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Dr.Amber Trichome

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Sorry that is a Matisse cut out.

I am feeling very disconnected from this New drawing.There are parts of it I really like but so much I don't and it's getting to be noooo fun. It has gone through so many metamorphosis. Maybe I just need step away for a while. Lots of energy put into it in a short amount of time and just when I think I find new solutions I realize it's not what I'm after.. it's been so hard to nail down what I want to express. So do I say fuck it . Burn it. and start fresh or keep trucking??!! The mask page I'm happy with .
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robot.logik

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I think it looks cool so far, but I also understand what youre going through. Ive had this happen about 5 or 6 times since I started drawing high. Its like your mind tells you this is wrong and you need to edit it. In my own work, I find I do this often, but move on to another part of a drawing, and forget about the last part, it takes about an hour of editing until I can feel comfortable. I like the masks too, very cool! :)
 

Ace Yonder

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I Say Keep On Trucking Doc. Looks Like You Channeled Jimi Hendrix :hump:

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I second this motion. If you have to burn it, just burn a corner so that your frustration will have physical representation in the work, but it is a beautiful piece and it would be a shame to see the whole thing reduced to ash. You might look at it in a month or two and see something lurking in the unfilled spaces that ties it all together.
 
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Ace Yonder

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On a separate note, I just watched the greatest documentary on Netflix called Beltracchi: The Art of Forgery, and I am now recommending it to everyone who has even a passing interest in art, I found it absolutely fascinating. It's about a German art forger, but the thing that really struck me was that he didn't copy famous paintings and pretend they were legit, he would paint brand new painting in a perfect match of their style and claim they were newly discovered pieces, and not only did they pass as legitimate for a very very long time, they were sometimes regarded as the best work by those artists to have surfaced.

This his forged painting in the style of Campendonk, it sold for over 3 million Euros which, when it was thought to be genuine, made it the most expensive Campendonk sold to date.
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This is a forgery in the style of Max Ernst that sold for over $7 million
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And this is another in the style of Max Ernst, I don't think it was sold but you get to see him paint it during the documentary which is AWESOME.
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Dr.Amber Trichome

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I think it looks cool so far, but I also understand what youre going through. Ive had this happen about 5 or 6 times since I started drawing high. Its like your mind tells you this is wrong and you need to edit it. In my own work, I find I do this often, but move on to another part of a drawing, and forget about the last part, it takes about an hour of editing until I can feel comfortable. I like the masks too, very cool! :)
This happens to me quite often and it's a very difficult part of my creative cycle that I deal with. I go through waves of great free expression filled with a tremendous amount of joy and discovery and then I dip into lows of confusion and destructive expression where I can't move forward .
Thank you for sharing your experience and giving me advice and support. Your lucky you can work so fluently through your work . I am still trying to figure out what to do every step of the way.Its like I get too intuitive sometimes and the proper energy and insight just is not available.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I Say Keep On Trucking Doc. Looks Like You Channeled Jimi Hendrix :hump:

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I second this motion. If you have to burn it, just burn a corner so that your frustration will have physical representation in the work, but it is a beautiful piece and it would be a shame to see the whole thing reduced to ash. You might look at it in a month or two and see something lurking in the unfilled spaces that ties it all together.
Thank you for the input. You have very valid points . I know if I put it away it will never get. Worked on again like this one
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Did this one back in 2004 and it just lives in my portfolio bag. Now I look it like why did I do the kidneys so fuckin huge and have less then zero interest in it.
 

robot.logik

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Thank you for the input. You have very valid points . I know if I put it away it will never get. Worked on again like this one
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Did this one back in 2004 and it just lives in my portfolio bag. Now I look it like why did I do the kidneys so fuckin huge and have less then zero interest in it.
This is completely blowing my mind. And your Freddy drawing is great. There is a freedom and confidence I see in your work that I have been lacking for a long time, I suppose this builds slowly over time.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed in the thread previously, but do you find the strain you vape/smoke to have an effect on thinking and/or creativity and focus?
I have not tried many different strains, but I am curious to see what you guys think. I know set and setting, method of ingestion, blood sugar level, etc. also play a huge role, but let me know your thoughts on this.:leaf:

Also, when/why did you start putting the dates like this on your work? I used to do this when I was finishing a drawing in one day, just to document what the result of that smoke session was. I continued doing this even if a drawing took several days/sessions, but lately I have given up signing/dating my work. I haven't seen this on too many other people's work, just wondering.

Also curious about the pencils you use and your smudge prevention techniques. I have ruined drawings from graphite smudges. I mostly use watercolor paper and the slightest bit of sweat from my hands will permanently soak the graphite into the paper.

