DWC to Perpetual

ttystikk

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I bought a 60 site cloner and I'm still trying to figure out why.
I do like to space those fuckers out and start with big cuts if possible though, so a 60 site becomes a 20 site......which is still a bit over count, I'll do peppers in the rest of the sites.
They can count the zits on my ass. With a warrant.
 

ttystikk

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I bought a 60 site cloner and I'm still trying to figure out why.
I do like to space those fuckers out and start with big cuts if possible though, so a 60 site becomes a 20 site......which is still a bit over count, I'll do peppers in the rest of the sites.
I got a 30 hole unit, I use them all.
 

dbkick

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They used to be up to a two inch medium and height and the fact whether you're feeding them or not determined if or if they were not considered a plant....feed, .which I do as soon as I see some nice root action so fuck them.
 

dbkick

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I actually had a mob boss x trip herm a bit one my , nothing major of course and I found no seed personally but it was because my dumb ass left the clone/pre-veg tent on and open all the time and it sits right across from the herm.
 

firsttimeARE

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So for those yellowing tips, what do you guys think it is? I posted those for advice. I had that happen on some of my Archive gear as well. Never did figure it out. All my girl scout cookie strains are doing it besides the 303 platinum gsc. That is N sensitive.
 

dbkick

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So for those yellowing tips, what do you guys think it is? I posted those for advice. I had that happen on some of my Archive gear as well. Never did figure it out. All my girl scout cookie strains are doing it besides the 303 platinum gsc. That is N sensitive.
I dunno, looks like up micros and see what happens.
 

firsttimeARE

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So I guess I should be mixing the 5-11-26 in a 1: 0.67 ration to CaNO3 and mixing the CaNO3 last.

That was with a jacks 5-12-26 which had 6% Mg. The 5-11-26 chem-gro is only 3%.

Imma try this out later.
 

ttystikk

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So I guess I should be mixing the 5-11-26 in a 1: 0.67 ration to CaNO3 and mixing the CaNO3 last.

That was with a jacks 5-12-26 which had 6% Mg. The 5-11-26 chem-gro is only 3%.

Imma try this out later.
Mix your calcium nitrate separately from the rest.
 

ttystikk

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I was mixing the CaNO3 directly in the res and mixing it around a bit then adding epsom salts then the 5-11-26 mix.
Mix in separate buckets as suggested above, then put the dissolved nutes in the res. It's not enough extra work to warrant trying to short cut it, and full dissolution of materials is required to avoid flocculation. Epsom salt is the worst offender for this.
 

firsttimeARE

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Mix in separate buckets as suggested above, then put the dissolved nutes in the res. It's not enough extra work to warrant trying to short cut it, and full dissolution of materials is required to avoid flocculation. Epsom salt is the worst offender for this.
Wasnt trying to short cut. Didnt know this was an issue.

So I was probably fucking up by mixing all in one bucket?
 

ttystikk

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Wasnt trying to short cut. Didnt know this was an issue.

So I was probably fucking up by mixing all in one bucket?
Calcium and sulphur just love each other. So much so that if local concentrations of either are too high, they'll get together in solution and form calcium sulfate. This mineral is 97% water INsoluble, so it drops right out of solution and forms a tan layer on the bottom of your res... of gypsum. Then your plants freak out because all the calcium disappeared.
 

firsttimeARE

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So mix up a gallon of water and CaNO3 and mix up a separate bucket with 2 gallon of the rest. Mix well then pour the CaNO3 water with the rest?

I just changed all my GSCH buckets adding mix until 300ppm then 80ppm of MgSO4 then added 200ppm of CaNO3. Total with tap of 80ppm made it 660PPM (1.32EC).
 

firsttimeARE

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And yesterday GSCH buckets were at 400-450ppm. Some had dropped 0.5EC over 48 hours.

Upped them to 800ppm with 400ppm mix 240ppm CaNO3 and 80ppm MgSO4. Transitioning to bloom so backing off the nitrogen a little.

Not sure what the mix to CaNO3 ratio is for flower. Id imagine less than the 1: .67 ratio in veg.

I noticed the buckets were more stable pH wise. I set them to 5.6 and they were at 6.1-6.3. Normally if they ate that much they would be at like 7.0
 

firsttimeARE

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I really need to get them to flower but the room is full and Dank #5 #4 is putting off balls. I incorrectly said nanners the other day. No nanners but I am getting balls where the axial growth meets the stalk. Keep plucking them off. Its almost like it got pollenated. Maybe the pgsc spit off nanners. Not sure really.

Tempted to plug the xtrasun reflector thats not working with my 315w CMH back up to the 600w HID ballast and putting in an old HPS bulb and flowering everything in my veg area under the 315w CMH and 600w HPS.

Only thing that sucks about that is i would have no area for clones and I want to clone these before I flower.

Other option is waiting but plants will be too big.
 

firsttimeARE

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Nutrient stock testing

TEST RESULTS NORMALRANGE
Soluble Salts ms/cmEC 53.41*
pH 4.05
ALK ppmCaCO3 0
CalciumppmCa 23.94
MagnesiumppmMg 2362
SodiumppmNa 295.9
Chloride ppmCl 2188
Boron ppmB 38.46
Iron ppmFe 68.29
Manganese ppmMn 32.65
Sulfur ppmS 3117
Copper ppmCu 11.74
Zinc ppmZn 8.63
MolybdenumppmMo 2.85
AluminumppmAl 8.64
Nitrate ppmNO3-N 2161
AmmoniumppmNH4-N 10.85
N ppmUrea 0.56
TotalNitrogen ppmTN 865.8
Phosphorus ppmP 2374
PotassiumppmK 8442
 

firsttimeARE

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Doesnt make sense since the npk was 5-11-26

At 1:100 stock my N is 21.61 P is 23.74 and K 84.42ppm

if N to P is roughly 1:2 why are the ppms about the same?
 
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