Million Dollar Question

londonfog

londonfog

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Padawanbater2 said:
I agree. I would feel the same way if I were black. The resentment is real, no doubt about it. But you have to understand, the overwhelming majority of white people in America today do not feel the same way our ancestors may have about black people. We don't support slavery, if it were up to us, slavery would never have existed. You must understand, you cannot hold the descendents of slave owners accountable for their actions. The only thing that will happen if you choose to is backlash. You can't call the descendants of slave owners 'racist' when they don't hold a racist bone in their body. Slavery happened in the past, before any of us were alive or cognizant of it. None of us, presently, agree with it. Those that do should be shunned and ostracized for it. But to designate those of use with differing political opinions 'racist', 'sexist', etc., diminishes the value those words hold. It's actually dangerous to the long term protection of said perspectives. You can only cry wolf so many times before people dismiss it.

Have you ever heard of MLK or Ghandi? Why are you so averse to nonviolent movements that have been proven to work? Why do you insist on sullying everyone who tries something you disagree with and painting those not on board as racists and traitors? Why the fuck aren't you actually interested in finding a solution to the problems you deem the most important? Let go of your ego
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I hold all America accountable now for institutional racism. Please tell me what do you do as an individual to battle institutionalize racism...or you do nothing because it does not affect you. Why are you so talking slavery when this conversation is about racism?

I don't cry wolf. I suggest you go back and search . If I call you out on some racist shit it is because you have done some racist shit

MLK and Gandhi took a hot one. Fuck that
 
666888

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To be a racist, first you need to be/feel superior to other species/races
That cuts out most if not all species/races except WHITEY and ?, couldn't think of anyone else to be honest
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Gquebed said:
Exactly. Googleis your friend. But each of those four have sub castes and each sub caste has sub castes. Thats the part wikipedia doesnt mention. But anyboy who has spent time with the locals in that region will tell you about it.

They will also tell you that the caste system isnt limited to hindus. Its all over the region...pakistan iran and on an on...
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again and for the last time...maybe.
We talking India. Stop trying to distract
Name the class/caste that has the darkest color and then name the one with the whitest...I will wait
 
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Gquebed

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@Fogdog @dagwood45431 @UncleBuck

You all have a Amerocentric point of view on racism. You only know it from an american point of view...salvery and back of the bus and so on.

But the rest of world knows racism has many faces. And i wonder if you guys are white and have ever experi2nced racism ypurselves?

Have you ever been deprived of food because you were white? While on a forced March through south Pakistan we didn't have enough food and I was the sole white guy and I didn't get any because i was white. I was also last in line...because if any predators were to strike the group they strike the last man in line.

In morroco i was beaten nearly to death simply because i was white and also thought to be American.

In Armenia i spent 4 months in prison because i was white.

Those were the worst instances. There were many more subtle discriminations.


But the point is... america is late to the racism party. But yall dont like being last or losing anything. And you all argue this point like you know what youre talking about. But you dont...you.only know racism the an Amerocentric point of view. And you dont want to know any other point of view...because America is great and the best and all that bullshit...which is why almost the entire planet despises you guys. Aside from the proclivity to bomb the shit out of 3rd world countries, which you cant beat in a war...

At what point do you wake the fuck up to the rest of the planet and realize youre nobody special? And your point of view is just one of about 250 on the planet? All of which are no more or less valid tban the others?
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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666888 said:
To be a racist, first you need to be/feel superior to other species/races
That cuts out most if not all species/races except WHITEY and ?, couldn't think of anyone else to be honest
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Well here is a perfect example of the Amerocentric point of view. The chinese think americans of all colours are stupid. They see them selves as superior to you all. And they have great fun in tormenting you all when you travel there....same just about verywhere else. Indians feel the same about americans...they see you as primitive humans/civilization...because theirs in 4000 years older than ypurs.

The Russians rob you guys evey chance they get. They brag about it to each other....

And so on.

You all have no idea how youre percieved throughout the planet...
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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londonfog said:
again and for the last time...maybe.
We talking India. Stop trying to distract
Name the class/caste that has the darkest color and then name the one with the whitest...I will wait
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Ya... look who wants to stop talking about it because you dont know anything except what google can tell you...
 
Fogdog

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Gquebed said:
@Fogdog @dagwood45431 @UncleBuck

You all have a Amerocentric point of view on racism. You only know it from an american point of view...salvery and back of the bus and so on.

But the rest of world knows racism has many faces. And i wonder if you guys are white and have ever experi2nced racism ypurselves?

