Sessions: I'm Shutting Down Colorado

[PCXV]

When your a minimum wage worker, yes.

I don't know anyone who advises trying to live off minimum wage.

It's not just that, it's the people just above min. wage that min. wage hypothetically effects. If you want I can google some numbers, or you can do it yourself. Min. wage jobs are like 4% of the workforce, but just above it, not enough to ever get ahead is like 50% or worse by some measures. The middle class has been split into upper and lower class. What do you think of finding ways to change the lower class or upper class paradigm to a middle-class or upper class with heavily mitigated lower class paradigm? What are the roadblocks to making that happen?

 

[PCXV]

Minimum wage jobs are usually starter jobs then you advance from their. I have worked some pretty shitty jobs sometimes you have to do what you have to do. The last person I worked with was super lazy. He kept that job for six months, I had to do twice the work because of him. Finally he got fired and within seven months he found a pretty good job for $22 an hour. The first day he was late the second day he was found sleeping the third day he was sleeping again and was fired. Some people just don't DESERVE good jobs.

You said it, "some people." What about everyone else that is impoverished by the circumstance of our economy and job market? Do you think there are enough good paying jobs for everyone if they put in the effort? Honest question.

 

[Stroker]

You said it, "some people." What about everyone else that is impoverished by the circumstance of our economy and job market? Do you think there are enough good paying jobs for everyone if they put in the effort? Honest question.

I had to move from my home state to find a better job. I went from minimum wage job to a good union job. I am a hard worker,I show up on the time and people like to work with me. I have found in my job experience you can make it if you really try.

 

[ttystikk]

wasn't my intention to defend anyone, was just trying to point out that the 1% isn't really any happier than the other 99. i think people driven to aquire wealth are mentally ill, and should be treated that way. a compulsion is a compulsion, and it makes people forget what morals they had in the pursuit of that compulsion, just like a drug........

So let's treat the worst symptom by taking away their ability to wreck the economy for everyone else.

 

[ttystikk]

Surly you misunderstood what I wrote.

I'm not surly, I'm just not buying your line of reasoning.

I'm listening if you can elaborate.

 

[ttystikk]

I had to move from my home state to find a better job. I went from minimum wage job to a good union job. I am a hard worker,I show up on the time and people like to work with me. I have found in my job experience you can make it if you really try.

But you vote for Union busting Republicans.

This makes you at the very least a hypocrite.

 

[ttystikk]

Yes. Politicians do way more than take bribes. They're pedos, racists, bigots and a whole bunch of other things.

They can be pure evil, too.

Without corporate campaign cash, they're accountable to the People for all those things.

 

[Sir Napsalot]

I had to move from my home state to find a better job. I went from minimum wage job to a good union job. I am a hard worker,I show up on the time and people like to work with me. I have found in my job experience you can make it if you really try.

Some people "really try" their ass off and still fail despite their best effort.

To what would you attribute that to?

 

[PCXV]

I had to move from my home state to find a better job. I went from minimum wage job to a good union job. I am a hard worker,I show up on the time and people like to work with me. I have found in my job experience you can make it if you really try.

Thanks for sharing. Personally, I'm starting to look at all the work that could be done, maybe there is enough decent paying work if the labor market thins out. But I also look at distribution of wealth and it is alarming to see productivity so high but distribution so unequal. With so many people at or near insolvency (we are talking half of Americans and more looking forward), it's not hard to imagine some of the symptoms of an impoverished nation.

 

[ttystikk]

Some people "really try" their ass off and still fail despite their best effort.

To what would you attribute that to?

And, how about those who don't get a fair shake through no fault of their own?

 

[dandyrandy]

Yeah, like the drive to do better than minimum wage.

Drive is most people's problem...

 

[ttystikk]

Drive is most people's problem...

I disagree. Our country puts a lot of unnecessary roadblocks in the way of people's desire to get ahead, even with the willingness to work hard to achieve.

 

[schuylaar]

So, I predict 'tiny' to become the new infrastructure boost other than our (bridges/roads)..the demand for affordability and being able to call your own shots.

Builders will eventually catch on en masse..I see a few builds here and there with 'college' type housing of all studio apartments this will become the wave of the future.

Currently hotels have and are replicating fast..the Hilton line has intro'd new brands under their flag. The brands are 'Loft' 'Element' 'Curio' etc. designed specifically for long term or 'apartel' (apartment/hotel).

More and more will live the minimalistic lifestyle..not to be confused with frugal or cheap.

Thoughtfully chosen (usually the best money can buy) but not a slave to possessions.

We MUST work with what we have until we can effect a change.

Our bags and wallets speak rather loudly.

 

[blu3bird]

Drive is most people's problem...

Alot of people are really fucking lazy. They want shit handed to them without any effort on their part. A sense of entitlement is a major factor.

 

[ttystikk]

Alot of people are really fucking lazy. They want shit handed to them without any effort on their part. A sense of entitlement is a major factor.

You wanna talk about entitlements?

Let's kick America's corporations off our welfare rolls!

 

[fdd2blk]

Alot of people are really fucking lazy. They want shit handed to them without any effort on their part. A sense of entitlement is a major factor.

They've been led to believe, by the bleeding hearts, that they deserve it.

 

[blu3bird]

You wanna talk about entitlements?

Let's kick America's corporations off our welfare rolls!

You're 100% right on that, but I was talking about just the average person

 

[blu3bird]

They've been led to believe, by the bleeding hearts, that they deserve it.

Everybody deserves to get ahead in life and not struggle, but you have to earn it. Start at the bottom and work up, put in effort and hard work

 

[blu3bird]

And, how about those who don't get a fair shake through no fault of their own?

Damn, I didn't see this post


This is where "drive" comes into play. We live in America, the land of opportunity, where there's a will, there's a way. It can be hard as fuck at times, and you might have to make sacrifices, but if you have the desire to succeed and not get beat down by the system, anybody can get ahead.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Everybody deserves to get ahead in life and not struggle, but you have to earn it. Start at the bottom and work up, put in effort and hard work

And none of that means shit without opportunity.

And the opportunities today are virtually non existant compared to when I got out of school and could work at 15 different places.

Somebody has to hire you before you can 'start at the bottom'.