Thanks and keep up the great work! 8)
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Thanks Robot.Logic! :-P

Sometimes i do notice some strains kick up the creative juices a notch but i honestly don't pay much attention to which strains do what to me during art work. I used to pay more attention to how different strains effect me differently and i used to document smoke reports and what not,, I have tried a hundred different strains and its been fun. You should dabble and try them all and see what works best for you. At this point with all the inbreeding and shit its just a bit much to keep track anymore for me. i just look for the most potent hybrids and indicas. Sativas are ok once and while but i much prefer heavy headed stoney stoned feeling. The Chem dawg CO2 oil i just finished was fantastic. I got this new flower i smoked today that is wonderful as well.. That one I cant even remember the name, a local strain , i picked out for its bag appeal , real nice hard chunky buds and intoxicating smell and it was a hybrid and came recommended. bongsmilie

If you can please take a photo of your buds I would like to see what you are smoking .

I have been putting dates on my work for as long as i can remember and glad i do so that i can see my progress through the years and reflect on where and what i was into at the time.

I use mostly 2B, 2H, 3H, brands Prismacolor, Staedtler, Tombow and .03, .05. .07 Pentel Graphgear 800's.

Can you please tell me again what that pencil sharpener thing and pencil you were working with are.. ?


For smudge i just place a folded piece of paper under my drawing hand as I move across drawn areas to reduce the smudging of my hand. That works pretty well. It still smudges a little but i dont mind a minor smudge effect, and sometimes it can be a wonderful thing, because i like a heavy graphite look it helps with that. If i dont want the smudge i have my erasers. Stadtler and Tombo Mono zero 2.5 x 5 small head pen like eraser, great for in between tight lines.
Try not to touch the paper with your hands due to oils.

right now I only use Bristol paper. Totally stoked i just got a new Bristol 9 x 12 in sketch book. THis vellum bristol is really nice.

Thanks for stopping by its always a pleasure chatting with you!! :peace:
 

robot.logik

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Thanks Robot.Logic! :-P

Sometimes i do notice some strains kick up the creative juices a notch but i honestly don't pay much attention to which strains do what to me during art work. I used to pay more attention to how different strains effect me differently and i used to document smoke reports and what not,, I have tried a hundred different strains and its been fun. You should dabble and try them all and see what works best for you. At this point with all the inbreeding and shit its just a bit much to keep track anymore for me. i just look for the most potent hybrids and indicas. Sativas are ok once and while but i much prefer heavy headed stoney stoned feeling. The Chem dawg CO2 oil i just finished was fantastic. I got this new flower i smoked today that is wonderful as well.. That one I cant even remember the name, a local strain , i picked out for its bag appeal , real nice hard chunky buds and intoxicating smell and it was a hybrid and came recommended. bongsmilie

If you can please take a photo of your buds I would like to see what you are smoking .

I have been putting dates on my work for as long as i can remember and glad i do so that i can see my progress through the years and reflect on where and what i was into at the time.

I use mostly 2B, 2H, 3H, brands Prismacolor, Staedtler, Tombow and .03, .05. .07 Pentel Graphgear 800's.

Can you please tell me again what that pencil sharpener thing and pencil you were working with are.. ?


For smudge i just place a folded piece of paper under my drawing hand as I move across drawn areas to reduce the smudging of my hand. That works pretty well. It still smudges a little but i dont mind a minor smudge effect, and sometimes it can be a wonderful thing, because i like a heavy graphite look it helps with that. If i dont want the smudge i have my erasers. Stadtler and Tombo Mono zero 2.5 x 5 small head pen like eraser, great for in between tight lines.
Try not to touch the paper with your hands due to oils.

right now I only use Bristol paper. Totally stoked i just got a new Bristol 9 x 12 in sketch book. THis vellum bristol is really nice.

Thanks for stopping by its always a pleasure chatting with you!! :peace:
Thank you!!

I will definitely try more strains. I have only bought from my guy twice, as he only sells zips and this lasts me quite a while. Here are the two strains I have right now.
He said this one called called Berry White:

It's quite sticky and resinous and the nugs feel heavier and dense, there were some huge ones in the packet I got, but it smells a bit different than regular weed, it smells more like mango and cardamom and smells like reese's peanut butter cups when burned. Its weird, but maybe its just me.

This one he called Deadhead OG, smells AMAZING! Its much drier than the last, but that is probably the result of curing. This stuff is very strong, its supposed to be a sativa dominant hybrid, makes me a bit anxious if I take a bong rip of this straight. I like using this in my dry herb vape or smoked with a bit of AVB.


