Are we all greedy?

[SneekyNinja]

I figure Trump will help you get a publicly funded single payer health care system much quicker by destroying the republicans and splitting the right for a decade. Where I'm from in Canada such things are covered by the health care system, sometimes people ask for public help with experimental treatments, travel and lodging for family in the US etc, though these are not common circumstances.

Right now a child needs help and the support of a family and community of humans, social change takes time.

The problem with that being one person can't help everyone that needs it...so it's usually better to conserve resources to help people "closer to home"...

Like the OP should be with his friend/acquaintance's kid.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

$10? Probably not. But I'm trying to find out, why as society in general, we don't care? You bringing up "not my acquaintance", it's interesting because if we are not related in someway to the person in need, then the blame falls to the people who are.

At just a quick look, I saw 10 other children in similar situations on gofundme. It is heartbreaking, but why am I not pushed to sell all of "non-survival" possessions to help save the lives of these children? Is even a small amount of greed that powerful? These children's lives are literally in our hands, but I'm not selling my t.v so I can donate $500 to them.

Why we don't care? We do care many people give of themselves and give money, sometimes we feel overwhelmed though because the need is so great, because the greed is so great. Do what you can for others, no one person can solve the misery of the world, it's a group effort. Compassion is a key component of happiness and peace of mind, if you want a happy life, live a compassionate one, be generous and kind. Change the world one heart and mind at a time, starting with yourself and join with others who feel the same and watch your power multiply.

If you don't think a small group of determined people can change the world, tell me when it has been otherwise?

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The problem with that being one person can't help everyone that needs it...so it's usually better to conserve resources to help people "closer to home"...

Like the OP should be with his friend/acquaintance's kid.

I usually go with my heart on such issues, logic is of little help and usually is used to rationalise greed. Ya do what ya feel is right and can be at peace with.

 

[VILEPLUME]

I think it would be more advantageous to society overall if we spent our time and effort demanding the system change so children don't need a gofundme to get lifesaving medical treatment...

But maybe that's just me dreaming.

The counter argument I hear is that it's the families fault for not working hard enough to get health insurance in the first place. The other more harsher argument I hear is that this is natural selection taking place. Weeding out the sick and poor, so they don't reproduce more sick and poor.

I read an article stating that almost 45,000 Americans die each year because they lack health insurance. I wonder how many of those 45K are children?

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

 

[Fogdog]

The counter argument I hear is that it's the families fault for not working hard enough to get health insurance in the first place. The other more harsher argument I hear is that this is natural selection taking place. Weeding out the sick and poor, so they don't reproduce more sick and poor.

I read an article stating that almost 45,000 Americans die each year because they lack health insurance. I wonder how many of those 45K are children?

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

why are you quoting fake arguments? Just because somebody says something doesn't mean it deserves consideration.

 

[ttystikk]

This thread is an attempt to find fault with everything but the real problem; the criminal lack of universal health care.

The plot of America's most popular series followed a man who took up the manufacture of illegal drugs to pay for his family's medical bills.

Instead of yet another of thousands of GoFundMe accounts to help with someone's health care costs, perhaps we should agitate forcefully with our elected representatives for a national health service so no one ever need suffer such an indignity again.

It is the greatest of indictments against our nation that we not only don't do it, but don't even think of it in situations like these.

To answer the question more directly; we're all complicit in the immoral activities of the most greedy among us.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

 

[Fogdog]

This thread is an attempt to find fault with everything but the real problem; the criminal lack of universal health care.

The plot of America's most popular series followed a man who took up the manufacture of illegal drugs to pay for his family's medical bills.

Instead of yet another of thousands of GoFundMe accounts to help with someone's health care costs, perhaps we should agitate forcefully with our elected representatives for a national health service so no one ever need suffer such an indignity again.

It is the greatest of indictments against our nation that we not only don't do it, but don't even think of it in situations like these.

To answer the question more directly; we're all complicit in the immoral activities of the most greedy among us.

I think the question was more urgent than how can we solve healthcare system in a few years.

 

[ttystikk]

I think the question was more urgent than how can we solve healthcare system in a few years.

I think saving the lives and health of millions of our fellow Americans is an issue in urgent need of attention.

 

[Fogdog]

I think saving the lives and health of millions of our fellow Americans is an issue in urgent need of attention.

Thank you for answering what nobody asked.

 

[ttystikk]

Thank you for answering what nobody asked.

I know you hate facts.

Wouldn't it be nice if no one had to set up a GoFundMe account to pay for medical expenses?

Or are you cool with charity and the indignity of behind strangers for your life?

Jeff Sessions is, yet you like to call others right wingers.

You just hate facts, don't you?

 

[Fogdog]

I know you hate facts.

Wouldn't it be nice if no one had to set up a GoFundMe account to pay for medical expenses?

Or are you cool with charity and the indignity of behind strangers for your life?

Jeff Sessions is, yet you like to call others right wingers.

You just hate facts, don't you?

The OP was about the morality of turning down a plea for money from a family with a baby dying of cancer. Your reply was let's fix healthcare. The kid will be long gone and buried before that happens. Just saying that your monomaniacal rant is out of place in this thread.

 

[ttystikk]

The OP was about the morality of turning down a plea for money from a family with a baby dying of cancer. Your reply was let's fix healthcare. The kid will be long gone and buried before that happens. Just saying that your monomaniacal rant is out of place in this thread.

And I'm just saying that putting anyone in that position is an affront to everything America says it stands for and fails to live up to.

I can't believe you're trying to cast shade on the opinion that we should solve this problem, permanently, for everyone.

You've been breathing too many tailpipe fumes lately, smogdog.

 

[Fogdog]

And I'm just saying that putting anyone in that position is an affront to everything America says it stands for and fails to live up to.

I can't believe you're trying to cast shade on the opinion that we should solve this problem, permanently, for everyone.

You've been breathing too many tailpipe fumes lately, smogdog.

Since you can't read like an adult try sounding out the words. Maybe you'll be able to piece it together.

The OP was about the morality of turning down a plea for money from a family with a baby dying of cancer. Your reply was let's fix healthcare. The kid will be long gone and buried before that happens. Just saying that your monomaniacal rant is out of place in this thread.

 

[ttystikk]

Since you can't read like an adult try sounding out the words. Maybe you'll be able to piece it together.

Keep trying.

The indignity of the situation is what needs to be solved- for EVERYONE, tailpipe sniffer.

 

[Fogdog]

Keep trying.

The indignity of the situation is what needs to be solved- for EVERYONE, tailpipe sniffer.

Not going to try, I'll just repeat in the hope that one synapse in your brain still works.

The OP was about the morality of turning down a plea for money from a family with a baby dying of cancer. Your reply was let's fix healthcare. The kid will be long gone and buried before that happens. Just saying that your monomaniacal rant is out of place in this thread.

 

[ttystikk]

Not going to try, I'll just repeat in the hope that one synapse in your brain still works.

Repeating ineptitude does not gain you points.

 

[UncleBuck]

Repeating ineptitude does not gain you points.

please quote where i said that "the Palestinians deserve what they're getting" or apologize to me for lying and admit that you lied.

thanks

 

[Fogdog]

Repeating ineptitude does not gain you points.

he OP was about the morality of turning down a plea for money from a family with a baby dying of cancer. Your reply was let's fix healthcare. The kid will be long gone and buried before that happens. Just saying that your monomaniacal rant is out of place in this thread.

 

[ttystikk]

please quote where i said that "the Palestinians deserve what they're getting" or apologize to me for lying and admit that you lied.

thanks

Wrong thread. It's an easy mistake when you're drunk.