Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

letdown shifty

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@Bry0n6974 What kind of plant count you looking to grow? perpetual harvest? Give some basic info on what you're looking to accomplish, and we'll see if we can get you on the right path to happily growing.
 

Bry0n6974

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@Bry0n6974 What kind of plant count you looking to grow? perpetual harvest? Give some basic info on what you're looking to accomplish, and we'll see if we can get you on the right path to happily growing.
How do I post pics on here ? Of a set up I made with CFLs as my lights its a little small and my plants are very crowded and I also don't know which plants are male or female ...can you help @letdown shifty
 
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batrgrower

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I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them ad stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?
 

StinkBud

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I noticed ss and a couple other people using those strong boxes, but leaving the lids yellow and not painting them ad stink suggested. Anyone have any feedback on that?
The paint tends to start chipping off after a while so I don't recommend painting anymore. The last Aero system I made I used an ice cooler. It's made to hold water, light proof and is insulated so the water stays cooler. They come in every size you can imagine and last forever. The only downside is price. The big coolers can get expensive. Many of you have an old cooler in the garage or can pick up one at a garage sale cheap.
 

StinkBud

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I've been hanging out with some of the best organic growers in the world lately. These guys are hard core! They make their own nute tea out of the old leaves and stems by adding water and yeast then letting it cook. Then they evaporate off the alcohol and use the tea to fertilize their plants. Since it's made out of cannabis it has everything the plants need in the exact correct ratio.

They are using a lot of ground breaking techniques to produce the best bud on earth. There's a lot to the process but I'll be filling you in on some of what I've learned. I'm also writing an article on the techniques along with posting some videos too. Here are some "Thanksgiving" photos for you to drool over...
 
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batrgrower

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The paint tends to start chipping off after a while so I don't recommend painting anymore. The last Aero system I made I used an ice cooler. It's made to hold water, light proof and is insulated so the water stays cooler. They come in every size you can imagine and last forever. The only downside is price. The big coolers can get expensive. Many of you have an old cooler in the garage or can pick up one at a garage sale cheap.
Thanks for the reply stinkbud. I went ahead and left them unpainted. I've got a seedling in the unit now.

I'm running hydroguard and pondzyme in my res. I adjusted my ph to 5.6 after adding nutes. About 7 hours later the ph was up to 6.6. My res temp hangs between 68-70. My room is 76-79.

Is this type if ph change normal? Should I ride it out or continuously keep adding ph up and down to keep it 5.6-5.8?
 

StinkBud

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Alright guys, I dare say I'm ready to make a post here and ask some questions. I've read through this whole thread, all 11k something posts. It's quite a read. Looks like a lot of shit went down over the years.

I've also read through both of SS's larger threads.

Couple things that I haven't really been able to decide on, looking for opinions.

Between Stink and SS they do a lot of similar things but some things are quite different. It seems that Stink's setup has the plants closer together with more plants per rail, whereas SS uses further distance apart with fewer plants.

Has anyone been able to decide which way would be better in regards to yield?

Next thing are nutrients. Stink uses 2000ppm nutrient setup and SS states that anything over 1000ppm is a waste.

So I'm looking to start on a design of a build and get some seeds started but trying to plan ahead with the build to determine what's the best way to utilize space and maximize yield.

I hope to get to know everyone around here as it seems you all are really good people.

Thanks everyone.
Here's the thing bro... The original article was posted in 2008 from stuff I was doing in 2006. For example, the things we are learning about beneficial bacteria wasn't really known about 10 years ago. I mean we knew about it but you couldn't go down to your local store and buy it and we didn't have a clue about how to use them even if we could. Growing techniques change daily. Success still depends on one core element, genetics.

By far the most important thing is genetics. Genetics is 99% of your success. You can take a clone of OG Kush SFV and grow it in store bought soil with off the shelf nutes and it will be amazing! There are guys around here getting 2lbs. per light using soil and winning awards doing it! Now of course you still need basic knowledge but my point is growing weed is easy if you don't make it hard. One of the things I've learned over the last 10 years if what may be easy for one guy, may be impossible for another. It took me awhile to admit it but I'm a realist not superman.

I've gotten to the point that I tell people if you want to grow with Aero you need to get a chiller for your water. Why? Because chances are if you don't, you'll end up with root rot. In fact if I was still hard core aero I'd be running a sterile res and keep it clear. Then flush the fuck out of it for two weeks. I know guys that do it that way and the bud taste fine. Not as much flavor as organic but great bag appeal, smell, high... Aeroponics is for the guys that drive fast cars. But we all know you don't need a Porsche to get groceries.

The way I've been teaching people the last couple of years is to start them off using soil with Botanicare nutrients. After a few successful grows they either stay with soil or move on to Coco. You don't have issues with coco like you do with aero. The coco acts like air conditioning for your roots so they always stay nice and cool. You can run bennies with coco and never have to worry about root rot. Growth rates are as good if not better than aero. My next grow article will use coco fiber...

