The justice system of St Louis

Fogdog

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During a high speed chase where officer Stockley was recorded as saying "going to kill this motherfucker, don’t you know it". Stockley claimed Anthony Smith reached for a gun as justification of the shooting. After he in fact did the deed he told his partner he was going to do, the gun "found" in the car only contained Stockley's DNA and not a trace of the dead man's, Anthony Lamar Smith. Also recorded and shown during court proceedings was video showing Stockley rummaging through the trunk of the police car before returning to now deceased Smith's car

Stockley was charged with 1st degree murder and waived the right to a trial, thereby leaving the decision to the judge, St. Louis Circuit Judge Timothy Wilson. Wilson ruled insufficient evidence.

Protests enter the third day.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41274065



 

st0wandgrow

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I'm wondering if those who would kick social justice warriors to the curb have the nerve to comment.
How can anyone make an argument opposing criminal justice reform, and a complete overhaul of the racist practices by police departments? It's pretty black and white (no pun intended).

I disagree with how some folks may go about it, but I'm in 100% agreeance that there is indeed a problem. Shit like this is shameful
 

Fogdog

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How can anyone make an argument opposing criminal justice reform, and a complete overhaul of the racist practices by police departments? It's pretty black and white (no pun intended).

I disagree with how some folks may go about it, but I'm in 100% agreeance that there is indeed a problem. Shit like this is shameful
I'm just waiting for one of our dreadfully closed minded Trump supporters to show up and call this all fake news.
 

st0wandgrow

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I'm just waiting for one of our dreadfully closed minded Trump supporters to show up and call this all fake news.
You could be waiting a while. There is no argument to be made when cops are choking people to death for selling cigarettes, and gunning down unarmed people in the back while they are running away.

This is a criminal justice problem. Until the laws are changed, and a few of these fuckers are convicted, nothing will change.
 

Fogdog

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You could be waiting a while. There is no argument to be made when cops are choking people to death for selling cigarettes, and gunning down unarmed people in the back while they are running away.

This is a criminal justice problem. Until the laws are changed, and a few of these fuckers are convicted, nothing will change.
The laws are in place. A white guy in that car doesn't get killed. We just want them to stop killing people they are supposed to protect. The problem lies in systemic racism embedded in our justice system.
 

Justin-case

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You could be waiting a while. There is no argument to be made when cops are choking people to death for selling cigarettes, and gunning down unarmed people in the back while they are running away.

This is a criminal justice problem. Until the laws are changed, and a few of these fuckers are convicted, nothing will change.
Bl0wyourvote,

Too bad there isn't a doj in place that would prosecute this pig in federal court. Elections have consequences. If you really care about social justice issues, start voting like it, Thank you.

America
 

Abiqua

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All kinds of people get shot by the gangsters, in fact, indigenous people per capita account for the largest percentage of minority groups that are shot and killed by police. It is never right and it aint just a couple of races either......

2017
http://killedbypolice.net/
 

Padawanbater2

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I'm wondering if those who would kick social justice warriors to the curb have the nerve to comment.
  • to too many of today's liberals, protecting 'feelings' has become more important than preserving rights
  • If liberals want to win back the white house, there are some very important things that must be done;
  • In 2018 and 2020, liberals need a 'progressive TEA-Party' that runs populist candidates modeled after Bernie Sanders that can steal primaries from establishment democrats. We have to get them out of there! This political party cannot survive if it's loaded up with corporatist shills. The democrats are supposed to be an alternative to that and right now they're not. The democratic party must become a super-organism that survives on the support of everyday people and eshoo's money from major business interests. Liberals must create and sell a bold vision of America... built around specific policies like making higher education a right to those with the academic acumen to earn it. Like making sure people are employed and that they're being fairly compensated for their work. Like protecting the interests of everyday people above the interests of mega rich multinational corporations. Like fixing our roads and bridges. Like building a national high speed rail system. Like ending our dependence on fossil fuels. Like working on ways to reduce or reverse the CO2 saturation that is harming our environment.
  • Kick SJWs to the curb. When ordinary people see liberals wasting our time arguing about pronouns, and turning racial and sexual differences into a grievance culture victim badge for every shitty little cry bully to polish with their own tears, Americans correctly reject the notion that that's what America needs. Liberals need to stop with this culture of coddling weakness and get real. We don't need a bunch of emotionally fragile screeching morons. They're an absolute drain on the liberal platform described earlier. Because according to them, creating a good economy and making sure everyone has healthcare and education is not as important as making sure no one is ever offended by anything that anyone ever says at any time.
  • If we want to win, we need tough liberals who are self assured and put forth good ideas with confidence and who are smart enough to defend those ideas in both a pragmatic and a philosophical way. Our current liberal climate of "there there, have a shoulder to cry on" needs to die, needs to go away.
  • If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
I'm wondering if those who would kick social justice warriors to the curb have the nerve to comment.
  • to too many of today's liberals, protecting 'feelings' has become more important than preserving rights
  • If liberals want to win back the white house, there are some very important things that must be done;
  • In 2018 and 2020, liberals need a 'progressive TEA-Party' that runs populist candidates modeled after Bernie Sanders that can steal primaries from establishment democrats. We have to get them out of there! This political party cannot survive if it's loaded up with corporatist shills. The democrats are supposed to be an alternative to that and right now they're not. The democratic party must become a super-organism that survives on the support of everyday people and eshoo's money from major business interests. Liberals must create and sell a bold vision of America... built around specific policies like making higher education a right to those with the academic acumen to earn it. Like making sure people are employed and that they're being fairly compensated for their work. Like protecting the interests of everyday people above the interests of mega rich multinational corporations. Like fixing our roads and bridges. Like building a national high speed rail system. Like ending our dependence on fossil fuels. Like working on ways to reduce or reverse the CO2 saturation that is harming our environment.
  • Kick SJWs to the curb. When ordinary people see liberals wasting our time arguing about pronouns, and turning racial and sexual differences into a grievance culture victim badge for every shitty little cry bully to polish with their own tears, Americans correctly reject the notion that that's what America needs. Liberals need to stop with this culture of coddling weakness and get real. We don't need a bunch of emotionally fragile screeching morons. They're an absolute drain on the liberal platform described earlier. Because according to them, creating a good economy and making sure everyone has healthcare and education is not as important as making sure no one is ever offended by anything that anyone ever says at any time.
  • If we want to win, we need tough liberals who are self assured and put forth good ideas with confidence and who are smart enough to defend those ideas in both a pragmatic and a philosophical way. Our current liberal climate of "there there, have a shoulder to cry on" needs to die, needs to go away.
  • If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
 

