Oregon Rec. Grow

[Larry {the} Gardener]

Plus I cut a bunch of bud rot out of the BST2. There is about a quarter ounce after I snipped off the worst of it. I saw someone say you could wash that in H202 before drying. Wish I had seen it a few days sooner. I smoked a bowl of it this morning. Taste a lot like Neem oil from spraying for the damn worms.

My Sidetracked: strain is tall and lanky, with more room between the buds. I can't pull as much per plant, but I haven't had any of these kinds of problems with them. Some of the younger ones just starting to flower this week. Now that is the gift that keeps on giving. Well into November I would guess.

 

[Humanrob]

In my non-growing days, it seemed that the fall rains would come at the end of October. Last year (first year growing) I cut early because of bud rot; which I attributed to dew, the lessening intensity/warmth of the sun, and the half assed covers I jigged up. I was just running bag seed last year. Rains for us came right on schedule: Nov. 1st. So far I've been dodging the PM, a leaf or two here and there.

This is only my third year at this house, and every year has been different weather-wise. Last year we had 25mph winds on September 20th, blew the crap out of the plastic we had put over plants, we had to redesign it after that. I also recall the rain starting in September off and on, getting the PM and bud rot seriously going by around the third week of the month.

I now have four plants (two locations) with plastic over the top but not around the sides or bottom. Sort of like an umbrella. I've found its enough to keep about 80% of a vertical rain off of them, and also they are dry in the mornings while the uncovered ones are covered in dew. There is definitely ample air flow. I knew a guy who covered his plants every night and uncovered them every morning just to keep the dew off and then let them air out all day. I'm not set up for that, so I had to pick a compromise set up.

I'm all set up in the garage now -- either just before the next rain or if I find the morning dew is causing PM on them (which ever comes first) I'll move the Jillybean and the Bruce Banner inside. First time I've ever used an HPS, feels weird, like I'm growing under a old street lamp. I had no idea they ran at 2000k, but they're mixed up with a bunch of COBs, mostly 3000k and 4000k. It'll be mighty cramped in there, should be an interesting adventure.

 

[Beavermike]

Started second guessing myself and decided not to chop my oregon diesel this weekend. Decided to give her another week, especially with the great forcast for the Willamette Valley. Sugar black rose is doing much better, the flying skull nuke em has checked the pm and the colas are finally getting bigger. @Humanrob , saw your pic of the mold/fungus on your stem...no idea what it is but good decision to chop that section and cut your losses. The infection was at a super cropped spot, right?

 

[Humanrob]

Started second guessing myself and decided not to chop my oregon diesel this weekend. Decided to give her another week, especially with the great forcast for the Willamette Valley. Sugar black rose is doing much better, the flying skull nuke em has checked the pm and the colas are finally getting bigger. @Humanrob , saw your pic of the mold/fungus on your stem...no idea what it is but good decision to chop that section and cut your losses. The infection was at a super cropped spot, right?

It appears to be "fusarium". After doing some more research (found some good info HERE about halfway down the page) I found parts of the bark that look like the picture on that page -- the bark gets pale and smooth before the mold sets in. Seems to be related to overwatering, which totally makes sense because that plant is deep in the garden and gets watered with everything else -- in other words way too often. We're going to let it dry out and hope for the best.

If your OD can use more time, since the weather is cooperating, might as well soak it up. There are so many times when people are forced by rain to chop early, its great to have the luxury of letting her go longer. On the other hand, we found our OD to be really sleepy pot, so if you let her get too amber... well, you'll never have to worry about insomnia.

No one says you have to take it all at once, I almost never do. You can selectively cut, or take the top/biggest colas and let the rest of the plant have another week to fill out.

 

[Beavermike]

It appears to be "fusarium". After doing some more research (found some good info HERE about halfway down the page) I found parts of the bark that look like the picture on that page -- the bark gets pale and smooth before the mold sets in. Seems to be related to overwatering, which totally makes sense because that plant is deep in the garden and gets watered with everything else -- in other words way too often. We're going to let it dry out and hope for the best.

If your OD can use more time, since the weather is cooperating, might as well soak it up. There are so many times when people are forced by rain to chop early, its great to have the luxury of letting her go longer. On the other hand, we found our OD to be really sleepy pot, so if you let her get too amber... well, you'll never have to worry about insomnia.

No one says you have to take it all at once, I almost never do. You can selectively cut, or take the top/biggest colas and let the rest of the plant have another week to fill out.

Thanks for the article, a lot of good info in there. Your pic does look like fusarium. Good to know that the plant can potentially recover if things dry out.

Now you are making me second guess my second guessing. do you recall how much amber your od had at harvest? Mine only has a few amber trichs on the bud leaves...might be good to harvest the top stems tomorrow instead of waiting for the weekend. A bit of couch lock is good but I don't need the knock out. Our little monsters ( kids) pretty much take care of that already!

