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northeastmarco

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Im new here I'm normally on IC mag but ive been looking to sww if anybodys had the same issues with the cube as me. It seems you have. I popped 5 cube seeds 4 weeks ago there no more than 10 cm tall and two are showing serious male reproductive organs far too earlyView attachment 3859763 I run my veg room at 20/4 and I've got 2 lots of other seedlings with no issues.
What ever happened? Still going?
 

Bigdaddy212

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I do DWC use the clay pebbles , cobs with far reds for a faster finish and I ran the gas lantern method/routine with this set up for the first time and had no problems will run that from now in veg I'm running a scrog for the first time with sweet tooth star purpil and grand daddy purple and I'm convinced 4 days into flip that its the only way to go I'm hooked.
 
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Bigdaddy212

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Mine should have shipped but they didn't count my 15% off so i'm kind of being a dick till they get that shit lowered lol. 300 for seeds shit every dollar off counts to that end bottom $.

yo BD what medium you going to use?
Man I hear you that is why I order 1 or 2 at a time I just have a hard time paying that much for seeds, I've got an order sheet from Bog seeds and I think I'm going to give them a try nice prices and seems to have his stuff in order.
 

Nugteq

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Man I hear you that is why I order 1 or 2 at a time I just have a hard time paying that much for seeds, I've got an order sheet from Bog seeds and I think I'm going to give them a try nice prices and seems to have his stuff in order.
Seems like that lifesaver and sweet cindy from bog and alien strains are fast and fat. whats not to like? lmk how those go may try them on next one. i'm a newbie grower so just messing around with different strains trying to lock in my strains for blastin and squishing. first time running coco DTW 40% perlite flora series cal mag epson lucas formula w/ sea green root stimulators 1x mo super croppin on tables and may try scrog for first time. going air cooled in series 3400w flower room 800w veg room. first time dtw and looking to build a top drip manifold soon. so lot to learn! whats gas lantern method?
 

Bigdaddy212

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Seems like that lifesaver and sweet cindy from bog and alien strains are fast and fat. whats not to like? lmk how those go may try them on next one. i'm a newbie grower so just messing around with different strains trying to lock in my strains for blastin and squishing. first time running coco DTW 40% perlite flora series cal mag epson lucas formula w/ sea green root stimulators 1x mo super croppin on tables and may try scrog for first time. going air cooled in series 3400w flower room 800w veg room. first time dtw and looking to build a top drip manifold soon. so lot to learn! whats gas lantern method?
Damn 3400 flower will get you monsters I only have 12 cobs running with 240-1750's with Flora series and Gas lantern method is where you run the lights in veg for 12 hours on off for 5.5 hours and then 1 hour on again then 5.5 hours off. I had not one problem trying this method for the first time. its to save electricity and I flower with 11 hours on. I think I going to go with Blue Moon Rocks, Bogglegum, LSD, Life Star, Sour Strawberry, and sweet and sour cindy. I like the speed on the sweet tooth and I had c99 way back in the day so it will be interesting to see how that works out.
 

Nugteq

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Damn 3400 flower will get you monsters I only have 12 cobs running with 240-1750's with Flora series and Gas lantern method is where you run the lights in veg for 12 hours on off for 5.5 hours and then 1 hour on again then 5.5 hours off. I had not one problem trying this method for the first time. its to save electricity and I flower with 11 hours on. I think I going to go with Blue Moon Rocks, Bogglegum, LSD, Life Star, Sour Strawberry, and sweet and sour cindy. I like the speed on the sweet tooth and I had c99 way back in the day so it will be interesting to see how that works out.
damn. you think 24hrs veg is overkill? maybe i should try 20hrs...gonna have to do some research on that gas lantern method. lower electricity bill always nice. you got pics up of those bog strains? they seem like winners. no experience with any of them tho
 

Bigdaddy212

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24 hours veg is over kill you don't give the plant time to break down the sugar it produces I know for a fact for me 24 hours on was not good for my plants especially with seedlings. 18 on 6 off is standard a lot of people I hear are running 6 on 2 off 3x a day and the results are great. Makes sense the more the lights are on the more sugar is produced. But when you leave the lights on 24/7 plants breakdown the sugar at a much lower rate. Now for me I just tried the GLM/GLR for the first time and there are plenty of people who like it and plenty that don't. I can say my screen filled in real good and I will see how the stretch goes I'm on day 5 now so stretch for me is over in 21 days And I want to save some of my electricity bill cause of multiply rooms and I want to set up a tent for breeding
 

Nugteq

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will go down to 20 let them adjust then go 18/6 for sure now. whats GLM/GLR? working with 8ft ceilings so ya stretch always concern as well. once this perpetual gets smoothed out (still trying to figure best way for time how to do that with 3 rooms) a tent would be perfect as well for all my mamas in 3rd room. just don't want to get rid of any. lol. well just got notice in email. got a certain special delivery waiting for me in my mailbox at home. Probably just start trap star and hold up on the blue steel and kimbo. got too many varieties already veggin
 

eastcoastled

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damn. you think 24hrs veg is overkill? maybe i should try 20hrs...gonna have to do some research on that gas lantern method. lower electricity bill always nice. you got pics up of those bog strains? they seem like winners. no experience with any of them tho
In my experience, you will get faster veg growth with 24 hrs of light. For the way i do things, the veg growth was too fast, I would have to take my clones the day of the 12/12 flip. If the clone didn't make it, i would possibly lose that strain if i wasn't on top of it, once they are in flower my clone survival rate drops. With 18/6, i can preserve genetics much better, as i have multiple chances if there is an issue. Also, they will show sex much faster under 18/6, so if you like to pheno hunt, this is a benefit. Last, but certainly not least, you will get tighter node spacing on 24/7. The way i run, this is a bad thing b/c i get more waste since there is too much in the way for the lowers to get light. I actually get better yields with node spacing that isn't as tight. All you have to do is run a GG4 dominant plant to realize tighter nodes aren't always better for yields.
 

Nugteq

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In my experience, you will get faster veg growth with 24 hrs of light. For the way i do things, the veg growth was too fast, I would have to take my clones the day of the 12/12 flip. If the clone didn't make it, i would possibly lose that strain if i wasn't on top of it, once they are in flower my clone survival rate drops. With 18/6, i can preserve genetics much better, as i have multiple chances if there is an issue. Also, they will show sex much faster under 18/6, so if you like to pheno hunt, this is a benefit. Last, but certainly not least, you will get tighter node spacing on 24/7. The way i run, this is a bad thing b/c i get more waste since there is too much in the way for the lowers to get light. I actually get better yields with node spacing that isn't as tight. All you have to do is run a GG4 dominant plant to realize tighter nodes aren't always better for yields.
thanks for sharing some of your experience. failed to consider clones not surviving for new strains. and i do very much enjoy pheno hunting with my limited experience its been very fulfilling for my scientific mind to learn about each plants genetics. i noticed several strains are not responding well to 24/7. i did not know that sex shows more often in an 18/6 setup. thanx man
 

johny22

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Wats up peeps, One of my males started throwing pistils i had him jammed in a closet with t5s and grew into the light, it was definitely enviorment heat that caused it, wat i wanna know is the pollen i collected before it hermied still good? And wat about the pollen after it hermied?
 
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