Have you ever been deprived of food because you were white? While on a forced March through south Pakistan we didn't have enough food and I was the sole white guy and I didn't get any because i was white. I was also last in line...because if any predators were to strike the group they strike the last man in line.

In morroco i was beaten nearly to death simply because i was white and also thought to be American.

In Armenia i spent 4 months in prison because i was white.

Those were the worst instances. There were many more subtle discriminations.


But the point is... america is late to the racism party. But yall dont like being last or losing anything. And you all argue this point like you know what youre talking about. But you dont...you.only know racism the an Amerocentric point of view. And you dont want to know any other point of view...because America is great and the best and all that bullshit...which is why almost the entire planet despises you guys. Aside from the proclivity to bomb the shit out of 3rd world countries, which you cant beat in a war...

At what point do you wake the fuck up to the rest of the planet and realize youre nobody special? And your point of view is just one of about 250 on the planet? All of which are no more or less valid tban the others?
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I happen to live in the US and US racism is the problem I deal with.

My point of your weakness is borne out in your post. A person with the experience you claim could just laugh me off as a dweeb. Which, I admit I am. But you didn't in our earlier discussion. You lost your edge and started cussing me out. I thought that was strange because I had been civil the whole time..

And so I may concede that my viewpoint is parochial. I'm just skeptical of your claims. If you really are who you say, what does my opinion matter? And yet it does. Something doesn't add up. And it has nothing to do with world view of racism.

In the US, racism is a white man's disease.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Gquebed said:
Ya... look who wants to stop talking about it because you dont know anything except what google can tell you...
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WTF is up with these distractions.
You were asked a simple statement to backup your false information.
You said caste are divided according to color, so which caste is the darkest and which the whitest ?
Your lack of answer is very fucking telling. You can use Google if you like. Good luck
 
londonfog

londonfog

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Fogdog said:
I happen to live in the US and US racism is the problem I deal with.

My point of your weakness is borne out in your post. A person with the experience you claim could just laugh me off as a dweeb. Which, I admit I am. But you didn't in our earlier discussion. You lost your edge and started cussing me out. I thought that was strange because I had been civil the whole time..

And so I may concede that my viewpoint is parochial. I'm just skeptical of your claims. If you really are who you say, what does my opinion matter? And yet it does. Something doesn't add up. And it has nothing to do with world view of racism.

In the US, racism is a white man's disease.
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This dude is full of shit. His take on India tells it all
 
Gquebed

Gquebed

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Fogdog said:
I happen to live in the US and US racism is the problem I deal with.

My point of your weakness is borne out in your post. A person with the experience you claim could just laugh me off as a dweeb. Which, I admit I am. But you didn't in our earlier discussion. You lost your edge and started cussing me out. I thought that was strange because I had been civil the whole time..

And so I may concede that my viewpoint is parochial. I'm just skeptical of your claims. If you really are who you say, what does my opinion matter? And yet it does. Something doesn't add up. And it has nothing to do with world view of racism.

In the US, racism is a white man's disease.
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Your opinion doesnt matter. Neither does mine.

Im flattered that you think im somebody important just because i travelled a bit. You imply that in one breath and say you dont believe me in the next. What do i make of that?

Bottom line not any single one of us matter at all... what matters is us collectively.

After all of my travels i dont think of myself as a canadian or north american any more. I think of myself as a citizen of the world...which is what we all are.

And the sooner you yanks realize that the pride you have in for flag is obsolete the better for you and everyone. The same can be said for all the dickheads on the planet who blindly line up behind their flag to scream about how its the best.

That kind of thinking is where racism starts. And when you travel a bit that becomes easy to see...
 
CriticalCheeze

CriticalCheeze

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Gquebed said:
Your opinion doesnt matter. Neither does mine.

Im flattered that you think im somebody important just because i travelled a bit. You imply that in one breath and say you dont believe me in the next. What do i make of that?

Bottom line not any single one of us matter at all... what matters is us collectively.

After all of my travels i dont think of myself as a canadian or north american any more. I think of myself as a citizen of the world...which is what we all are.

And the sooner you yanks realize that the pride you have in for flag is obsolete the better for you and everyone. The same can be said for all the dickheads on the planet who blindly line up behind their flag to scream about how its the best.

That kind of thinking is where racism starts. And when you travel a bit that becomes easy to see...
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Yanks and Dickheads.
Lel. flea.
 
dagwood45431

dagwood45431

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Fogdog said:
You reek of weakness that I wouldn't attribute to a person with the experience you claim.

sorry story not believed.

Tell you what, make more sense when you try to say racism is because of economic issues and you will be believable.
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He certainly doesn't appear worldly, does he? He's a northern loon.
 
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