Labor Unions starting a third party

ttystikk

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The ground is shifting beneath the Democratic Party's feet; Labor Unions have said that the Democratic party has given them nothing, even when they had all the branches of government.

'continuing to follow the same model, while expecting a different result, is not a solution'.

Hmmmmmm. That sounds strangely familiar.

Together with Donna Brasile's revaluations about Clinton campaign control of the DNC during the primary, this marks a turning point in American politics.
 

Grandpapy

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It's not about ME, I am only a small part of the greater whole, selfish asshole.
Selfishness could be hereditary.

"Only five states do not allow collective bargaining for educators, effectively banning teachers unions. Those states and their SAT/ACT rankings are as follows:
South Carolina – 50th
North Carolina – 49th
Georgia – 48th
Texas – 47th
Virginia – 44th"


China is investing in their population as they become more extroverted.
Looks like Communism is fooling the Capitalist.
 

Rob Roy

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The problem with using the term "bargaining" when referring to teachers unions is it's inaccurate in a literal sense.

The Unions don't actually bargain with the individual people who are forced to pay them.

The default assumption being that the individuals who make the payments to teachers can be subjugated to an alleged majority decision and it can still be called a "bargain" In other words when duress of the individual payor is ignored in a negotiating process, the results of the "bargaining" aren't produced thru consensual means. Which is why it's a form of theft.
 

schuylaar

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The problem with using the term "bargaining" when referring to teachers unions is it's inaccurate in a literal sense.

The Unions don't actually bargain with the individual people who are forced to pay them.

The default assumption being that the individuals who make the payments to teachers can be subjugated to an alleged majority decision and it can still be called a "bargain" In other words when duress of the individual payor is ignored in a negotiating process, the results of the "bargaining" aren't produced thru consensual means. Which is why it's a form of theft.
the better term would be proxy.
 

Rob Roy

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the better term would be proxy.
Hmmm.

A proxy for an individual or a group of individuals who does not have the actual consent of everyone of those individuals has overstepped the meaning of "representation" and has instead taken on a different role.

For instance, if you said I was your proxy and you weren't under any duress when you made the choice, I could be your proxy. However if I declared myself your proxy and you really didn't want me to be "bargaining" in your behalf, I would be something other than a proxy.
 

schuylaar

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Hmmm.

A proxy for an individual or a group of individuals who does not have the actual consent of everyone of those individuals has overstepped the meaning of "representation" and has instead taken on a different role.

For instance, if you said I was your proxy and you weren't under any duress when you made the choice, I could be your proxy. However if I declared myself your proxy and you really didn't want me to be "bargaining" in your behalf, I would be something other than a proxy.
hmmm. yes i see. i was thinking of bargaining proxy instead of individual citizens since individually there is no voice.
 

Grandpapy

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The Unions don't actually bargain with the individual people who are forced to pay them.
hehe.

It's in our nations interest that we sacrifice solders to sell Iraq Oil to china @ $2.00 per bbl. just ask Exxon. We bargained right? We decided oil was more important then an education.
Meanwhile Exxon shows OK how to deal with earthquakes and drive around pot holes and gets a tax brake for their civic pride.
Ha ha, no one drives to Beijing from Washington.
Commerce is the game, the newest and richest customers are in china. (see Boeing)


"Comrade"
 

Rob Roy

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hehe.

It's in our nations interest that we sacrifice solders to sell Iraq Oil to china @ $2.00 per bbl. just ask Exxon. We bargained right? We decided oil was more important then an education.
Meanwhile Exxon shows OK how to deal with earthquakes and drive around pot holes and gets a tax brake for their civic pride.


Ha ha, no one drives to Beijing from Washington.
Commerce is the game, the newest and richest customers are in china. (see Boeing)


"Comrade"

Meanwhile....On the horizon....

 

londonfog

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Histrionics.

And Labor Unions are finally stepping up to the plate of holding their party affiliations accountable for results.

Why do you cling so desperately to a Democratic Party that doesn't give one single fuck about you?
The labor unions went out the door with right to work states Unless Bernard has a plan to change that...
You have idiots who don't want to pay Union dues...so this is the bullshit you get. Labor Unions have lost their power
Bernie votes with the Democrats 95% of the time and he ran as a democrat. Does Bernard secretly desire to be a Dem?
Stay off Youtube..shit fucks with weak-minded peoples head.
 
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