Purest chem in seed form?

skunkwreck

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These beans are pure so don't think your gonna get SkVa exactly out the seeds. The genes a backcrossed multiple times starting out being bred to and Afghani and incrossed with different generations so some would believe it's inbred too much and some not. Backcrossing multiple times can go the opposite way. I can only go by what I have seen many people report. Well known people on forums that have grown the beans. Everybody not gonna like what comes from the beans cus everyone has different reactions to same stuff but for the most part I have seen people enjoy the Chem D bx3 and ISP Chem 91
We gonna see on my next grow bro , all this talk has already made me dig them out of the vault...you want a few to crack ?
 

akhiymjames

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Here's a pic of the ISP Chem 91 grown by a very good well known grower on forums. Looks like Chem 91 I think Flash pheno is the Afghani dom

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We gonna see on my next grow bro , all this talk has already made me dig them out of the vault...you want a few to crack ?
Hell yea bro pop them babies. Sure bro I'll take a few I gotta get up with you anyways been a min
 

skunkwreck

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Here's a pic of the ISP Chem 91 grown by a very good well known grower on forums. Looks like Chem 91 I think Flash pheno is the Afghani dom

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Hell yea bro pop them babies. Sure bro I'll take a few I gotta get up with you anyways been a min
I know bro , hell I'm trying to resource that CT #4 for you . I had 27 cuts rooting between that and the Blue Dream (SC cut) and CP , Plat D and the Fruit Punch . The Mrs. and I dipped out for a couple days and my dog tore the crap out of them :wall: smh
 

CannaBruh

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Don't sleep on the Mycotek gear guys. I've got them next to a bunch of TopDawg and next to my own workings of the D, #4, Giesel & ECSD, and they (Gorilla Dawg) are blowing a lot of stuff away in stem rub.

If you can get the Stardawg '91 from Top Dawg, it definitely has that funk, not the same cool breathy (water'd down?) like stardawg, but that chemy + the underlying "wtf is that foul stank in there" (not sour, but stank) lying deep with it.
 

CannaBruh

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Also, there are straight up chemy kush phenos I've found within the D progeny, leads me back to the whole did OG come from chem or are they related. Dunno if that lends to inform in anyway, but there are definitely fuel OG phenos within the chem D at least ime. I have one right now that is very close to the ghost but with that chem on top.
 

akhiymjames

Well-Known Member
Don't sleep on the Mycotek gear guys. I've got them next to a bunch of TopDawg and next to my own workings of the D, #4, Giesel & ECSD, and they (Gorilla Dawg) are blowing a lot of stuff away in stem rub.

If you can get the Stardawg '91 from Top Dawg, it definitely has that funk, not the same cool breathy (water'd down?) like stardawg, but that chemy + the underlying "wtf is that foul stank in there" (not sour, but stank) lying deep with it.
It doesn't surprise me pin heads gear is doing well. When you start with good genetics the crosses should be good too. He found a couple nice males to breed with from Topdawg crosses so I def see some nice Chem crosses coming from him.

Also, there are straight up chemy kush phenos I've found within the D progeny, leads me back to the whole did OG come from chem or are they related. Dunno if that lends to inform in anyway, but there are definitely fuel OG phenos within the chem D at least ime. I have one right now that is very close to the ghost but with that chem on top.
I don't think OG came from Chem but I do think they are related somehow. I've seen a few reports on Bodhi's Jahruba and phenos are coming out just like diesel. Don't know if it comes from the Jamaican or Aruban landrace but who knows where that fuel funk really comes from. Would be nice to know so all the stories about what it is or may be can be done with lol
 

Steelsurgeon

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Here's a pic of the ISP Chem 91 grown by a very good well known grower on forums. Looks like Chem 91 I think Flash pheno is the Afghani dom

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Hell yea bro pop them babies. Sure bro I'll take a few I gotta get up with you anyways been a min
That looks a lot more like something i would expect coming out of a pack labeled as "91". Be curious to know how much that pheno pops up
 

akhiymjames

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That looks a lot more like something i would expect coming out of a pack labeled as "91". Be curious to know how much that pheno pops up
Yea def looks like 91 for sure but the breeder info says never mind here is the info straight from breeder lol

Strain Name: Insane Chem 91 aka IC91


Brand: Insane Seed Posse

Landrace,F1,F2, Selfed,Polyhybrid etc : Stabilized Polyhybrid

Lineage: ISP's Chem 91 BX2 (f) x ISP's Chem 91 BX3 (m)

Parental Information

Chem 91 (clone only) aquired in NYC in late 1993, crossed to a
Pre-Invasion Afghan (obtained on the Indus River in late 77 / early
78) during a hash deal. Large selection pool, all offspring tested.
The best male from that cross was repeatedly back crossed to the
Chem 91 (clone only) mother, to produce Chem 91 BX1, BX2, and BX3.
.
This strain is made up of ISP's Chem 91 BX2 (f) x ISP's Chem 91
BX3 (m).
.
Plain & simple, she's a Chem 91 on Pre-Invasion Afghan
Steroids. All the potency, but with better yields.
.
This strain does not like: soggy grow mediums / being rootbound
/ large pH swings / or heavy feeding (moderate feeding gets better
results). Does best grown in soil, peat moss, or coco. Hydro only
for experienced growers.
.