Again, appreciate all the great info on riu. This is my first time growing and the info on this site has been invaluable.

 

[WV: Jetson]

That article was very helpful, HR. It's bookmarked. I like the idea of using netting to keep the worms at bay; having found my first one on Mme bag. I also like your idea of setting the garage up with finishing lights; it has boutique appeal: These? They were finished in the Spectrum Infusium Room!

I'm not one for seflies, but sometimes a picture just presents itself



the blue 'raffia' marks a pollinated bud... Speaking of which, I had picked a small tester branch about a month ago and promptly forgot about it. I hung it up high, out of my sight lines... I found it (hey! lookie there) and busted it up to bring in for a smoke, and a seed popped out! The name of this future plant: Immaculate Conception.

 

[Humanrob]

Thanks for the article, a lot of good info in there. Your pic does look like fusarium. Good to know that the plant can potentially recover if things dry out.

Now you are making me second guess my second guessing. do you recall how much amber your od had at harvest? Mine only has a few amber trichs on the bud leaves...might be good to harvest the top stems tomorrow instead of waiting for the weekend. A bit of couch lock is good but I don't need the knock out. Our little monsters ( kids) pretty much take care of that already!

Again, appreciate all the great info on riu. This is my first time growing and the info on this site has been invaluable.

My patient likes serious cerebral highs, so Sativa dominant is how we go 99% of the time. In that vein, I tend to pull my plants at the first sign of Amber because couch lock is not a good thing for us. I think I harvested the OD in two waves, taking the top colas with about 5% amber, and the rest a week later. And as you mentioned, the amber was on the bud leaves (the edges specifically, IIRC). I don't recall the second part showing any amber.

That's something that seems universal in my experience -- that the top colas mature more quickly, and plants in general do not mature uniformly top to bottom. I've also read that some plants trichs simply don't turn amber ever, so I try to take into account the whole look of the bud, and see when it 'feels' like its ready.

 

[Humanrob]

I also like your idea of setting the garage up with finishing lights

At this very moment I'm sitting in the garage, doing the first prolonged light/heat test. I have to go away for 3 days, and I was hoping to put the girls in when I got back -- yesterday's weather report made that look easy. This morning they are calling for rain on Saturday, so now I'm thinking about putting them in before I go. That would give them 3-4 weeks of finishing indoors.

I still wonder if the grass fed cattle analogy holds... don't recall if I've mentioned that. With TRUE grass fed cattle, its "grass fed to finish", because for both the nutritional and flavor benefits of grass feeding to be at their best, grass feeding needs to happen through to the end of the cows life. Some ranchers will "pasture feed" their cattle until the last three months, and then put them on an industry standard corn diet to fatten them up -- and still call it "grass fed" on the label. The corn feeding negates any good done earlier.

Outdoor grown pot tastes and smells better, I can personally attest to this since last year I ran the same strains inside and out. I'm sort of assuming that putting these girls inside will save them from mold, but may cost them some flavor. Sorry for the long winded story... I've got some time to kill while I catch a tan in my garage and watch the thermometers rise.

 

[slow drawl]

My patient likes serious cerebral highs, so Sativa dominant is how we go 99% of the time. In that vein, I tend to pull my plants at the first sign of Amber because couch lock is not a good thing for us. I think I harvested the OD in two waves, taking the top colas with about 5% amber, and the rest a week later. And as you mentioned, the amber was on the bud leaves (the edges specifically, IIRC). I don't recall the second part showing any amber.

That's something that seems universal in my experience -- that the top colas mature more quickly, and plants in general do not mature uniformly top to bottom. I've also read that some plants trichs simply don't turn amber ever, so I try to take into account the whole look of the bud, and see when it 'feels' like its ready.

I love Sativa doms as well but also need a heavy indica for beddy bye. I hope to have some interesting Sativa's to share this harvest. I think the Mekong High is gonna be something of the old school stuff.
I have experienced the no amber trich thing with 3 strains. One season I grew a Northern Wreck in the GH took it to about 85% cloudy the rest clear and no amber. Cut a bud and let it hang for a quick dry and tested...holy shit it was strong. I cut most of the plant and left some to grow, weeks later no amber trichs. It was some of the most potent weed I have ever had. Last season grew a GSC and couple Strawberry cough that never had much of any amber to them. They were cut down middle and late Nov.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

No one says you have to take it all at once, I almost never do. You can selectively cut, or take the top/biggest colas and let the rest of the plant have another week to fill out.

I have done that before. That next level of buds will really puff up when you take the top ones. About a week between cuttings worked for me.

