy with hydroton reservoir.

As I am a man who is not to bull-headed to take advice, I'll try watering every day for a few days and see if it helps.
I only water every day when they are very young, but once established I let them go until dry.

2L pop bottles can go 36 - 48 hours....3 gallon buckets every 4 to 5 days (environmental conditions dependent)

They say you can't over-water a hempy, but I proved that wrong with my first hempy (this was one of the first lessons Moe taught me....documented several hundred pages ago on this thread)
 

gr865

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Sorry did not mean to offend, but your first comment lead me to believe that you were a nube.
I do know I have tried going longer in between waterings and although the plants did not look the worst for wear they perform better with daily waterings. At least that was the way I was taught.
gr
 

ViceCityGrower

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Well hello all. As probably many of you I have spent months reading, saving, and finally building my grow cabinet. Here's a little background. STRAIN: Caramrelicious femenized seeds from AMS / LIGHTS: 6 23watt cfl / MEDIUM: perlite with hydroton on top / CAB: 4x3x2 (HxLxW) / TEMPS: 73°F - 81°F / NUTES: GH Performance Pack / PH: 5.8 / PPM: 679. I started with DWC but couldn't control temps in the bucket so I quickly moved to Hempy. Kinda screwed the pooch in the beginning as this is my first grow transplanted waaaaaayyyyyy to early. Seed sprouted on 1/16/16 and here we are now14549702707862027192611.jpg 14549703084411362750623.jpg 14549703791322041560959.jpg thanks for looking. By the way how does she look for 23 days from sprout?
 

SamsonsRiddle

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Does anyone measure ppm's coming out of their hempy as a guide as to whether they need more or less? Mine is coming out with roughly 50ppm less than what I am putting in the day before. Should I up the ppm of nutes?

Sorry if this has been covered before.
 

ViceCityGrower

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Good question. I haven't yet and probably need to but I know most do. 50ppm doesn't sound like a bad drop but I'm in my first grow so I would like the more informed answer as well
 

gr865

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Does anyone measure ppm's coming out of their hempy as a guide as to whether they need more or less? Mine is coming out with roughly 50ppm less than what I am putting in the day before. Should I up the ppm of nutes?

Sorry if this has been covered before.
What are you putting in and what is coming out?
What is your medium, and type of nutes
 

SamsonsRiddle

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Foliage Pro: 9-3-6 is the npk with all the essential micro and macro nutrients and
ProTekt: 0-0-3 silicon supplement
Floralicious Plus: 2-.8-.02
PPM after everything right now is @ 250 (.5 scale)
Have another next to it in a promix 2 gallon fabric pot with same feeding (except she needs watered every day) that is thriving.
I water every 2-3 days when the reservoir is NEAR dry until 20% runoff.
<----it's up to 300 ppm on .5 scale now, though. coming out around 250.
mapito (rockwool and polyurethane foam) on top and hydroton in the res. been feeding daily since you recommended i do so. week 4 since flip, and in a 9 liter black trash can.
 

gr865

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<----it's up to 300 ppm on .5 scale now, though. coming out around 250.
mapito (rockwool and polyurethane foam) on top and hydroton in the res. been feeding daily since you recommended i do so. week 4 since flip, and in a 9 liter black trash can.
Do they seem to be responding to the daily waterings. I was watering about every 36 hours but now with the grow I am watering daily.
 

gr865

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White Rhino & Exodus Cheese Day 28 of 12/12

Hi y'all,
Interesting week, good fuck up but also good recovery, may have lost a few days grow time.
Was looking at the lower buds on the plants and they were totally shaded and what looked like the start of just plain ol' popcorn buds, so after consulting with a friend I decided to do some trimming. So being the total fool I am I loaded a big bowl and went after them, and once I started I could not stop, so I tended to go a bit overboard. When I finished I just scratched my head and gave my work a WTF look. Sent pics to my buddy as he is a big fan of defol, and he said "man those look great" that they would recover within a week and then I should see some nice thickening of the bud sites. He said after he does his initial trim @ 21 days into 12/12 that he will remove any fan leaf with a petiole of over one inch. I have removed fans before but not to that extent.
Evening of 2/1/16
White Rhino
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Exodus Cheese
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2/2/16
After what I thought was over trimming
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EC
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Group shot
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2/8/16
6 days recovery time
WR
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EC
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Group shot
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Everything seems to be going OK at present, buds are thickening and I have at least 4 to 6 weeks remaining.

Well that's it from my little bit of the world.

GR
 

gr865

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I think that you are going to be pleased with your yield GR.

:0)
Hell I hope so JD, I was not impressed with the original plants overall weight.
I don't think the 400W is doing it, may consider adding the LED to the box.
GR
 

Javadog

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Well, you seem to do pretty well with 400.

I started with a 600 because I read of its efficiency....but I still
added two Kessil 350s.

Good luck,

JD
 

gr865

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JD,
Have you seen https://www.rollitup.org/t/50000-square-feet-colorado-legal-rec-grow.883667/
I conversed with Merlin a few days ago and ask the question about his lights, like many large grow op's I have seen the lighting is well above the plants. Those look to be 5 to7 feet above the plants and his comment was that he keeps his lights at 3 to 4 feet above the canopy and if he moves any closer they get light tox. But with the saturation of light in that grow room, as he said "I am hitting them with so many point of light", meaning he is at light saturation. That is an amazing grow going on there.
So, I fully know that I do not have any where near saturation I think adding an additional light should improve my grow. I will have to do the math on cost and see where I am.
GR
 

Javadog

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I will look. Thanks for the pointer.

I have never had the fortune to chance over-doing it with too much light,
but I know that it is possible. I am sure that you can increase your yield.

I actually removed my pull-ups from my tent and just have the light
as high as I can get it. It is lack of headspace that is most often a
problem. I had a cool rig where the ducting would allow me to drop
the lights way down. I only really used it properly one cycle, but that
was my one monocrop and my one true SOG...and the yield was *crazy*

If I add light then it will likely be LED. I just think that you get more for
your money....I think that that has finally been settled with some of the
40-50 W COBs that I have seen, blasting plants.

How many watts can you move up to?

JD

P.S. LOOK AT THAT ROOM!!! Ha ha ha!

P.P.S. He is probably using double 1000W rigs. Yeah....18" wont do there.
 

gr865

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I have the capacity to do a total of real 350W + from my LED and my 400WHPS. So just under 800W. That is probably too much but may give it a shot.

He is using a Philips Advantage ballast and the matching light I believe, check the start of his post he gives the info somewhere.
That is just one bitching room, when I first saw it full I commented that it looks like it make it all a job. Hell I don't want that, but would like to have the room to grow a few strains at once.

GR
 

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gr865

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I do not do a true flush during my grow but I do something weekly and wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this. Running Coco/Growstone 75/25.
At present I am using two cups my full rate mix per bucket during my daily waterings. One day a week I mix a 2/3 rate and run twice the amount of nute mix thru the 1 gallon buckets or 4 cups, it is actually a little more as I totally empty the entire 5 gallons divided amongst the buckets. My goal is to remove nute build up in the root zone without disrupting the plants grow cycle using just pH'ed water.
Anyone do anything like this or am I just wasting my time and nutes?

Also, I read that tip burn is cause by lack of N, I thought it was caused by too much N, anyone know the real answer to this?

GR
 
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