pine taste?

dabby duck

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Trainwreck crosses. Lot of TGA stuff has a piney smell. Never thought of OG's as being "piney," they are much more complex than that. I've found lots of pine tasting phenos over the years but they never really kept my interest.
OG's around the early 2000's were definitely different than today....they have gotten sweeter and more floral like skunk....but they were very abrasive and hashy when they 1st started leaking out as production....
 

kermit2692

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Delahaze.. You're welcome.

Grew one and it was spot on juniper/pine
Also ran five whiteberry and one of those was similar... Both are Paradise so that's where I'd be looking.
 

too larry

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disclaimer I may be chasing a unicorn. I had it a few times, years and years ago, it was in my uncles stash, I have traced back to some of his growers but not the one who grew this stuff.
ever had bud that you just wish you can grow? this is one of them for me.
I know pine is one of the most abundant terpenes in cannabis.
I will probably just buy me some seeds again for Christmas and get poppin, find the pheno a make some lady seeds.
btw @chemphlegm I accept your challenge, bring the bud, I got papers and munchies.
There was a local strain here in NW Florida that was piney as hell. It sold as That Pine Tree Smelling Weed, lol. This was late 80's-early 90's.
 

too larry

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So much more inventive on the names these days.
I am still building my list everyone. Thank you.
I was joking. Back then most weed didn't have names and most of the growers were red necks. You just called the local by the growers name and maybe a descriptive if he ran more than one strain, like Carlos' Cream or Jack's Purple.

But then when Northern Lights and Afghani burst on the scene, that is what everyone claimed to be growing. In fact the two parent strains of my old school Jack Carlos Cross crosses where sold as NL and Af, even though they are both Sativa leaning.
 

oswizzle

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OG's around the early 2000's were definitely different than today....they have gotten sweeter and more floral like skunk....but they were very abrasive and hashy when they 1st started leaking out as production....
When Cali Con Swerve and Company tried to make their own OGz they ruined the Gene pool.... They mixed in Afi #1 in the OG genes to make a male to cross back with.... in an attempt to make OG in a pure seed form they made more fakes and dilluted crap...

The real deal old school OGz are still the best genetics ... Elite in all categories ... potency, terps, YIELD yes Yield...

Alot of the original cuts got sick and most people dont know how to revive these magical strains
 

too larry

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When Cali Con Swerve and Company tried to make their own OGz they ruined the Gene pool.... They mixed in Afi #1 in the OG genes to make a male to cross back with.... in an attempt to make OG in a pure seed form they made more fakes and dilluted crap...

The real deal old school OGz are still the best genetics ... Elite in all categories ... potency, terps, YIELD yes Yield...

Alot of the original cuts got sick and most people dont know how to revive these magical strains
Life gets in the way, even for big name breeders. To keep a strain the same, you have to take fresh cuts of the mother and father plant a couple three times a year. Lose either one of them, and the strain is gone. But rather than say, "hey, I lost the mom", they will try popping lots of seeds and finding the same pheno, and keep the cash flowing.

Just because breeders have big names, do not mean they live in fine houses and drive fancy cars. In fact most of the breeders I know have to turn product just to make ends meet. Many of them rent, so there is always the risk of having to move your whole operation when your lease is up. Plants die, and sometimes clones don't root. That is how strains get to be shell of their old self. Because they are not the same strains.
 

dabby duck

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I have seen very few "breeders" in cannabis, at least in the scientific sense....thats a big part of the problem imho

Yes, legality is one way a strain is lost into the ether, but imho its laziness from people who call themselves "breeders"

again I guess it boils down to what is considered an actual breeder, not to take shots, but most if not all are glorified pollen chucks these days....working a line is tough in the era of plant counts, but the old tymers did it with NO counts, lol and where would we be without our base?

That same base is going to be around for the next generation too in 20 years imho, mainly because we stopped working stuff....I hope I am wrong and we have a revival, but strain hunting is a lost art.....The "collection" itself is "better" seems to be the forte these days....possibilities instead of action and that to me is the bigger cause of strain loss......

:joint: :joint:
 

too larry

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I have seen very few "breeders" in cannabis, at least in the scientific sense....thats a big part of the problem imho

Yes, legality is one way a strain is lost into the ether, but imho its laziness from people who call themselves "breeders"

again I guess it boils down to what is considered an actual breeder, not to take shots, but most if not all are glorified pollen chucks these days....working a line is tough in the era of plant counts, but the old tymers did it with NO counts, lol and where would we be without our base?

That same base is going to be around for the next generation too in 20 years imho, mainly because we stopped working stuff....I hope I am wrong and we have a revival, but strain hunting is a lost art.....The "collection" itself is "better" seems to be the forte these days....possibilities instead of action and that to me is the bigger cause of strain loss......

:joint: :joint:
I know three breeders, two of which are known names. {at least on RIU} They take lots of care in their crosses. Lots of searching and testing. Popping 100 seeds to get 1 keeper is the norm, not the exception.

I agree there are a lot of pollen chuckers, of which I am one. But there are also thousands of gentleman breeders. My other breeder friend is in this group. They don't sell seeds, or if they do, the price is just a token. The last ones I paid for were 15 bucks a 10 pack. Most give their seeds to friends at no cost, not even postage. I feel breeding is at an all time high. But money grubbing guys on IG can change your perspective. There are more out there that are making good crosses, but never post to social media.
 

dabby duck

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We are seed makers.....but making seed isn't what makes me not call them breeders.....It is the science of breeding itself...for instance, I breed out of necessity now....I am above 45N and 99% of seed on the market, does terrible in this local climate....that's one aspect of breeding imo....adjusting for that...:peace:
 

eastcoastled

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The three topdawg strains I have grown all have a sweet pine taste. Star dawg IX, underdawg d, and sour dawg. That was one of the things that disappointed me most, roll the finished product up, and it's,almost like they are all the same....almost. None had any pine smell when in the bag though,all smelled foul with hints of diesel. They all tasted very very similar when smoked though......8 phenos combined of the three I mentioned.
 

too larry

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We are seed makers.....but making seed isn't what makes me not call them breeders.....It is the science of breeding itself...for instance, I breed out of necessity now....I am above 45N and 99% of seed on the market, does terrible in this local climate....that's one aspect of breeding imo....adjusting for that...:peace:
Getaway Mountain breeds for the wet, cold Maine weather. Crossing Semiautomatics with photos trying to get the right mix of early and mold resistance. He has been working on them for years. You might want to look at some of his strains.
 

SPLFreak808

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Not in any specific order, just a few off the top of my head if i remember correctly.

Train wreck
Afghoo
Pineapple express
Jack herror
Pt kush
GG4
 

vilify

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Had a Hindu Kush that fit the bill. Didnt test off the charts for THC or anything but everyone would buy that from me over anything else I had.
 

Sir72

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Ron Swanson kush has super strong pine smell, so did hso critical jack and a sativa from gage green genetics. There's plenty with pine smell out there
 
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