Remember...The article is titled "Harvest a pound every three weeks". You should expect techniques and knowledge would change over time. Especially if the original poster (me) refused to stagnate. I'm never going to stop learning and trying new things.

Someday I will hand you guys the most important thing I've ever done in my life. Someday I will hand you the genetics I'm working on right now. I've been working on this for what seems like my whole life. All I can say right now is HOLY SHIT!
 

StinkBud

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Thanks for the reply stinkbud. I went ahead and left them unpainted. I've got a seedling in the unit now.

I'm running hydroguard and pondzyme in my res. I adjusted my ph to 5.6 after adding nutes. About 7 hours later the ph was up to 6.6. My res temp hangs between 68-70. My room is 76-79.

Is this type if ph change normal? Should I ride it out or continuously keep adding ph up and down to keep it 5.6-5.8?
Your PH shouldn't swing much. Be careful about continuing to add PH up or down. Usually if it keeps climbing or dropping, something is wrong.

If you're really about light causing algea then just put a piece of black plastic over the res.
 

batrgrower

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Your PH shouldn't swing much. Be careful about continuing to add PH up or down. Usually if it keeps climbing or dropping, something is wrong.

If you're really about light causing algea then just put a piece of black plastic over the res.
The ph was up to 6.1 last night so I adjusted down to 5.6 again. This morning it's only up to 5.7. I think maybe the res just needed a couple days to level itself out. I'll check again this evening.

Thanks for the reply stinkbud.
 

JayThe HydroGuy

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I've been hanging out with some of the best organic growers in the world lately. These guys are hard core! They make their own nute tea out of the old leaves and stems by adding water and yeast then letting it cook. Then they evaporate off the alcohol and use the tea to fertilize their plants. Since it's made out of cannabis it has everything the plants need in the exact correct ratio.

They are using a lot of ground breaking techniques to produce the best bud on earth. There's a lot to the process but I'll be filling you in on some of what I've learned. I'm also writing an article on the techniques along with posting some videos too. Here are some "Thanksgiving" photos for you to drool over...
hey bro, any idea what genetics these are?
 

JayThe HydroGuy

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The ph was up to 6.1 last night so I adjusted down to 5.6 again. This morning it's only up to 5.7. I think maybe the res just needed a couple days to level itself out. I'll check again this evening.

Thanks for the reply stinkbud.
Just a thought, are you checking your ppms when you have big ph swings? seems like a short amount of time but maybe they are taking more nutrients than water which could cause a ph swing. I had a couple aggressive eaters that would give me ph flux on a new res. Like Stinkbud said, don't adjust ph daily. The constant up/down could be more detrimental than letting it go 2-3 days.
 

batrgrower

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Just a thought, are you checking your ppms when you have big ph swings? seems like a short amount of time but maybe they are taking more nutrients than water which could cause a ph swing. I had a couple aggressive eaters that would give me ph flux on a new res. Like Stinkbud said, don't adjust ph daily. The constant up/down could be more detrimental than letting it go 2-3 days.
Yeah, I've monitored the ppms too. That's what was kinda confusing me because the ppm was also rising.

Nutes were added to 300ppm. Next day it was up to almost 350. Then the 3rd day, yesterday, it was back down to 315.

I'm going to change the res this weekend and see what happens.
 

JayThe HydroGuy

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Yeah, I've monitored the ppms too. That's what was kinda confusing me because the ppm was also rising.

Nutes were added to 300ppm. Next day it was up to almost 350. Then the 3rd day, yesterday, it was back down to 315.

I'm going to change the res this weekend and see what happens.
higher ppms than what was mixed mean they are taking more water, and vice versa. Lower ppms they are taking more nutes
 

Voidling

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I remember you were working on an Oregon special system or something when I left last time. Did that have its own thread or article or is it somewhere in this thread?

Anything different than a cut down version of your bigger system?

I look forward to seeing what you've done with coco, that has been my main way of growing.

I can get whole rice hulls here cheap and want to experiment with then in a mix as they don't hold water. Ground rice hulls are used for replacing moss but I have to buy a semi truck worth and pay for that hauling :(
 
I like Titan's products, I run their light controller and fan controller. I don't know anything about the century's. I bought an autopilot timer and I hate it mainly because of the adjustment knobs, they move way to easily, so any little bump throws the timing out. Also, the adjustment on them is so fine trying to adjust them is a fucking PITA. There's about a 1/4" range that goes from 0 mins to 10 minutes, trying to get it close to 1 min took me 30+ mins to get it right. I wrapped wire around the base of the knob to lock it in place once I got it. I'm going all digital from here on out.
This timer should be the new king. Seriously. It's fully programmable as a cycle or period timer, day selectable, uses a battery to store programming and run the clock and it's price drops under $15.

http://a.co/7mU5c5s

So I'm going on vacation for Thanksgiving, and I'll be leaving my new TAG system unattended for 5 days. I'm pretty sure there's a high chance of failure considering the system is only a week old and I'm still learning/stabilizing everything. The only thing automated in my system at this point are the pumps and lights. Since I'm using a shared reservoir/root chamber with an external pump, I was going to stick a low-pressure submersible pump with some of the plastic red nozzles into the reservoir/root chamber as a backup to the high pressure brass fogger system, and I was debating on how I should setup it's "life support" backup spray.. I was thinking like 15 minutes every 6 hours? Other than that I was going to use refill the nutrient solution and add a pinch of unstabilized pool shock to 5 gallons instead of hydroguard because I'd rather just chem it up and go then worry about organics or anything. Finally, I was going to throw rootmaker propagation containers under the root area so as they grow down into the reservoir, they kinda bundle up on themselves instead of tying to each other ( see http://rootmaker.com/retail/20 ). Does this seem like a decent plan? My air pump and HP/LP water pumps are the only devices on a 1200VA UPS device.
 
