Here is an Alternative to UFO LED Lighting

[la9]

The truth is you need get your life together.

The truth is I know more about L.E.D.'s than you even thought about

The Truth is I know more about Electronics than you

The Truth is I know more about Electric than you

The Truth is I know more about growing than you

The truth is you talk smack on the computer about people because you lead a lonely life and are easily intimidated by others, and get pushed around and picked on,
and the truth is this is the only place you feel safe enough to treat people with the same lack of disrespect that you feel you are treated with, when in reality it is your behaviour that causes people to treat you that way but you can only blame others and not yourself, why would it ever be your fault.

I do apologize for that because I know it to be the truth and it is going to hurt, but hopefully someday you will realize it is true and change your ways and then you can have a prosperous life like most of us on this board.

and that is the truth.

 

[T.H.Cammo]

leds are shite , anyone who says otherwise has either just bought some or is trying to sell them . dont take my word for it just do your own research and u will see .

The "rocket scientists" at N.A.S.A. seem to have a different opinion, or did you miss that little item when you did your research?

Do you really expect to jump in here and expect us to believe you know what you are talking about? You are as naive and misinformed as that friggin' liar, la9. If that's your best shot, I feel sorry for you. Maybe if you understood what the research was talking about, you'd be whistleing a different tune.

It may not be today, and it may not be tommorow, but one day the LED revolution will begin. And no; I don't sell, nor would I recommend anyone to buy at this time, LED equiptment.

 

[la9]

LED's SUCK

but

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[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

The "rocket scientists" at N.A.S.A. seem to have a different opinion, or did you miss that little item when you did your research?

Do you really expect to jump in here and expect us to believe you know what you are talking about? You are as naive and misinformed as that friggin' liar, la9. If that's your best shot, I feel sorry for you. Maybe if you understood what the research was talking about, you'd be whistleing a different tune.

It may not be today, and it may not be tommorow, but one day the LED revolution will begin. And no; I don't sell, nor would I recommend anyone to buy at this time, LED equiptment.

well for the last 4 years ive been using different forums (been growing longer than that ) everytime ive seen a led grow its ended up a disaster or really pathetic yeild , go look on the icmag forums theres a very respected grower on there doing a led grow now and it sucks .
nassa only used them in space because of technical reasons , not because they were the best thing to use for growing .its called clever advertising by the ufo boys , but very misleading ( as it seems to of mislead you )
anyone who has been about a bit will tell you leds are not very good for growing ,I WISH THEY WHERE ID BE FIRST TO BUY ONE , but take a look around and you will see why there isnt one in my grow tent right now .maybe in the future but definately not yet.

peace

 

[la9]

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
imo

 

[Garden Knowm]

Yeah I have less than five posts, which means absolutely nothing. I have access to thousands of dollars of high end LED systems (from sunshine systems). I am currently documenting a grow involving approximately 800 watts of LED lighting. (two 300watt panels, and two ufo's). There have been problems with the grow, but its still too early to say what the yield will be. Trust me though, they do indeed work.

sweet... can you start a thread and send me a link

I ma very curious and interested

iloveyou

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

t h cammo show me one decent grow that has used led , otherwise i dont see what point your trying to make ? we all know that they have potential but just dont kick it at the moment price wise or growing wise , so what is it your actualy disagreeing with ?

 

[la9]

Seems to have quieted down, thank goodness.

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

The "rocket scientists" at N.A.S.A. seem to have a different opinion, or did you miss that little item when you did your research?

Do you really expect to jump in here and expect us to believe you know what you are talking about? You are as naive and misinformed as that friggin' liar, la9. If that's your best shot, I feel sorry for you. Maybe if you understood what the research was talking about, you'd be whistleing a different tune.


i think its time you did some research your very quick at jumping down peoples throat claiming they know nothing when actualy its you who knows nothing ...........this is quoted straight of nassa website
'NASA is already using SSL in its space farming systems. The reasons are quite simple: incandescent or fluorescent lamps are not efficient enough for such purposes, because they consume a lot of electrical power, generate heat and contain electrodes that burn out (maintenance costs are high). This is why NASA’s plant physiologists started to work with light emitting diodes (blue and red) to grow salad plants such as lettuce and radishes.

so yeah please come back when you have done some research and when looking at these advertisments try not being so gullible and look outside the box , the ufo boys cleverly say 'nassa use them in space ' but they dont tell you why .

 

[la9]

He's quoted that same paragraph in several threads.

