Have any of you DIY COB Growers finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS? - POLL

Have any of you DIY COB Growers have actually finished a crop under 1000W DE HPS?

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 29.1%

  • No

    Votes: 78 70.9%
  • Total voters
    110
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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That moonshine haze was a great smoke tho, I wouldn't grow again cause it took like 12-14 weeks to finish and I think it could have went longer tbh.
 
Yodaweed

Yodaweed

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a mongo frog said:
Oh one of those.
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Yeah I seem to run into a lot of them lately cause I prefer sativas and trying to find another good one to possibly cross to the golden goat to make a mega sativa cross. Golden Goat is a special plant, it doesn't stretch like other sativas when flipped, its a beast.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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Yodaweed said:
Yeah I seem to run into a lot of them lately cause I prefer sativas and trying to find another good one to possibly cross to the golden goat to make a mega sativa cross. Golden Goat is a special plant, it doesn't stretch like other sativas when flipped, its a beast.
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i grew tangie/ ghost train haze. got 1 keeper out of 5.
8 weeker with great yeilds,tatse and smell
 
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ThaiBaby1

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cdgmoney250 said:
Because lazy ass stoner run companies don't push the envelope. Innovators do.

DE tech is close to a decade old. Companies are hoping to get one last hoorah out of HID lighting before it's truly dead. Including the awful wholesale companies run by stoner idiots like Hydrofarm.

How long did it take Hydrofarm to copy the 315 LEC design? Almost 3 years after Sunlight Supply released theirs? They JUST came out with the their version of DE like last year.

Unfortunately most people think of these companies as having the latest and greatest, but most of what these companies sell is cheap
Chinese knock-off shit. They wait for something to happen and then make a move.

What's the next step after DE? Surely you see how quickly technology is progressing making yesterday's tech obsolete.

So what's gonna be the new best tech??
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True Dat
When I first started growing the hid companies only sold lights with vertically bulb reflectors . Took them years to figure out horizontals
 
PSUAGRO.

PSUAGRO.

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Sativied said:
Schooled me... is there really no level to your pretentious bullshit. Another false claim with no valid arguments to back it up. Just more petty attempts to discredit the one who discredited your nonsense. Gavita folder... Ironic... since all you got is Cree's efficiency graph. Everytime I point out your extreme bias and misleading hyped info you guys meltdown, resort to personal attacks, report like a bunch of butthurt bitches once you upset yourself enough, get the thread locked, and then pretend you schooled me.

I read that same discussion, as I've pointed out in the past I actually know who supra parroted. What is exactly is your point or claim that refutes what I said? Do you think that whazzup losing a discussion and having a case of teacher's curse makes you and your bibled comparisons any less nonsense? As I explained before, someone else being wrong doesn't justify or balance out your bullshitting lol.. Wtf is wrong with you kids... No, me considering whazzup one of many reliable sources of info and he losing that discussion doesn't change the nonsense I refuted in this thread and others into facts.

Did you know they also recommend to replace the reflector every year? Don't pretend I'm some gavita fan to reflect your fan boy behavior on me. I grow with a 1 bulb 600w old magnetic ballast. Admittely I have a "designed by gavita" reflector. It's illegal to grow here you know...

Regardless, you are grabbing my comments about reflection grossly out of context. The whole reason I mentioned them is because intellectual honesty demands I mention that myself even if the list I replied to did not.

""reflector losses aside" "some reflector losses" is far from the truth"
Nope, those are true. Reflector losses aside... Nothing in your parroted results and immature behavior makes that any less far from the truth. In case of the second, you basically create a strawman. 19% (if true still not that 20% I've been hearing in choir..., inflated) is some reflector losses... don't pretend I included a too low number all based on that discussion and not actually the words I quoted.

I replied to examples comparing light sources... already incomplete, adding essential info. When discussing the output of a phillips DE in comparison to led the exact reflectors losses are unknown but I figured it would be fair to at least mention it obviously plays a role. Let's not pretend the lenses and reflectors used with cobs don't reduce efficiency and are free.

So your big words about those quotes being far from the truth is just more bullshit. All you achieved now with your desperate and unsubstaniated attempts to make me a bullshitter like you is showing what a biased bullshitter you are. Again. As usual.

The slanderous greed comment is just douchebaggery... Again desperate to discredit an authority on hps and through you ledlogic than me too. Replacing that bulb every nearly 2 years is very reasonable. Plenty of growers prefer once per year. Obviously that 4% makes enough difference for commercial growers to get a new $100 bulb. As I've said before in similar wording, it's weird having to school a led fan on the importance of 4% efficiency... Let's leave the personal attacks to people who aren't even here out of it. Someone as unprofessional and immatur as you should not be judging people like him.

Do you realize that according to your own ledlogic process you are logically full of shit yourself? Think about it...
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Was your name or tag included in my post?? how do you know I was talking about you?:mrgreen:

I thought you said you don't reply unless your quoted or tagged?======calling bullshit on that statement too obviously

THIS FORUM schooled you back then, not me personally, I'm not an egomaniac like you

you should stop imo, making yourself look worse, if that's even possible

keep spinning-spinning-spinning ............................................................my head hurts reading that ^^^^^ shit, still defending gavita as a non employee???? 10% is where you do as a profit grower, NOT 4%

Cobs/leds are directional, a DE bulb is omni (reflector/losses plays a way bigger role) your output argument is so flawed its laughable
 
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chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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with the amount of weed I am growing, i can replace my DE bulb every month and still be profitable. man you guys are reaching hard.
 
chuck estevez

chuck estevez

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A CHALLENGE TO ANY L.E.D GUYS

as of right now, I have a gavita in a 5x5 space that is growing 9 plants at an average of 5 zips per plant

Build me a light that replaces that gavita for $1500 or less
it must out perform my gavita, fit into the same space, be plug and play and all the other stuff you claim it will do.
in return
I will buy the light and if it does as stated, Promote the hell out of YOUR light, you know I can sell some lights, BUT, you also must be prepared to get torn a new asshole if it DOESN"T do as well or better than my Gavita. I will hold no punches.but will also be 100% honest
any takers?
 
p4id

p4id

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I would say thats not optimal. You really want a cob per square foot, I think the edges would suffer at that distance and Less than 5 cobs.
 
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