Indica/Sativa %

Indica Dominant

Feminized Seeds?

No

Indoor / Outdoor

Indoor
Outdoor
Greenhouse

Bloom Length:

Pheno # 1: 63 -70 days Pheno # 2: 58-63 days

# of Pheno types?

2

Describe each phenotype expression:

Pheno # 1 (70 %) : looks like a 50/50 mix of Chem 91 & a Pre-
Invasion Afghan. Requires a 30 to 40 day veg, and 63 to 70 days of
flowering for best yields. Cal-mag fed lightly from veg, thru the 4
th week of flowering. Feed moderate to heavy in both veg /
flowering. Forms large main cola, with smaller golf ball sized buds
on side branches. Heavy odor during flowering, predominantly
Chemical Smells / Diesel Fuel with hints of Fruit / Citrus with
Sweet & Sour undertones. Intense up high, followed a short time
later by heavy body relaxation. Occasional smokers may puke from
the rush of THC.

Pheno # 2 (30 %): looks more Pre-Invasion Afghan dominant, but
veg's faster (than a typical Afghan), she also stretches more once
put into flowering. Great potency, like Pheno # 1. Requires a 30 to
40 day veg, 58 to 63 days of flowering for best yields. So, she's a
week faster than Pheno # 1. Same feeding requirements. Best topped
to form several large colas (improves yield). Heavy odor during
flowering, predominantly Fruity odors / Diesel Fuel / Citrus (sweet
oranges & tangy lemons) / with sharp undertones that make your nose
tingle / burn. Very nice up high that builds over time, with more
body effect earlier in the ride. Occasional smokers may puke if
they over indulge (watch out, the flavor lures you in).

Stretch:

1 to 1.5

Resin Profile:

High resin

Odor Score:

8

Odor Description:

Cleaning Chemicals / Diesel Fuel / Fruit / Citrus, with Sweet &
Sour, or Sharp Undertones ...

Flavour Score:

8

Flavor Description:

Diesel Fuel / Ripe Fruits / Citrus / with Sweet & Sour
undertones

Potency Score:

8

High Type:

Intense up high, with lot's of body relaxation
 

Steelsurgeon

Active Member
Recently I saw a snowdawg 2 that was very Nice and the smoke was superb. Guy was pissed he didn't clone or reveg her. The smell and taste, I couldn't pin point. Kinda sweet funk smell. The high is pretty intense cerebral at first then kind of mellows off into a more pleasant cerebral/body high. She was dark leaved, lime green, domed buds that went slightly golden at dry/cure. She's a little more distant from the chem line than most. She contains chem sister, sagarmarthas blueberry, mass super skunk, and Oregon sno. The 2 that my friend had is a backcross from alphakronik genes. Just for the sake of discussion
 

HeirLoom GarGz

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Recently I saw a snowdawg 2 that was very Nice and the smoke was superb. Guy was pissed he didn't clone or reveg her. The smell and taste, I couldn't pin point. Kinda sweet funk smell. The high is pretty intense cerebral at first then kind of mellows off into a more pleasant cerebral/body high. She was dark leaved, lime green, domed buds that went slightly golden at dry/cure. She's a little more distant from the chem line than most. She contains chem sister, sagarmarthas blueberry, mass super skunk, and Oregon sno. The 2 that my friend had is a backcross from alphakronik genes. Just for the sake of discussion
Real Snowdog bred in Mass:) very skunky no sweet
 

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HeirLoom GarGz

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Bro when I got those from GLG it was the only order I had ever gotten that wasn't in a breeders pk just a mini zip with a printed sticker that said Chem D BX3 don't even have ISP on the sticker so I was like hummn and tossed them in the seed vault and never touched them since . o_O
Correction it does in fact say Insane Seed Posse on the sticker...you already know bro you can get anything I have .
How do a prop Chem D bx? Even 3 take 6-9 years but chem d male?
 

HeirLoom GarGz

Well-Known Member
From what I saw on icmag, the real deal chem 91 is the skunk va cut, which has almost black waxy looking leaves that stay dark green throughout flower, the flowers are lime green and dome shaped and cure almost golden. That isp 91 is pretty much right the opposite looking. So what gives? Am I missing something?
Only one its clone only held very tight ..soo many fakes its alot seed comps one biggest has one not real wont say but not many have
 

HeirLoom GarGz

Well-Known Member
Also, there are straight up chemy kush phenos I've found within the D progeny, leads me back to the whole did OG come from chem or are they related. Dunno if that lends to inform in anyway, but there are definitely fuel OG phenos within the chem D at least ime. I have one right now that is very close to the ghost but with that chem on top.
OG is def a chem very very close related same family and ogk is chem its sll chem cookies ect ect
 

