I Think I have a magnesium any ideas?
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Care to elaborate on your evidence for the OP stink bug? Without showing some other page from a website.
Why not try and put it in lamens terms, for him to understand?
I think its more important for you to explain to him, exactly what you mean.
It'll help OP a lot.
Im sorry mate. I was being genuine. I think itd help him.
You misread my comment.
I know about ec's and RO. I learned the hard way, by using hard water. Still do use it. But i had to know what it was for my grows to be ok.
We need to both be giving him advice. If i had a ppm meter and RO water i'd be walking the park.
It should be the easiest thing in the world with RO and a meter.
Stink Bug
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Learning to read your plants will tell you volumes more than any pH or ec/ppm meter. If you are full on hydro they are a must though.
And you do not grow with RO water. That would explain why you do not need to use CalMag. Your water, like a lot of tap water, contains enough of both.
And you do not grow with RO water. That would explain why you do not need to use CalMag. Your water, like a lot of tap water, contains enough of both.
Not mine. I have to quite often feed ebsom to fix the coir. I get calcium lockout. Theres heaps of lime in my water.
I still dont know the ppms of my tap to this day. Its just how it is. But a meter would tell me everything.
You dont have to buffer RO at all, if the coir is soaked and the cation exchange happens. Thats what coir is all about.
Here is what I figured from what I have read. The link Stink bug posted about coco and buffering coco makes sense to me and answers the question of why I have a problem. My thinking is if I would have started with buffered coco I would not have this problem and I need to solve that problem first. This is where I get the flushing with a flush to reset the CEC in my coco. Once this is done I was going to stay with the same ml I have been at since the amount of nuts didn't seem to be the issue even if they are high. Adding Big Bloom add subtracting from Grow big but same PPMs
No it isnt Lennut. Its exactly what you need to do
Only you knew if you bought unbuffered, or buffered. I love it. You're getting it.
Probably a touchy subject as well, but, i reckon next time to buffer and rinse your coco, boil your RO in a stainless steel pot. Then give the coir a big flush with the boiling water, so it disolves all the salts the coir contains. Then just flush it cold a few times, and check the runoff ppm. I reckon you could get it pretty damn near close to 0ppm. Works a treat for the blocks i use. Then i just give it a really tiny a+b to buffer.
Happy grow mate.
Stink Bug
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Admittedly doesn't own a ppm or pH meter. Yet he is telling you how important it is to measure runoff.
Grows with tap water, not RO water. Yet tells you that buffering coco with CalMag is not needed.
And he calls you an idiot Lennut, too funny. The only I can see that would make you an idiot is listening to this him. I think it's obvious who is the idiot here. And it's certainly not you or I.
Tim your advice is wrong with no foundation or merit. Would you please start a grow journal. I think many of us would really enjoy watching your grow progress.
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You dont need the calmag dude not if you saturate the coco.
What do you do for the K???
Biggest problem in coir is not flushing the old salts through in your runoff. Everytime.
Which is exactly what was happening.
Its the same as underwatering a garden and giving it frequent waterings. All the salts build and burn the plant.
Its only amplified in coir.
His plant was on the mend within the hour. Then extra nutes were added the next day.
You have to buffer all media. Coco in small quantities is FANTASTIC for soil especially during flower, because of its CEC.
600ppm is way, way, waaaaaaaay too much for a plant that size. Especially coir. If you dont flush it all out each feed, it builds and the next time you feed you're fucked, and its lockout again.
Best of luck lennut. Really.
What do you do for the K???
Biggest problem in coir is not flushing the old salts through in your runoff. Everytime.
Which is exactly what was happening.
Its the same as underwatering a garden and giving it frequent waterings. All the salts build and burn the plant.
Its only amplified in coir.
His plant was on the mend within the hour. Then extra nutes were added the next day.
You have to buffer all media. Coco in small quantities is FANTASTIC for soil especially during flower, because of its CEC.
600ppm is way, way, waaaaaaaay too much for a plant that size. Especially coir. If you dont flush it all out each feed, it builds and the next time you feed you're fucked, and its lockout again.
Best of luck lennut. Really.
I am not trying to produce high yields yet. This is a hobby for me kind of like my fish tanks and I just want to create a new environment and make things grow and live in it. I started with one plant because I want to understand not make money or high yield.
Stink bug I came up with a flush because the grow schedule say to flush every 4 weeks. Is this something you do or is it needed?
Stink bug I came up with a flush because the grow schedule say to flush every 4 weeks. Is this something you do or is it needed?