Fogdog

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  • to too many of today's liberals, protecting 'feelings' has become more important than preserving rights
  • If liberals want to win back the white house, there are some very important things that must be done;
  • In 2018 and 2020, liberals need a 'progressive TEA-Party' that runs populist candidates modeled after Bernie Sanders that can steal primaries from establishment democrats. We have to get them out of there! This political party cannot survive if it's loaded up with corporatist shills. The democrats are supposed to be an alternative to that and right now they're not. The democratic party must become a super-organism that survives on the support of everyday people and eshoo's money from major business interests. Liberals must create and sell a bold vision of America... built around specific policies like making higher education a right to those with the academic acumen to earn it. Like making sure people are employed and that they're being fairly compensated for their work. Like protecting the interests of everyday people above the interests of mega rich multinational corporations. Like fixing our roads and bridges. Like building a national high speed rail system. Like ending our dependence on fossil fuels. Like working on ways to reduce or reverse the CO2 saturation that is harming our environment.
  • Kick SJWs to the curb. When ordinary people see liberals wasting our time arguing about pronouns, and turning racial and sexual differences into a grievance culture victim badge for every shitty little cry bully to polish with their own tears, Americans correctly reject the notion that that's what America needs. Liberals need to stop with this culture of coddling weakness and get real. We don't need a bunch of emotionally fragile screeching morons. They're an absolute drain on the liberal platform described earlier. Because according to them, creating a good economy and making sure everyone has healthcare and education is not as important as making sure no one is ever offended by anything that anyone ever says at any time.
  • If we want to win, we need tough liberals who are self assured and put forth good ideas with confidence and who are smart enough to defend those ideas in both a pragmatic and a philosophical way. Our current liberal climate of "there there, have a shoulder to cry on" needs to die, needs to go away.
  • If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
There is a progression that describes how to marginalize minority groups that begins with making the common gratuitous insult acceptable. Another step is to exclude groups, or end identity politics which is another aspect of the "kick sjw to the curb" argument that you didn't mention but have fully subscribed to in an earlier rant. I'm not saying all Sanders supporters would subscribe to it but you sure do. You'd even commit sjw to mental institutions for reprogramming.

You, Sanders and Trump completely miss what political correctness is. Politically correct speech is simply avoiding gratuitous insults. We only need to look at recent headlines to see why. Once gratuitous insult becomes acceptable, Donald Trump's proud boys have shown us what happens next. Racists and bigots take the next step, which is to physically insult the fascist's scapegoat.

Black Lives Matter is an example of "identity politics" that specifically address systemic racism in the police force that causes every African American parent to be afraid every time their kid drives off in a car. Not to mention the beatings and lives taken by racist cops. People in the BLM movement have the right to object to the problem of cops injuring and killing people because of their skin color. They aren't fragile either. They aren't about to be kicked to the curb. Not without a real fight.

Also, you can forget their support during the Democratic Primary in 2020. Sanders hasn't said a word about the St Louis murder by cop or the protest this weekend. Not a peep. I won't speculate why Sanders hasn't said anything but he's not doing anything to change people's minds about him regarding his lukewarm at best attitude towards civil rights issues.

This idea that sjw is somehow a sign of weakness and must end is a white liberal attempt at whitewashing the civil rights movement. As if racism is ended and objecting to it is a sign of weakness, when enduring it takes more strength than the average white liberal will ever know.
 

Fogdog

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They straight offed this pregnant lady, neither black or white or in St. Louis.

Female from the Muckleshoot Tribe but in 2016 Killed by the Bacon, also probably doesn't count in equivicating some kind of false premise towards St Louis and racial/justice consequences....amirite?


Cops Fatally Shoot Pregnant Native American Woman During 'Wellness Check'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/renee-davis-police-shooting_us_580f9747e4b0a03911ef14ec
Tut, tut, Abiqua. Your concern for all of humanity comes to the fore whenever a the issue of cops murdering black men for no good reason is mentioned. It would make more sense if you had this concern other times as well.
 

Justin-case

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  • If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
I'm still trying to figure out which quote to pair this with. The one where you tell me you don't care what I notice, or the one where you tell dogger he's being intellectually dishonest.
 

Fogdog

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I'm still trying to figure out which quote to pair this with. The one where you tell me you don't care what I notice, or the one where you tell dogger he's being intellectually dishonest.
yeah

That's an incredible thing to say, isn't it? As if because somebody objects to being called ni>>er or fa>>>t or c?nt to their face then they should check in to the local reprogramming station to adjust their servitude setting.
  • If someone is so emotionally fragile that they psychologically implode when someone disagrees with them, they don't need a political movement to unite them all under one banner, they need mental health care to teach them how to be tolerant of people who are different.
 
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