 

[Vnsmkr]

They are done in stages so it makes sense to take them down that way. Unless you are one of those people that lets everything go until all the leaves are cashed . I cant ever wait that long

 

[Beavermike]

Thanks guys for all the input. Decided to start harvesting the od. Chopped two of the main colas and got a huge surprise. Seeds! Lots of them...not sure how this happened since I've been on the look out for male flowers. Kind of bummed but I guess I have a jump on next year hopefully the dude that knocked her up has good genes. Anyone know how far pollen can travel?

 

[Vnsmkr]

Pollen can travel for miles

 

[WV: Jetson]

Thanks guys for all the input. Decided to start harvesting the od. Chopped two of the main colas and got a huge surprise. Seeds! Lots of them...not sure how this happened since I've been on the look out for male flowers. Kind of bummed but I guess I have a jump on next year hopefully the dude that knocked her up has good genes. Anyone know how far pollen can travel?

You're going to have to talk w/your neighbors, Mike. "Well Jim, I notice your son has been hanging around our backyard a lot this summer. An' now look: my Diesel'a is knocked up and full of seeds! I hope you are going to do the honorable thing and..." Something along those lines

We had a pretty good wind yesterday afternoon, gusts around 20. When I made it out to check, the bag plant was leaning pretty good, about 45*. Ack! I propped her back up and staked her better and she'll get a nice cool drink this morning. Hopefully it blew any caterpillars off, too. Was thinking of you HR, did it blow up your way? The last few days, the wind has been noticeably cooler and from the north.

 

[Humanrob]

You're going to have to talk w/your neighbors, Mike. "Well Jim, I notice your son has been hanging around our backyard a lot this summer. An' now look: my Diesel'a is knocked up and full of seeds! I hope you are going to do the honorable thing and..." Something along those lines

We had a pretty good wind yesterday afternoon, gusts around 20. When I made it out to check, the bag plant was leaning pretty good, about 45*. Ack! I propped her back up and staked her better and she'll get a nice cool drink this morning. Hopefully it blew any caterpillars off, too. Was thinking of you HR, did it blow up your way? The last few days, the wind has been noticeably cooler and from the north.

It was "normal" breezy/windy yesterday, not enough to do any damage here. Everything is still holding together, so far so good.

Thanks guys for all the input. Decided to start harvesting the od. Chopped two of the main colas and got a huge surprise. Seeds! Lots of them...not sure how this happened since I've been on the look out for male flowers. Kind of bummed but I guess I have a jump on next year hopefully the dude that knocked her up has good genes. Anyone know how far pollen can travel?

It will be interesting to see what you get! Double check that she's got no balls... I once had a plant hermie, I didn't even see the pollen sacks until I was doing the final trim. As it turns out, those seeds I found are now the two frostiest sweetest smelling plants in my yard! The one time I "successfully" bred a plant, and it was entirely unintentional! LOL

 

[Humanrob]

I have to get in under my scrog every couple of days to clean things up, check things out, and this morning I noticed what's in the picture below. At first glance (kind of spacing out, I guess) I thought two branches that I had trimmed had grown together... it just didn't occur to me right away that this plant that has been growing through a scrog (in other words -- well supported) for months has split. Odd split, that one.

The plant is so integrated with the scrog fence, there is no way to push the parts together to close up the split, but it looks to me that it has long since healed anyway.

 

[WV: Jetson]

That's a crazy pic!

 

[Humanrob]

Got a lot done yesterday, brought the two into the garage that are going to live out their days there. Since one is in a (small) SIP and has access to electricity now, I went ahead and dropped an airstone in the res. That one is hurting, so I'll throw everything I can at it. I also added extensions to the hoop-house ends, and put a fan in there. It's troubling how I'm seeing PM everywhere, so far just small amounts, but it feels a bit like seeing one cockroach...

I have to head out for a few days, going to an out-of-town funeral. I suppose if there is an upside to such a trip, at least its in beautiful New Mexico, could have been anywhere. Probably be offline until I'm back, so have a good few days everyone.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

Thanks guys for all the input. Decided to start harvesting the od. Chopped two of the main colas and got a huge surprise. Seeds! Lots of them...not sure how this happened since I've been on the look out for male flowers. Kind of bummed but I guess I have a jump on next year hopefully the dude that knocked her up has good genes. Anyone know how far pollen can travel?

If you only had a few seeds I would think maybe pollen blew in from outside your grow. But with lots of seeds, I bet you will find that it is a hermie. I've had success with hermie seeds before. If you run them next year, just space out your plants in case of more hermies.

 

[Larry {the} Gardener]

I have to head out for a few days, going to an out-of-town funeral. I suppose if there is an upside to such a trip, at least its in beautiful New Mexico, could have been anywhere. Probably be offline until I'm back, so have a good few days everyone.

Funerals is about the only time I see most of my kin. Hope you have a good visit. And come back to no PM.