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420circuit

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Hey Stink, just passing thru and thought that I should stop to say thanks again for the grow tips and excellent details that helped me to build that growing machine a few years back. You may recall that I had a brain tumor resected in 2010 and decided to go for it with cannabis oil, using your 2008 post as a starting point. I got better and the tumor has not grown back, perhaps because of the cannabis oil. So, your post may have helped to save me. Thank you.

My garden changes every grow, sometimes soil, sometimes organic, depending what I'm growing for. The aromas with organic soil can sure be nice, I save that extra effort for special buds, destined for smoking, mostly sativa dominant strains. The cloner has been great to have around to save the genetics of the best plants, and also as a tool in seed breeding. I gave up on smart pots for soil because of the stuff that grows on the outside of them, hard side 4 gallon works for my small 600W garden. What has worked best for me is having veg plants in netpots to supply the cloner with cuts, then flower with either soil or the rails, depending on strains. The all-CBD plants are good in the rails and use Jack's nutrients, so cost is very low. The GDP and Blue Dream come out best in soil, so get a variety of nutes, mostly organic style. What I've learned is that examining each plant closely, daily, addressing it's support and trimming needs, keeps everything on track and problem free. Keeping the grow super clean, always a fan moving the leaves, good charcoal filters, temp around 80... I have derived more enjoyment from indoor gardening than I can express, it has been therapy, poetry and entertainment, just a great way to spend time. Not to mention the primo buds and cannabis oil.

I tried socializing with local cannabis enthusiasts here in CO, but have given up because of low lifes who inhabit that community. The underground market will hopefully diminish here as legalization drives profits down, and the gangsta wannabes move back home. They get busted all the time and have caused more rules to be applied to the growing here, causing problems for the people who are trying to help with legalization by setting an example. I am reluctant to go public because of the problem with bad actors, they have brought law enforcement into the process because of their mad rush to make a buck. Some of the people in this community are the best of the best, just wonderful human beings, but then there are the bad actors, who fail to understand why we should push for full legalization, probably because of their cash motivated lives, typically devoid of love or civility. It is refreshing to find someone with your mindset in this arena, seriously, your attitude sets a standard that is admirable. Growing cannabis is fun and rewarding, but people who spray pesticides on buds and then sell them are doing it wrong. Same folks who try to sell crappy BHO as a cancer cure. Point is, people who are doing it right should be recognized for their work so the rest of us can learn and move ahead.

Tell you what, if you can swing by over the holidays, I'll pass along a 6 pack of home brewed beer, made with a full 2 ounces of dried buds, added at the start of the 1 hour boil. Only a person who enjoys the dank can fully appreciate the flavor. Thanks again StinkBud!


I've been hanging out with some of the best organic growers in the world lately. These guys are hard core! They make their own nute tea out of the old leaves and stems by adding water and yeast then letting it cook. Then they evaporate off the alcohol and use the tea to fertilize their plants. Since it's made out of cannabis it has everything the plants need in the exact correct ratio.

They are using a lot of ground breaking techniques to produce the best bud on earth. There's a lot to the process but I'll be filling you in on some of what I've learned. I'm also writing an article on the techniques along with posting some videos too. Here are some "Thanksgiving" photos for you to drool over...
 

batrgrower

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This timer should be the new king. Seriously. It's fully programmable as a cycle or period timer, day selectable, uses a battery to store programming and run the clock and it's price drops under $15.
I purchased this exact timer and it does work like we need it to for our system, however, the thing just randomly stops during its operation.

I hooked it up last Saturday and it ran perfectly all week, 80 seconds on and then 8 minutes off.

Then I came home from work on Friday and my plant was completely wilted and laid over, I was like what the hell? Then I realized the top line of the timer display was blank where usually it shows how much time is left on the on/off cycle.

So I reset the timer to the times I needed and let it run again. It ran fine until late Saturday evening. I went in to check things and the top line on the timer was completely blank again. What. The. Fuck.

So, I went ahead and used the reset button to reset the timer and then redid my times. It's been running okay since Saturday night but be advised this thing seems to be doing some weird shit.

I'd definitely have a backup if you're leaving town for the holiday. I ordered another timer from a different seller on Amazon but the timer itself looks exactly the same, minus the brand name stamped on the front, so hopefully I just bought a fluke.
 
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