Cornel West Isn't Impressed With Barack Obama, Either

Fogdog

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Benjamin Netanyahu: The Arabs are currently focusing on a war of terror and they think it will break us. The main thing, first of all, is to hit them. Not just one blow, but blows that are so painful that the price will be too heavy to be borne.
The price is not too heavy to be borne, now. A broad attack on the Palestinian Authority.
To bring them to the point of being afraid that everything is collapsing…
Wait a moment, but they the world will say “how come you’re conquering again?”
The world won’t say a thing. The world will say we’re defending.
Aren’t you afraid of the world, Bibi?
Especially today, with America, I know what America is.

American is something that can easily be moved. Moved to the right direction.
They say the’re for us, but, it’s like…
They won’t get in our way. They won’t get in our way.
On the other hand, if we do some something, then they…
So let’s say they say something. So they said it! 80% of the Americans support us. It’s absurd.
We have that kind of support and we say “what will we do withe the…”
Look. That administration [Clinton] was extremely pro-Palestinian. I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there.
I was not afraid to clash with Clinton. I was not afraid to clash with the United Nations.
I was paying the price anyway, I preferred to receive the value. Value for the price.
I found the stuff you posted here:

The web site was clearly not an unbiased source. Can you vouch for the accuracy of that interpretation of what Netanyahu said?
 

Fogdog

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You agree with others claiming I'm somehow anti semitic because of the things other people I associate with say. Yet when the same claim is levied towards you for the exact same reason, somehow you're immune to the things others you associate with say.

Your tactics are shallow and lack all execution in reality. You will remain to be held to the same standard, despite your objection.
Do you agree with tty that Israel's treatment of Palestinians is the same as Nazi treatment of Jews and South African apartheid policies?
 

Padawanbater2

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"The same"? No, I wouldn't. Israelis and South Africans never constructed internment/extermination camps for the explicit purpose of genocide. They have however established very similar circumstances for Palestinians that Jews under Nazi occupation experienced, wholeheartedly supported by the right wing, nationalistic government headed by Netanyahu. Do you deny that?
 

Fogdog

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"The same"? No, I wouldn't. Israelis and South Africans never constructed internment/extermination camps for the explicit purpose of genocide. They have however established very similar circumstances for Palestinians that Jews under Nazi occupation experienced, wholeheartedly supported by the right wing, nationalistic government headed by Netanyahu. Do you deny that?
to equate means to be equal. Do you think that Israel's treatment of Palestinians is the same as those given to Jews under Nazi Germany? Do you think that Israel's treatment of Palestinians is the same as those given to black Africans under South Africa's apartheid governments?

The above is what tty has claimed to be true. Do you agree with this?

From what you said you disagree. I don't think that tty is an all out antisemitic person. But what he said was antisemitic. Because you aren't saying that then we are done.
 

dagwood45431

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Yet you're completely OK with others in your group condemning me as antisemitic for the things others have said;

So you just claimed it's wrong for me to attribute the things that are said by the group of people you hang out with around here, so do you condemn Buck for the exact same thing here, or do you hold us both to different standards?

That's exactly what I've said since the beginning..

Again, that's exactly what I've said since the beginning.. Any condemnation I have against Israel is and has always been strictly towards the Israeli government, not the Israeli people
Taper's proxy war. Cute.
 

trippnface

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LOL. You don't read very well, do you. Well I had said earlier that our education system failed you.

The author was showing how Nazis were falsely using "socialist" in their party name to woo the leftists in Germany to support fascism. Fascists are doing the same here and some of their propaganda has spilled over into white so-called leftist dialogue. Nazis calling their party socialist was a lie, and not too different from things things you say. You've either have swallowed those lies or you are a fascist and have come here to falsely spread lies. I don't really care. You are spreading the lies of fascism and I'm calling you out for it.

"Fascists have historically used radical-sounding or populist appeals and adopted themes opportunistically from socialism and the labor movement, and then mixed those themes with theories of nationalism and racial pride."

No dude, read it until you understand. That is NOT what they are saying, at all.


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
 

Fogdog

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"Fascists have historically used radical-sounding or populist appeals and adopted themes opportunistically from socialism and the labor movement, and then mixed those themes with theories of nationalism and racial pride."

No dude, read it until you understand. That is NOT what they are saying, at all.


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/hitler-and-the-socialist-dream-1186455.html

https://mises.org/library/why-nazism-was-socialism-and-why-socialism-totalitarian
Explain what you think that sentence means. When I read that, the author is explicitly saying fascists will adopt words from the left for their own purposes. Nazis were not and never were socialists. This is demonstrated by what they did, not what they called themselves. The same thing is going on today. The fascist right are wooing the ignorant of the left.

Mises Institute. LOL. From their mission statement:

Our scholarly work is founded in Misesian praxeology, and in self-conscious opposition to the mathematical modeling and hypothesis-testing that has created so much confusion in neoclassical economics.

In other words, they reject math and science. It is the philosophy of the ignorant or people who use them as tools.
 
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trippnface

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d so much confusion in neoclassical economics.

In other words, they reject math and science. It is the philosophy of the ignorant or people who use them as tools.

Twice in a row.

That is so obviously NOT what they mean.

Yea. I'm done.

Good luck bro!
 
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