Lazy Man's Way to Cleaner Hydroponic Cannabis

Douglas.Curtis

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Does this guy really believe that water only 100% organic is dirty weed? Hydrogaurd is dirty too? Wtf is wrong with this guy.
This statement right here. This one says you know nothing about hyper/dynamic accumulator plants.

Go get a real education about cannabis and organics and hyper/dynamic accumulator plants, then come talk to me. lol Until then, your posts can whistle in the wind, for all the attention they'll get from me here.
 
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Gary Goodson

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This statement right here. This one says you know nothing about hyper/dynamic accumulator plants.

Go get a real education about cannabis and organics and hyper/dynamic accumulator plants, then come talk to me. lol Until then, your posts can whistle in the wind, for all the attention they'll get from me here.
You take what you want out of that and try to twist it all you want. My soil is top grade and I'd put it up against your hydro any day. But it's easy for you to post here in RIU and make claims of how clean your weed is without having to show any proof. You really don't see how this whole forums thinks you're a joke.

Remember everyone is watching and yes, we are all laughing at you.
 

rkymtnman

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That's a good question. One that, apparently, has not been quantified yet.

I have my own guidelines though.

* Extremely lightweight ash, less than 1/3rd the volume of a tightly packed bowl should remain. This is without touching the ash or packing it down.
* Virtually zero "burnt matter" taste in the cannabis
* Zero nutrient taste when burned
* Zero crackling or sparking
* Zero cherrying. Meaning it goes out on its own when not being toked on.
* Extremely low heat ash. You can put your thumb over a freshly toked bowl and not burn it or even singe it, just get warm to almost hot.

Whatever that ends up testing out at, I'll let people know.
will you be testing your weed and a few sample of dispensary weed grown with chemicals and organics?

p.s. dude, what if you don't smoke bowls? all of those quidelines mean nothing to a vaper.
 

Budley Doright

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Those are instructions for not having a ppm meter, just a pH pen or drops. (I said no pH pen or drops above, but that's wrong)
When you mix a ten gallon res and have added back 10 gallons of top off r/o, you dump it and start over. Should be just shy of 2 weeks when done that way.

Read the entire "Ask Lucas" thread and you'll see what I'm talking about.
I have read the entire thing, years ago and did take some good info from it but I do my own thing :).
 

Douglas.Curtis

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will you be testing your weed and a few sample of dispensary weed grown with chemicals and organics?

p.s. dude, what if you don't smoke bowls? all of those quidelines mean nothing to a vaper.
Yes, I plan on testing npk, micros, silica/silicon, terpene levels and cannabinoids. I would really like to pass some cuts to a great organic grower and test it that way, same genetics is a much better way to clarify things. Dispensaries would be too easy to beat, I plan on testing a few just for kicks and to fill out the graphics. ;)

I won't be the first person to beat organics with hydro, terpene/cannabinoid wise, I'll certainly not be the last. lol I have zero doubts my cannabis will be as clean, or cleaner, than any organic offering. Cleaner as in fewer residuals of everything.

Vaping flower still carries the contaminates, doing extracts loses terpenes. When you're smoking flower so clean it tastes like really fine hash, all the work to extract for vaping isn't worth it. At least not for me. :)
 

Cyrus420

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8 years of constantly changing the way I grow. Some side by side for verification of more difficult to determine issues.
You really need to stop referring to your personal experience as research the are two different things, one is subjective the other is objective. Until you do work that is peer reviewed and put into a scientific journal your "research" is just anecdotal to most of us. We all don't have the time or resources to grow your way so providing us with more than just your personal claim of "it works try it for yourself" would go a lot longer in convincing us of what you're trying to impart.

Edit: Or real recent pictures of your harvests or garden...or something more substantial than the same images you use on every other website and your book.
 

Cyrus420

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That's a good question. One that, apparently, has not been quantified yet.

I have my own guidelines though.

* Extremely lightweight ash, less than 1/3rd the volume of a tightly packed bowl should remain. This is without touching the ash or packing it down.
* Virtually zero "burnt matter" taste in the cannabis
* Zero nutrient taste when burned
* Zero crackling or sparking
* Zero cherrying. Meaning it goes out on its own when not being toked on.
* Extremely low heat ash. You can put your thumb over a freshly toked bowl and not burn it or even singe it, just get warm to almost hot.

Whatever that ends up testing out at, I'll let people know.
Do you have anything backing up the whole white ash thing? I've smoked some reggie that burned white and smooth but did fuck all to me, it would of passed your guidelines. So your guidelines can be passed by street quality cannabis letting you know.
 

