Ideal humidity for flowering?

[The Hippy]

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I do now
You have the wrong A/C
I have no need to add humidity with my controllers .
My A/C has controls so I can make it remove more or less humidity, my Quest is on a timer n controller.

All AC works the same. They cool and they dehumidify only. They can't add humidity only remove it. Possibly your referring to your home HVAC unit. To add humidity you need to add a humidifier. Which many home HVAC furnaces have. Like this...

I don't need a timer for the quest. It has a humidistat built in. Set n forget. But the issue is not TOO much humidity ...it too little humidity. AC won't fix that only make it worse.
Only a humidifier will add moisture .......or open barrels of water with a fan blowing on them..that works also.

If you want whole home dehumidification you need one of these.

I know how it all works very well.
Still nobody has offered any better way to humidify than that steamer unit. It's not the cash I worry about first, it's the result. Then how to get that result with what cash.

 

[The Hippy]

And wasted resources. Fact of the matter is it isnt very ideal for vented rooms. Which is why the majority of the talk about it comes from guys running sealed rooms

I was only joking on the lots of cash part...I know a sealed room and vented room are not the same...it was a funny. As in sarcasm....which i do a lot.

 

[The Hippy]

I’m ass backwards to you
When I started I had just enough to get by
20 yrs later , I got all the fun stuff. And will keep getting more if it makes my life easier.

@The Hippy
What’s your square feet and what lights n Dehumitifer are you running?

Gavita's and Spectrum Kings.

 

[bigmanc]

Gavita's and Spectrum Kings.

I’m glad I helped you decide on the gavitas

 

[BigHornBuds]

Your right , I got no clue
Thanks for all the info .
I only run a room full of Gavitas n a Quest and have no trouble with needing more RH

Your shit isn’t dialed in probably


I wish you the best with your steam bath

Peace Out ...

 

[itsmehigh]

C02 has nothing to do with this subject. I already use a fuzzy controller for the C02. That does nothing for humidity levels.
No not enough water during flowering the AC is dehumidifying that to low. You can't stop that with AC. Need the for cooling in lights on...do you see now?

If you are using a burner it is relevant, moisture, heat and C02 are a by product of a co2 burner.

Itsme

 

[The Hippy]

If you are using a burner it is relevant, moisture, heat and C02 are a by product of a co2 burner.

Itsme

I wish it did add some moisture...but it not enough if it does all.
For the amount of time that the burner runs it doesn't alter anything significantly. I run sealed...it doesn't need much run time. Maybe 10 min over an hour at the most...on-off-on-off.
And still no one one has a better plan to increase humidity during flowering.

 

[The Hippy]

Your right , I got no clue
Thanks for all the info .
I only run a room full of Gavitas n a Quest and have no trouble with needing more RH

Your shit isn’t dialed in probably


I wish you the best with your steam bath

Peace Out ...

No worries..glad to help you out.
All AC units all have a condensate drain. Because they remove moisture and need to drain it somewhere.
What sort of AC do you have? Is it your home furnace that does your cooling? Or do you have a dedicated unit for your grow room?

As I told you already...you can't " dial " in AC humidity. In a way your correct...it's not dialed in because I need more humidity during flowering. That why I'm looking at ways to add humidity. Smart ass half educated answers don't really do that.
Proper environmental conditions may need many devices to achieve that goal......that why they make them.
I guess Anden makes a steam unit so you can get your giggles. Must have made it just to see you laugh. I supposed...how silly of them. They probably make the rest of the dehumidifier line so they can include it in their standup routine. Some folks take this beyond the hobby level.
You want the best end result...you need the best setup. If you lucky enough to have fairies " dial " your environmental conditions.....consider yourself lucky.

 

[The Hippy]

Anyone actually know how to increase humidity during flowering.......any takers?
Beside the steambath route....lol

 

[gb123]

Put timers on the fans... turning some off and on..
put controllers on the dehumidifier.
If its an enclosed space .the humidity should rise fast this way.

 

[itsmehigh]

A client of mine was having RH problems as well, couldn’t figure out why his quest couldn’t keep up. Had the control knob cranked. I contacted quest and they recommended that a Quest controller be used, I was sceptical but it worked. It maybe usefull for your garden as you can dial in the quest to a set RH% instead of a guess what the knob is set at. Another way to increase RH is to raise temp as the hotter the air the more moisture it can hold, kind of a slippery slope, and honestly too low of RH isn’t much of a problem in the rainforest we call BC.