Never tried concentrates, although my guy does offer them, he is a CO2 oil guy himself, and a gram of oil/crumble/shatter/wax is cheaper than the zip of flower, so I might need to try this. :)

I will have to look up that eraser, I often have problems with erasing very tiny areas, so I have been using this:



Have you ever used something called a tortillion or blending stump? When I was first learning to draw with pencil, I discovered these, and I think you might like them, check them out. Its basically a tightly rolled up piece of paper that helps you blend different pencil grades together. You can clean them by using sandpaper.

And the pencil and sharpener I was using on the live stream was this:


I think the pencil part is just called a lead holder. The sharpener is kind of like a circular grinder, it can get the lead pretty sharp, but I am so heavy handed, I have to keep sharpening. Doesn't help that the paper I use is so heavy as well, it feels like drawing with mush sometimes, but that paper takes ink really well, so I love it. I love Bristol for pencil as well, it can take a lot of abuse, but it curls when I use india ink :(
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Girl: "When I asked for HEAD this is NOT what I had in mind, SIGH......"
Very funny Screwy Louie! You have quite an imagination . I am loving that book. Most of the book had women decapating men's heads and the suttle expressions on their faces are priceless. It's quite easy to imagine what they just might be thinking about the man they just decapated and why they got decapitated . I'm studying the book everyday so that one day I will be able to draw a great decapatation scene .
My last marriage?!
Awe sorry to hear things didn't work out . But it sounds like you found a much more suitable partner now who makes you happy! I hope you have a wonderful holiday and you get all the toys and monsters you have been wanting!! Be sure to stop by and let me see all the great gifts you get!! :hug::peace::weed:
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Thank you!!

I will definitely try more strains. I have only bought from my guy twice, as he only sells zips and this lasts me quite a while. Here are the two strains I have right now.
He said this one called called Berry White:

It's quite sticky and resinous and the nugs feel heavier and dense, there were some huge ones in the packet I got, but it smells a bit different than regular weed, it smells more like mango and cardamom and smells like reese's peanut butter cups when burned. Its weird, but maybe its just me.

This one he called Deadhead OG, smells AMAZING! Its much drier than the last, but that is probably the result of curing. This stuff is very strong, its supposed to be a sativa dominant hybrid, makes me a bit anxious if I take a bong rip of this straight. I like using this in my dry herb vape or smoked with a bit of AVB.


Never tried concentrates, although my guy does offer them, he is a CO2 oil guy himself, and a gram of oil/crumble/shatter/wax is cheaper than the zip of flower, so I might need to try this. :)

I will have to look up that eraser, I often have problems with erasing very tiny areas, so I have been using this:



Have you ever used something called a tortillion or blending stump? When I was first learning to draw with pencil, I discovered these, and I think you might like them, check them out. Its basically a tightly rolled up piece of paper that helps you blend different pencil grades together. You can clean them by using sandpaper.

And the pencil and sharpener I was using on the live stream was this:


I think the pencil part is just called a lead holder. The sharpener is kind of like a circular grinder, it can get the lead pretty sharp, but I am so heavy handed, I have to keep sharpening. Doesn't help that the paper I use is so heavy as well, it feels like drawing with mush sometimes, but that paper takes ink really well, so I love it. I love Bristol for pencil as well, it can take a lot of abuse, but it curls when I use india ink :(
Very nice lookin buds Robot.Logic!i like the dense look of the Berry White. This is a picture of the nugs I'm smoking right now.

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At the recreational store they put theses labels on . If you do start up on concentrated be aware that your tolerance will go up very fast and you will plateau eventually. I was just vaping CO2 oils for about 4 months but am going back to flower now and actually liking it better again. When I was getting to the bottom of my co2 cartridge I was getting terrible headaches. I think the oil goes bad after a while.

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The thing about the co2 pen it's just so bloody convenient!! No lighter. No prep. Just grab the pen and suck and your high. Take it every where anywhere . So nice, portable, concealable and Vape don't smell like weed. Shit man you could take it to work and do it in the bathroom.

I still need to get a dabbing rig and get into shatter. I had a Volcano Vaporizor for years but got sick of grinding and sucking out of that balloon . Plus you use a shit load of weed up to fill the chamber and since I am not growing anymore it's not worth it.

I am not sure I have used those blending devices you mention but I'm heading to the art store now to check them out and see about that pencil and pencil sharpener you have. That looks pretty slick. Thanks for posting all the pictures and the helpful advice!
 
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