The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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If Trump goes down over conspiracy or worse related to the election, would that make his election invalid? Would that make the things his appointments do invalid? Thinking of justice Dept., new judges and DAs.. Seems their cases wouldn't hold up, which brings up reimbursement and damages and retrial. How much would that cost the sheeple?
The election is done, there will be no do overs, the election stands and so do the crimes committed to influence it, some things ya just gotta live with. It would ne nice to erase 45 and have a do over, but it ain't gonna fly, lock the pricks up, make the right changes to make sure it doesn't happen again and move on. Some days you get the bear and some days the bear gets you. It will be hard enough to get the GOP to go along with impeachment, don't push it!

You'll be making history here as it is, the first president impeached, convicted and sentenced to prison, along with a thousand other assholes. Enjoy the show, yer tax dollars are paying for it, money well spent, now sit back in front of the TV with a big bag of popcorn and get yer money's worth watching Mueller swing the sword of justice.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Muehler dropped more mcnuggets tonight. It turns out he told the court in mannaforts case that he would be adding more charges dealing with committing bank fraud and conspiring to commit bank fraud. He also said the fraud kind of negates the collateral he is posting, because he is gonna get foreclosed on it. woops. More home time.

Mannafort was trumps business partner, and they worked on several proojects together. He had a high visibility position trumps org.

Doesn't take a crystal ball to connect those dots to see a conspiracy.
I think when Mueller's team tells its story it will go something like this: "Every rock we turned over we found a crime, Trump committed crimes like breathing, automatically and almost everyday. Manafort, Felix Sater and several other shady characters are the tip of the iceberg, only the statute of limitations will stop Mueller. They will probably find hundreds of crimes they can easily convict him of and will pick and choose for now, Donald was a very bad hombre, he even grabbed women by the pussy in his spare time, a real creep.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Ex-Watergate Prosecutor: More Indictments Are Coming
Jill Wine-Banks, ex-Watergate prosecutor, says Mueller's indictment of 13 Russians for election interference is the tip of the iceberg and represents just one aspect of the overall Russian interference effort. Ari Melber & Benjamin Wittes join Lawrence O'Donnell.

Here are some expert opinions from lawyers
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I figured Donald would be twittering this morning, yesterday's news must have got him agitated and worried. He must know that he missed the bus for firing Rosenstein and there might even be another surprise next week. I wonder if Rosenstein will brief him on the cases that are close to him, say Don jr or Jared! Imagine going in every week with Trump and briefing him on cases that are close to home, turning the screws and watching the fucker squirm, worth getting fired for, in fact some people would pay to watch. I have a feeling the report to the house on impeachment will be a surprise to Donald and the public, they might do Donald while he's in Florida golfing. He could be gone so quick he might not be able to pardon anybody, since they will strip away anybody who can write one.

I wonder if Mueller has anybody wearing a wire in the WH or has the place bugged, this is an all or nothing fight to the death. I don't figure they have the WH bugged, no need, but as for people wearing wires that's a different matter, a wire these days is just a cellphone app...
 

greg nr

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Meanwhile on faux news.....
-- lebron james is evil piggery
-- the fbi is under fire for the florida shooting
-- ted cruz is bashing cnn over something or other
-- bashing a victim awarded money in court
-- a drunken brawl on a cruise ship boots 23 people

The russian interferance news? One small video clip. No analysis. No outrage.

And that is what 40+% of the country will know today.
 

Grandpapy

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What's sadly lacking is the Oil, Ag, Pharma, Industry's outrage over possible govt. overthrow.

I wonder how Exxon's $500 billion deal to get Russian oil to China is going?
I'm betting tensions are high.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Meanwhile on faux news.....
-- lebron james is evil piggery
-- the fbi is under fire for the florida shooting
-- ted cruz is bashing cnn over something or other
-- bashing a victim awarded money in court
-- a drunken brawl on a cruise ship boots 23 people

The russian interferance news? One small video clip. No analysis. No outrage.

And that is what 40+% of the country will know today.
There are three other networks plus CNN plus others in the TV market alone, can't see how FOX could have 40% of the TV viewership. The viewership of FOX is older and is most affected by the russia news, they lived the cold war and it's hard to shake, the younger fox viewers tend to be morons. When the regular news people show up on monday shep and crew will give a more "fair and balanced" view...