Cyrus420

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Yes, I plan on testing npk, micros, silica/silicon, terpene levels and cannabinoids. I would really like to pass some cuts to a great organic grower and test it that way, same genetics is a much better way to clarify things. Dispensaries would be too easy to beat, I plan on testing a few just for kicks and to fill out the graphics. ;)

I won't be the first person to beat organics with hydro, terpene/cannabinoid wise, I'll certainly not be the last. lol I have zero doubts my cannabis will be as clean, or cleaner, than any organic offering. Cleaner as in fewer residuals of everything.

Vaping flower still carries the contaminates, doing extracts loses terpenes. When you're smoking flower so clean it tastes like really fine hash, all the work to extract for vaping isn't worth it. At least not for me. :)
Can you expand upon "fewer residuals?" I wasn't aware cannabis carried anything residual through harvest as I've been told the nutrients are kept in the roots not the buds.
 

Gary Goodson

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Ok @Cyrus420 go ahead an rip this douche bag a new one. At first I was like "why is Cyrus giving this guy such a hard time?" But now I see, it's because he sucks so much ass...




So, carry on
 

Cyrus420

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Ok @Cyrus420 go ahead an rip this douche bag a new one. At first I was like "why is Cyrus giving this guy such a hard time?" But now I see, it's because he sucks so much ass...




So, carry on
Douglas and I already had some interaction on this site before in his first thread. I calmed down on being aggressive towards him and just decided to ask some question to see if I could get him to clarify. For once you and I are in agreement on something and Douglas does talk a big game without backing it up.
 

Gary Goodson

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Douglas and I already had some interaction on this site before in his first thread. I calmed down on being aggressive towards him and just decided to ask some question to see if I could get him to clarify. For once you and I are in agreement on something and Douglas does talk a big game without backing it up.
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Budley Doright

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As Gary said most here are not newbs and when someone comes on telling people how his/her pot is better/cleaner than others with nothing to back the claim other than "the ash is white" then yes let the games begin.
 

JJ McBrick

Active Member
I do not agree with RO water. When you read an analysis of your tap water, you can actually use some of it to your advantage.
Cannabis is extremely picky and I (and many other growers) do not have time to minutely analyze the changes in the local tap water. Using r/o is extremely clean, in nearly every spot on the earth. Once you learn clean hydro with R/O, you will not have to re-learn when your water supply changes. Almost all tap water has contaminants in it which cannabis does not need and yet it will absorb it anyway.

See my mention of a good, efficient RO unit...makes resistance futile! :)

ZeroWaste® Reverse Osmosis System by Watts Premier

I've had this unit for 6 years supplying all my drinking and cooking needs (notice I didn't say growing :) and all I ever replaced was the crummy pre-filter for like 2$...at least a thousand gals and the best part?! ZERO WASTE! Read the tech, pretty interesting.

Btw, dabbled w/dwc but only once. NO LONGER APPLICABLE...

Ll&p
 

Budley Doright

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I do not agree with RO water. When you read an analysis of your tap water, you can actually use some of it to your advantage.
Cannabis is extremely picky and I (and many other growers) do not have time to minutely analyze the changes in the local tap water. Using r/o is extremely clean, in nearly every spot on the earth. Once you learn clean hydro with R/O, you will not have to re-learn when your water supply changes. Almost all tap water has contaminants in it which cannabis does not need and yet it will absorb it anyway.

See my mention of a good, efficient RO unit...makes resistance futile! :)

ZeroWaste® Reverse Osmosis System by Watts Premier

I've had this unit for 6 years supplying all my drinking and cooking needs (notice I didn't say growing :) and all I ever replaced was the crummy pre-filter for like 2$...at least a thousand gals and the best part?! ZERO WASTE! Read the tech, pretty interesting.

Btw, dabbled w/dwc but only once. NO LONGER APPLICABLE...

Ll&p
I'm confused? Are you for or against RO water lol.
 
This is my question too..so much debate about the type of water needed for hydroponics, it's overwhelming. And anyone know of cheaper but good r/o filter units. I might cave and just buy one if I ever plan on growing out of soil
 

Budley Doright

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I use well water and it's ok but I'm thinking that if you can run an RO setup (I can't) it would be like starting with a clean slate so to speak. It did take a bit of dialling in but once that was done it's working well. My water is 24 grains of hardness with no iron so mostly calcium and magnesium near as I can tell. I did have calcium and mag issues but have overcome those with the addition of an amino supplement.
 
I'm confused? Are you for or against RO water lol.
i think s/he is just giving an alternative to RO water. Zero water apparently gives the same effects (0ppm). The filters aren't $2 from my experience though. more like 8-10$

I like zero water because there is no "waste" like there is with RO water. it takes like 3 gallons of water to get 1 gallon of RO.
 
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