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
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[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

quote ....At present
this is still an expensive technology, but in time LEDs efficiency will be maximized while prices reduced and these details are a good base for future planning. It is so far clear that in order to produce efficient LED grow light systems a lot of investigation is necessary. It is not enough to mount some blue and red LEDs on a PCB and say: “that’s it; we’ve got the plant growing LED system”. NASA created only a mechanism that delivers the minimum amount of light needed for some plants. For greenhouses on Earth other questions need to be answered: how much blue, how much red? What about the other colours, what about UV and IR? Should the light pulse? Should it be dimmed in the morning and evening to imitate natural conditions (sunrise and sunset?). Do plants need light at night? And the list remains opened.

 

[littlegrower2004]

for u who dont believe in led tech right now dont buy them simply stated...if u want to try something new that doesnt cost much in elect., undetectable from helicopters, produce higher resin buds, but dont yield as much as hps then give led a try otherwise get over the fact that ppl buy them and u cant stop that

 

[la9]

Yeah, people buy them, what does that have to do with you calling me every name in the book and saying that you hate me ? That has nothing to do with LED's or their sales.

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
imo

 

[littlegrower2004]

yeah ive called u like 5 names..boo hoo lets cry some more..and all i want u to do is leave my thread alone that has nothing to do with whether the light works or not

 

[la9]

5 names, whatever................

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
imo

 

[littlegrower2004]

hahahaahahahah

 

[ThE sAtIvA hIgH]

lol look at the latest thread in 'grow room design ' this is getting beyond a joke and needs an admin to look at the situation . btw its yet another thread started by someone with 1 post to there name ,advertising sunshine leds

 

[la9]

They must be getting paid or it's the owner of the company because they just don't give up. Like I said, we should change the rules to a 300 post minimum before you can saqy anything about LED's.

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
imo

 

[T.H.Cammo]

The truth is you need get your life together.

The truth is I know more about L.E.D.'s than you even thought about

The Truth is I know more about Electronics than you

The Truth is I know more about Electric than you

The Truth is I know more about growing than you
The truth is, some of that may actually be true. But since you are a liar who just makes stuff up why should anyone believe you?
The truth is, with all of that knowledge you claim to have it should be easy for you to explain yourself in technical terms and make us all look like a bunch of idiots. I've been wrong before and I would be glad to learn more about all those things that you claim to be so superior at. So quit hiding behind the vast knowledge that you claim to have and enlighten us - oh great one! Please enlighten us!

The truth is you talk smack on the computer about people because you lead a lonely life and are easily intimidated by others, and get pushed around and picked on,
The truth is, I talk smack about you because you are a liar and you're too big of a (explitive deleted) coward to show us some technical backup to what you say. Any baffoon can claim to be an expert in all phases of science - prove it. I say you're full of shit - prove me wrong, please! Let's have a debate, it seems to be that time in the political cycle. With all that technical knowledge you claim to have, surely you're not affraid to expose yourself to the good people of this board! So, what does anybody out there think, should we have a debate, I figure it's the only way to get this bonehead to shut up!

and the truth is this is the only place you feel safe enough to treat people with the same lack of disrespect that you feel you are treated with, when in reality it is your behaviour that causes people to treat you that way but you can only blame others and not yourself, why would it ever be your fault.
The truth is, I do feel an extreem "lack of disrespect" (didn't anyone ever teach you about double negatives?). Like I said before, I don't respect you enough to want your opinion or approval because you are a liar, you know it and I know it! That's all that really matters isn't it? You throw out all this psycho-bable crap to try and change the subject - but I ain't buyin' it. You are still a lying weasle who won't back up your point of view with an explaination. The truth is, it should be easy for you, with all that technical knowledge you claim to have. I'm calling bullshit on your whole story. You can psychoanalize me all you want - the truth is that you hide from all your lies like a frightened little baby because you are affraid to reveal that you have no technical expertese - go ahead prove me wrong, please! Go ahead - "do you feel lucky punk, do you?" Sorry, I couldn't resist throwing in a little "Dirty Harry".

I do apologize for that because I know it to be the truth and it is going to hurt, but hopefully someday you will realize it is true and change your ways and then you can have a prosperous life like most of us on this board.
How could you possibly know what my situation is, when you come to your senses even you will realize how stupid that sounds! Well, maybe not, you don't seem to have much in the common sense dept.

And now you claim to align yourself with most of the people on this board - that's rich! I'll tell you what - let's let the people decide who is out of line here - what do you say?.

and that is the truth.

Actually that's just the truth the way you see it. The way I see it is, anybody that isn't willing to back up what they say must have something to hide!

 

[la9]

Just keep posting your crap over and over again.

SUNSHINE SYSTEMS SELLS THE MOST UNRELIABLE LED JUNK AROUND
imo