Yer obviously watching too much FOX news, explains yer pessimism!
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Several weeks ago kelly issued an order that no personal phones or recording devices were allowed for staff in the wh.
If Mueller orders ya to do it or he'll put ya where the sun don't shine forever, it's not personal, it's survival then!
 

greg nr

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There are three other networks plus CNN plus others in the TV market alone, can't see how FOX could have 40% of the TV viewership. The viewership of FOX is older and is most affected by the russia news, they lived the cold war and it's hard to shake, the younger fox viewers tend to be morons. When the regular news people show up on monday shep and crew will give a more "fair and balanced" view...
October ’17 Basic Cable Top 5 – Prime Time (total viewers)

  1. ESPN (2,829,000)
  2. Fox News (2,258,000)
  3. TBS (2,125,000)
  4. Fox Sports 1 (1,798,000)
  5. MSNBC (1,582,000)

So if we assume espn and fox sports don't provide any news, and tbs doesn't include cnn, then fox news beat out it's next biggest rival by almost 100%.

So yeah, they probably have a 40% viewership for news among the voting population. Most republicans watch fox news exclusively, or at least most of the time. That's, at least, when they aren't listening to one of the barking heads on the rahdeo.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What's sadly lacking is the Oil, Ag, Pharma, Industry's outrage over possible govt. overthrow.

I wonder how Exxon's $500 billion deal to get Russian oil to China is going?
I'm betting tensions are high.
They are international corporations and their only stake in the country is the value of the dollar cause their stock is priced in it and oil traded using it.

China can build a pipeline to russia no problem and import all the oil they like, Vlad better not fuck with the supply or play games though. Dunno what they would need exxon for, maybe production.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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October ’17 Basic Cable Top 5 – Prime Time (total viewers)

  1. ESPN (2,829,000)
  2. Fox News (2,258,000)
  3. TBS (2,125,000)
  4. Fox Sports 1 (1,798,000)
  5. MSNBC (1,582,000)

So if we assume espn and fox sports don't provide any news, and tbs doesn't include cnn, then fox news beat out it's next biggest rival by almost 100%.

So yeah, they probably have a 40% viewership for news among the voting population. Most republicans watch fox news exclusively, or at least most of the time. That's, at least, when they aren't listening to one of the barking heads on the rahdeo.
If ya look at the numbers, it only amounts to 11 or 12 million people, many TV viewers today are older and low IQ, smarter and younger people tend to get their news online. FOX tends to follow eyeballs and money and the old eyeballs watching fox are gonna be interested in the russia news, they grew up with the cold war and russia is viewed with suspicion. Russia can hurt him with the older segment of his base, those who grew up with the cold war and flag wavers in general. Reality is creeping in on the Trumpers too, the only way out is madness, drugs or death.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Monologue: Traitor Trump's Toxic Trysts | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Bill recaps the top stories of the week, including the latest Mueller indictment and another alleged Trump affair.
 

greg nr

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If ya look at the numbers, it only amounts to 11 or 12 million people, many TV viewers today are older and low IQ, smarter and younger people tend to get their news online. FOX tends to follow eyeballs and money and the old eyeballs watching fox are gonna be interested in the russia news, they grew up with the cold war and russia is viewed with suspicion. Russia can hurt him with the older segment of his base, those who grew up with the cold war and flag wavers in general. Reality is creeping in on the Trumpers too, the only way out is madness, drugs or death.
True, but my guestimate was for voters who watch news shows or read their websites. Young people get their feeds through social media, but fox is a player in those feeds. And you can be sure the other conservative news outlets, be they print, tv, or social, are following the same script.

They haven't opened the shades to let their consumers see the real world, and they won't.

My point is don't assume that the 37% of republicans who still support trump will see any of this.

The only thing they hear about the muehler investigation is what trump and the gop feeds them.

Fake news.

The only commentary they will hear about the shootings is nra friendly. The only information they will get on democrats is negative.

Fake News.

That is the bubble they live in. They are nearly impossible to reach.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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True, but my guestimate was for voters who watch news shows or read their websites. Young people get their feeds through social media, but fox is a player in those feeds. And you can be sure the other conservative news outlets, be they print, tv, or social, are following the same script.

They haven't opened the shades to let their consumers see the real world, and they won't.

My point is don't assume that the 37% of republicans who still support trump will see any of this.

The only thing they hear about the muehler investigation is what trump and the gop feeds them.

Fake news.

The only commentary they will hear about the shootings is nra friendly. The only information they will get on democrats is negative.

Fake News.

That is the bubble they live in. They are nearly impossible to reach.
The bubble issue is a problem, FOX viewers wanna be fooled, they'd get mad and throw things at the TV if they showed them normal news. There are advertisers who now take advantage of this particular audience and you only see them on FOX, they know suckers when they see them! You want propaganda, go to FOX, news can be found almost everywhere else. FOX ain't left vs right anymore but reality vs something Donald pulled outta his ass and that smells as bad as it looks. They've created a dog whistle orchestra for older white Americans and Trump is their champion, the great white hope.
 
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