Itsme.

 

[ANC]

Just get a cheap steam based humidifier and a cheap hygrostat controller.
Add a feedline and a small aquarium float valve to keep it topped up.
Don't use shitty high frequency based diaphragm ones. They make too large water droplets.

 

[R.Raider]

I don't even think your r/h is all that bad Hippy. Would way rather have it on the lower end of things than the higher.

 

[The Hippy]

Put timers on the fans... turning some off and on..
put controllers on the dehumidifier.
If its an enclosed space .the humidity should rise fast this way.

Hippy, you can raise temps more than others, you are using CO2

Yes yes and yes...but....there always a butt....lol
Turning fans off and raising humidity can be the start of the conditions leading to mold. Don't want that monster. Gotta leave some air movement. I've already slowed my massive fans down a lot.
No I'm at my prefered temp now. Just need more moisture. The rooms almost perfect. Except this small issue. I'd be happy to be at 50% day and night. Luckily night is a snap and dialed perfect. The humidity at lights out is ideal and the quest takes care of it.
The steam unit would only need to run occasionally in lights on.
A timer could turn the steam unit off during the night cycle. ...bingo...perfection in climate control imo.
A continuous 24hr perfect humidity with perfect wind and day/night temps. That's the ticket.

 

[gb123]

just less//not off...

 

[The Hippy]

A client of mine was having RH problems as well, couldn’t figure out why his quest couldn’t keep up. Had the control knob cranked. I contacted quest and they recommended that a Quest controller be used, I was sceptical but it worked. It maybe usefull for your garden as you can dial in the quest to a set RH% instead of a guess what the knob is set at. Another way to increase RH is to raise temp as the hotter the air the more moisture it can hold, kind of a slippery slope, and honestly too low of RH isn’t much of a problem in the rainforest we call BC.

Itsme.

Yes the quest has only an analogue dial.....sorta shitty really.
But here's something you may not know.
Quest themselves say it's for a good reason. They claim that the analogue dial is more reliable over the long run and more heavy duty. Not my words. I wondered myself why it was NOT digital when i bought it.
But I can say it's is quite accurate and steady. I have several digital remote reading hygrometers in the room. Place in different locations and heights. really setting the Quest's humidity level was a breeze. Took only maybe 3 days of fidgeting.
so really I guess the digital was not needed.
Actually if you study most of the commercial dehumidifiers sold for restoration use or heavy service...many are continuous on only. Only some offer a dial with a set-point. I checked. More of the ceiling models have the digital function.

 

[The Hippy]

just less//not off...

Already done. Any lower they would be ineffective.

 

[The Hippy]

A client of mine was having RH problems as well, couldn’t figure out why his quest couldn’t keep up. Had the control knob cranked. I contacted quest and they recommended that a Quest controller be used, I was sceptical but it worked. It maybe usefull for your garden as you can dial in the quest to a set RH% instead of a guess what the knob is set at. Another way to increase RH is to raise temp as the hotter the air the more moisture it can hold, kind of a slippery slope, and honestly too low of RH isn’t much of a problem in the rainforest we call BC.

Itsme.

The problem is not the Quest removing too much moisture. That would be a no brainer....just adjust the Quest.
No the issue is during lights on heat, wind, infrared light all start to dry out the air. That why some type of humidifier is needed at that point. Not just in my garden any garden with low humidity any any point of the day.
Yep you guy have plenty of moist air there in gorgeous BC.
Hey @itsmehigh you know greenhouse stuff.
In my area we have a greenhouse that grows weed. I drove by it the other night and steam was coming out of the top of it stacks. The outside temp was about 3c. What would that be from? Lights were on...it was about midnight.

 

[itsmehigh]

The problem is not the Quest removing too much moisture. That would be a no brainer....just adjust the Quest.
No the issue is during lights on heat, wind, infrared light all start to dry out the air. That why some type of humidifier is needed at that point. Not just in my garden and garden with low humidity any any point of the day.
Yep you guy have plenty of moist air there in gorgeous BC.
Hey @itsmehigh you know greenhouse stuff.
In my area we have a greenhouse that grows weed. I drove by it the other night and steam was coming out of the top of it stacks. The outside temp was about 3c. What would that be from? Lights were on...it was about midnight.

Most likely from a boiler they are using to heat the GH.

Itsme

 

[The Hippy]

Most likely from a boiler they are using to heat the GH.

Itsme

Ah yes...