HeirLoom GarGz

Well-Known Member
Yea def looks like 91 for sure but the breeder info says never mind here is the info straight from breeder lol

Strain Name: Insane Chem 91 aka IC91


Brand: Insane Seed Posse

Landrace,F1,F2, Selfed,Polyhybrid etc : Stabilized Polyhybrid

Lineage: ISP's Chem 91 BX2 (f) x ISP's Chem 91 BX3 (m)

Parental Information

Chem 91 (clone only) aquired in NYC in late 1993, crossed to a
Pre-Invasion Afghan (obtained on the Indus River in late 77 / early
78) during a hash deal. Large selection pool, all offspring tested.
The best male from that cross was repeatedly back crossed to the
Chem 91 (clone only) mother, to produce Chem 91 BX1, BX2, and BX3.
.
This strain is made up of ISP's Chem 91 BX2 (f) x ISP's Chem 91
BX3 (m).
.
Plain & simple, she's a Chem 91 on Pre-Invasion Afghan
Steroids. All the potency, but with better yields.
.
This strain does not like: soggy grow mediums / being rootbound
/ large pH swings / or heavy feeding (moderate feeding gets better
results). Does best grown in soil, peat moss, or coco. Hydro only
for experienced growers.
.

Indica/Sativa %

Indica Dominant

Feminized Seeds?

No

Indoor / Outdoor

Indoor
Outdoor
Greenhouse

Bloom Length:

Pheno # 1: 63 -70 days Pheno # 2: 58-63 days

# of Pheno types?

2

Describe each phenotype expression:

Pheno # 1 (70 %) : looks like a 50/50 mix of Chem 91 & a Pre-
Invasion Afghan. Requires a 30 to 40 day veg, and 63 to 70 days of
flowering for best yields. Cal-mag fed lightly from veg, thru the 4
th week of flowering. Feed moderate to heavy in both veg /
flowering. Forms large main cola, with smaller golf ball sized buds
on side branches. Heavy odor during flowering, predominantly
Chemical Smells / Diesel Fuel with hints of Fruit / Citrus with
Sweet & Sour undertones. Intense up high, followed a short time
later by heavy body relaxation. Occasional smokers may puke from
the rush of THC.

Pheno # 2 (30 %): looks more Pre-Invasion Afghan dominant, but
veg's faster (than a typical Afghan), she also stretches more once
put into flowering. Great potency, like Pheno # 1. Requires a 30 to
40 day veg, 58 to 63 days of flowering for best yields. So, she's a
week faster than Pheno # 1. Same feeding requirements. Best topped
to form several large colas (improves yield). Heavy odor during
flowering, predominantly Fruity odors / Diesel Fuel / Citrus (sweet
oranges & tangy lemons) / with sharp undertones that make your nose
tingle / burn. Very nice up high that builds over time, with more
body effect earlier in the ride. Occasional smokers may puke if
they over indulge (watch out, the flavor lures you in).

Stretch:

1 to 1.5

Resin Profile:

High resin

Odor Score:

8

Odor Description:

Cleaning Chemicals / Diesel Fuel / Fruit / Citrus, with Sweet &
Sour, or Sharp Undertones ...

Flavour Score:

8

Flavor Description:

Diesel Fuel / Ripe Fruits / Citrus / with Sweet & Sour
undertones

Potency Score:

8

High Type:

Intense up high, with lot's of body relaxation
So they try make own chem? Or a guy did 93? Most that is bs gentics of chem ...mand "pre inasion" a weird sales pitch have 03-04 afg one best there is its just no one goes there now ha but know make up of not close theres only one and only Chem91 Skunk Va clone only
 

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HeirLoom GarGz

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From what I saw on icmag, the real deal chem 91 is the skunk va cut, which has almost black waxy looking leaves that stay dark green throughout flower, the flowers are lime green and dome shaped and cure almost golden. That isp 91 is pretty much right the opposite looking. So what gives? Am I missing something?
Dead on ;;)
 

HeirLoom GarGz

Well-Known Member
It doesn't surprise me pin heads gear is doing well. When you start with good genetics the crosses should be good too. He found a couple nice males to breed with from Topdawg crosses so I def see some nice Chem crosses coming from him.



I don't think OG came from Chem but I do think they are related somehow. I've seen a few reports on Bodhi's Jahruba and phenos are coming out just like diesel. Don't know if it comes from the Jamaican or Aruban landrace but who knows where that fuel funk really comes from. Would be nice to know so all the stories about what it is or may be can be done with lol
So close related its all of modern cannabis and diesel is rename chem91 remade "bred" orig diesel aka diesel 1 no diesel land ...bodhi great but he does not pull chem terps out ...top dawg is part the fam they use legit clone only cuts.....ur kinds rite on land race but not close region and more mixed its dogbud the chem 91is seed of but sorry be tje jerk cant share but one kind plant makes a huge part of it:)
 
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