Lockout? Hungry? Help? Mid flower

projectinfo

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OK i guess I figured it out. I dont use canna they have a fine product from what I hear. If your at 800 in solo cups and its working --sweet-==-==-= Im thinking of four foot tall plants right now for some reason. and 800 wouldnt be enough imo. Carry on.
Every line and nutrient is different. If we're not using exactly the same shit it's almost impossible to diagnose.

But as my feed is higher than my runoff. I think I'm safe to assume I could go from the light feed schedule to the medium feed schedule am I right haha. ;) that's all I was saying pal
 

WheresmyATF

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First off what week are you in? Your plants look like they were/are /has been potassium deficient. Probably mag and now they sucked up all the nitrogen out of the leaves to go along with all that. Sounds like from how you post that you underfed alot. The one guy posted about the blueberry being light feeders and you stated that that blueberry plant looks better. Do I got that right? So it sounds like you have been underfeeding the other plants and it looks like it unless your at the end of flower.

Here's what you do. Pick all of the worst sick, dead, faded leaves off of the plant. They are not helping anything other than blocking light on any good leaves you have left. DO NOT pick off anything that still has some green to it, lets not get stupid. Mix in 2 full teaspoons of epsom salt into a gallon of water for how many gallons you need to make, water that in till you have some run off at the bottom. Let it go till you need to water again. When you water again only go about 3/4 strength nutes. Im gunna say between 1200-1500 ppms tops. At this stage if you try to blast it with nutes, trying to jam nutes in that bitch your going to fry it. If you use molasses its only 5-10ml per gallon mixed in well as the molasses will stick to the bottom of your feed container AND add some microbes to that and you should be adding a little bit (small pinch) of microbes to each watering. You probably haven't added any microbes have you? Microbes are your friend. Since you say you gotta stick with those nutes you have, you should add a potassium additive to your feed for next time. Potassium is the energy element. I dont like the ratio of your nutes fwiw.
Ok man thanks. I have calimagic i'v been adding since flower began, is this alright instead of epsom?. I was dealing with over feeding in veg so was dailing it back. I'm on day 45 week 6. Can try to get some K additive. And no i havent added any microbes :/ just stuck with nutes due to using all my capital
 

Bernie420

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Every line and nutrient is different. If we're not using exactly the same shit it's almost impossible to diagnose.

But as my feed is higher than my runoff. I think I'm safe to assume I could go from the light feed schedule to the medium feed schedule am I right haha. ;) that's all I was saying pal
I never measure runoff but in my non scientific mind your runoff should be as high as your feed or higher. How does it flow through a solo cup and come out at the bottom with less ppm than it did three seconds before when you poured it in.

Depends if you want to make the move to a higher ppm. Less ppm's promote veg and root growth and more ppm promotes fruiting and flowering.
 

Bernie420

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Ok man thanks. I have calimagic i'v been adding since flower began, is this alright instead of epsom?. I was dealing with over feeding in veg so was dailing it back. I'm on day 45 week 6. Can try to get some K additive. And no i havent added any microbes :/ just stuck with nutes due to using all my capital
Should of been using calmagic through the whole grow when needed and they like calcium alot and mag alot. I would say you dont need a k additive right now since your so late in flower. I would rather you had epsom salt as that will for lack of a better term reset the plant and release nutrients around that can be released. Right now we just want to get to the finish line.
 

WheresmyATF

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Should of been using calmagic through the whole grow when needed and they like calcium alot and mag alot. I would say you dont need a k additive right now since your so late in flower. I would rather you had epsom salt as that will for lack of a better term reset the plant and release nutrients around that can be released. Right now we just want to get to the finish line.
alright will do. I was waiting for shipments as well through the grow as its my first. So cal mag showed up a week before flower. Can probably get epsom and should be able to water in 3 days hopefully.
 

Bernie420

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alright will do. I was waiting for shipments as well through the grow as its my first. So cal mag showed up a week before flower. Can probably get epsom and should be able to water in 3 days hopefully.
I dont know where your from and you dont need to tell me but they sell epsom salt just about every place here. I gave you what I would do if I was you right now. Just need to get to the end without trying to fug it up. Like I said I dont like your nutrient ratio the veg looks ok to me but that 50 in your flower nutes - for me I dont like a 5/20/17 sounds a lot more manageable for bloom
 

Bernie420

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wanted to jump back in here for a minute. I just topped off my rez and gave it some kool bloom which is a 2/45/28 which is a bloom booster. What you call bloom nutrients the 5/50/17 sounds like a bloom booster to me.
 

WheresmyATF

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wanted to jump back in here for a minute. I just topped off my rez and gave it some kool bloom which is a 2/45/28 which is a bloom booster. What you call bloom nutrients the 5/50/17 sounds like a bloom booster to me.
Thats kinda good to know. Due to my over feeding in veg i i didnt add anything but the flower nutes since starting flower, slowly up'd the dose every watering till the full dose. Then my first post covers the rest. Directions say half to full teaspoon per gallon everything second water
 

WheresmyATF

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wanted to jump back in here for a minute. I just topped off my rez and gave it some kool bloom which is a 2/45/28 which is a bloom booster. What you call bloom nutrients the 5/50/17 sounds like a bloom booster to me.
So things got worse over night.. at least I think. I can't tell if the yellowIng got worse but lots of the leaves have begane to shrivel without getting crispy. My logic now is to just let it keep the leaves it's got to get the nutes outta them and maybe pull em off if they are sitting on top of other leaves after shrivelling, and follow as you said. But I'm thinking it's gunna be Epsom salt water, 3/4 nute feed, then flush for harvest. It's next 3 waterings these colours may be natural on the bud however idk. Bud is healthy minor tip burn on a few tiny leafs
 

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Alright alright lol.. brb
 

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here's what I took off. Some others still have a tiny bit of green on em and I didn't wanna take tooo much off.image.jpg

Also weird note but leaves on the left are soft but completely yellow,right are crispyimage.jpg
 
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