the politics of fucking little girls: roy moore, the next GOP senator from alabama

will you vote for roy moore, the nazi pedophile?

  • yes, MAGA!

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Fogdog

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The legal statute of limitations expired decades ago.

He's fucking guilty anyway.

Name one case where multiple women who don't know each other, came forward with a similar story that ultimately proved to be untrue.

I'll be waiting patiently.

Nobody's trying to put him in prison, just trying to keep him out of the senate.
Actually molesting a 14 YO in Alabama there is no statute of limitations. Getting Alabama justice system involved is probably the largest obstacle. If he were a Democrat or African American it's my guess we'd already have images of his perp walk on the web.
 

Fogdog

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My vote from California was meaningless. Clinton won CA. Habla Engles? I had the luxury of being able to cast my vote how I actually wanted to according to my own personal beliefs, so I wrote in Bernie Sanders. Like I've said dozens of times which repeatedly falls on deaf Clinton supporting ears, if I lived in a swing state or the Rust Belt, I would have cast my vote for Clinton, against Trump.

Somehow that doesn't mean anything, since you still blame us for Trump getting elected anyway, even though more people who supported Sanders voted for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton supporters voted for Obama in 2008, yet somehow he still managed to win....

Hashtag, so there's that...
Your and your kind's endless trash talk affected the election. Sanders supporters are to blame. Start your third party already.
 

see4

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My vote from California was meaningless. Clinton won CA. Habla Engles? I had the luxury of being able to cast my vote how I actually wanted to according to my own personal beliefs, so I wrote in Bernie Sanders. Like I've said dozens of times which repeatedly falls on deaf Clinton supporting ears, if I lived in a swing state or the Rust Belt, I would have cast my vote for Clinton, against Trump.

Somehow that doesn't mean anything, since you still blame us for Trump getting elected anyway, even though more people who supported Sanders voted for Clinton in 2016 than Clinton supporters voted for Obama in 2008, yet somehow he still managed to win....

Hashtag, so there's that...
Your vote is not meaningless. Everyone's vote should count.

I do blame Bernie/Stein voters for the failed election. I specifically blame those voters who reside in Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

California, like Massachusetts and other educated states, will never be in trouble of voting a Republican President... I shouldn't say never, but very unlikely.
 

see4

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Sanders and Stein supporters are not the reason she lost. More of them voted for her then didn't.. How many Democrats and Independents didn't come out to vote at all for her?
No, a rigged election processes is why Clinton lost. She received more than 3 million more votes than Trump, and more than 4 million more votes than Sanders.

By the rules of electoral college, Clinton lost by a narrow 70,000+ votes in counties and states I listed above. In those counties, in those aforementioned states, many people were Democrat voters who voted for Sanders or Other, instead of voting Clinton.

I feel like you're debating for the sake of debating and not actually trying to reach a conclusion or convince anyone of anything. You should stop doing that, it's boring.
 

Padawanbater2

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No, a rigged election processes is why Clinton lost. She received more than 3 million more votes than Trump, and more than 4 million more votes than Sanders.

By the rules of electoral college, Clinton lost by a narrow 70,000+ votes in counties and states I listed above. In those counties, in those aforementioned states, many people were Democrat voters who voted for Sanders or Other, instead of voting Clinton.

I feel like you're debating for the sake of debating and not actually trying to reach a conclusion or convince anyone of anything. You should stop doing that, it's boring.
9% of registered Democrats voted for Trump. Why would you blame the less than 9% of votes that went to Stein or Sanders write ins instead of them?
 

see4

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9% of registered Democrats voted for Trump. Why would you blame the less than 9% of votes that went to Stein or Sanders write ins instead of them?
You are intentionally being obtuse. The registered Democrats who voted for Trump should be shipped off to North Korea and be long forgotten. I'm referring to the Democrat voters who voted for Sanders or Stein or Daffy Fucking Duck instead of Clinton in the aforementioned states.

I'm not talking about California voters, nor am I talking about voters who voted for Trump specifically. I am talking about the asshats who voted for Bernie or Stein because "Clinton was a meany".

Either you aren't bright or you are intentionally being obtuse and argumentative because you are bored and have no life. It's literally one of those two options. Pick one.
 

Padawanbater2

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The registered Democrats who voted for Trump should be shipped off to North Korea and be long forgotten.
Because you disagree with them doesn't change the fact that they are registered Democrats who voted for Trump. More of them than Sanders supporters. So you don't get to dismiss them and lay all the blame for Trumps win on Sanders supporters when more of your own political party voted for him then we did.
 

tangerinegreen555

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No. I tell the truth as I see it regardless of political affiliation
Who are you, CNN?

The endless 'noise' about Hillary Clinton impacted that election.

The sad thing is most of that 'noise' was the result of a 20 year smear campaign started by the right, reinforced by right wing radio, and then by Russian ads on social media that the uneducated accepted as fact.

The ONLY thing you guys could ever really legitimately come up with is campaign donors that I still don't have a problem with.

Citizens United changed the rules. I'd get rid of it in a heart beat, but until then you better be able to match the money or you'll be buried by negative ads that idiots will believe.

I'm a pragmatist, you live in a dream world 50 yrs. into the future.

There are a dozen reasons Trump snuck in the back door. The 'noise' helped whether you accept it or not.

And in the end, how could you even argue about the difference between a racist Trump regime vs. a Clinton administration that would be a protector of the environment, civility, minorities, women, etc.

Isn't it clear as a bell at this point?

A lot of your BS at this point is the product of constant arguing and name calling with UB.

Either you're a Democrat during elections or you're not. You would have had 4 years to criticize HRC. AFTER Trump was stopped and discarded.

You can't be happy with the current state of affairs.
 

Unclebaldrick

Well-Known Member
Who are you, CNN?

The endless 'noise' about Hillary Clinton impacted that election.

The sad thing is most of that 'noise' was the result of a 20 year smear campaign started by the right, reinforced by right wing radio, and then by Russian ads on social media that the uneducated accepted as fact.

The ONLY thing you guys could ever really legitimately come up with is campaign donors that I still don't have a problem with.

Citizens United changed the rules. I'd get rid of it in a heart beat, but until then you better be able to match the money or you'll be buried by negative ads that idiots will believe.

I'm a pragmatist, you live in a dream world 50 yrs. into the future.

There are a dozen reasons Trump snuck in the back door. The 'noise' helped whether you accept it or not.

And in the end, how could you even argue about the difference between a racist Trump regime vs. a Clinton administration that would be a protector of the environment, civility, minorities, women, etc.

Isn't it clear as a bell at this point?

A lot of your BS at this point is the product of constant arguing and name calling with UB.

Either you're a Democrat during elections or you're not. You would have had 4 years to criticize HRC. AFTER Trump was stopped and discarded.

You can't be happy with the current state of affairs.
The problem with that future dream world is that it leaves out 50 years of Trump-types running the tables on elections, wiping their asses with the constitution and destroying the republic in order to advance their fucked up agenda. But these folks will still be there gnashing their teeth and pulling their hair and blaming Hillary for it all happening. But their navels will be clean, so clean.

In the end they will blame us, muttering "did you even watch the clip?" on their deathbeds.
 
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see4

Well-Known Member
Because you disagree with them doesn't change the fact that they are registered Democrats who voted for Trump. More of them than Sanders supporters. So you don't get to dismiss them and lay all the blame for Trumps win on Sanders supporters when more of your own political party voted for him then we did.
What? That's not even the point dude. Seriously, you're not good at this. So sad.
 
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