First full on coco grow

Wastei

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I know a lot of people on forums like to consider themselves the “experts” who know all the tricks. If your like me then you have fucked up about every step along the way so your familiar w many a pitfall and symptoms to go along w them. Ya see friend I don’t give a flying rats ass if you think it’s nute burn or shit burn. Thank goodness we have friends like you to point out people like me as over eager idiots trying to get the biggest plants possible to impress their friends with. Your going to call me out on such insignificant bullshit that only exists because I didn’t feel like explaining that I’m familiar w nute burn as well as its symptoms cause I’ve burnt my share so I know. See now I’ve gone down the rabbit hole. Bottom line is you’ve interrupted the flow of REAL communication which these forums are based on. There’s a cocky headed sob in every bunch and I should be able to let it roll off. It’s hard.
anyways I have been doing some reading on coco and I’m not the babe in the woods as I may appear to be. I’m definitely not foolhardy enough to risk two successions to pay for the knowledge of the ins and outs of coco. I feel pretty confident with the advice/ information that the kind members of this forum have set fourth thus far. Sometimes it’s hard to get what your looking for w out starting at the very beginning so I apologize if I came across as clueless. ✌ And thank you and for the entertainment peace out dudes!
It's okay to act clueless starting out, we've all been there.

But I think you have to do like @myke suggested and step back and re-evaluate your situation. You don't have things figured out, your pictures shows this and by your interpretations and made up words.

Study proper pot sizing and watering frequency in coir. You do all the errors in the book. Using wrong equipment and improper techniques.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
It's okay to act clueless starting out, we've all been there.

But I think you have to do like @myke suggested and step back and re-evaluate your situation. You don't have things figured out, your pictures shows this and by your interpretations and made up words.

Study proper pot sizing and watering frequency in coir. You do all the errors in the book. Using wrong equipment and improper techniques.
Thank you for that advice. Will do.
 

Rurumo

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I read through some of the responses quickly but didn't really see where you said what nutrients you are using and your feeding schedule? My bad if I missed it. You really don't need to feed until run off until the roots have pretty much filled out whatever container they're in. Your plants looked really dry in some of those pics...just an fyi, but the EC of coco will skyrocket when it dries out, that's why everyone says to water daily-might not need much, but it must be kept moist at all times-think of it like the water dilutes the salts in the soil. So your leaf burn might not necessarily be from overfeeding, could be from letting your plants dry out, same net effect.
 

bk78

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Blumats huh....
Wait wait it just AMAZES me how folks can tell EVERYTHING about someone with such a small amount of information. “Don’t judge a book by its cover” does come to mind here. I guess now I know why I most always keep to myself. Figuring things out on my own has done me well IN SPITE MY EXTREMELY LIMITED amount of experience the community is certain of. Seems like for every real person I’ve come across on this forums there is some jackoff who just can’t seem to get the competitive virus out of their brain.
Balls to all you fucks! Judge me as you will and I will respond in kind. Judge not and this experience would have been the way it should have been. It RARELY fucking is though. I should have known better than to come on here and ask what I did. The very first response told me all I needed to know. Silly me figured what the hell let’s take it a bit further. WTFaaaaaak!!! I know better than that. Humans are pack animals. I’m just so fucking pissed at the assumptions. I really expected more humble and mature interactions. I’m no better but smart enough not to repeat this mistake again. Ignorant FUCKS!!
The very first pic you posted had burnt tips to the point even the serrated edges were burning. That’s how I made my assumption

no need to get so butt hurt over it really

maybe smoke one and chill?
 

Paratwice

Active Member
Fucking sweet. What do you have for led’s?
And yes YOU KNOW IM GOING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR MYSELF NOW! I do have a lot more plants than usual because the outdoor crop is mixed in there too.
I take back the nasty shit I said about you because I think it was very cool of you to humor me when you could of just ignored my ranting. I apologize if I had you pegged wrong and I mean that.
 

Paratwice

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I read through some of the responses quickly but didn't really see where you said what nutrients you are using and your feeding schedule? My bad if I missed it. You really don't need to feed until run off until the roots have pretty much filled out whatever container they're in. Your plants looked really dry in some of those pics...just an fyi, but the EC of coco will skyrocket when it dries out, that's why everyone says to water daily-might not need much, but it must be kept moist at all times-think of it like the water dilutes the salts in the soil. So your leaf burn might not necessarily be from overfeeding, could be from letting your plants dry out, same net effect.
That is a very good observation Thank you for your insights.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
The very first pic you posted had burnt tips to the point even the serrated edges were burning. That’s how I made my assumption

no need to get so butt hurt over it really

maybe smoke one and chill?
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Yes but you left zero alternatives other than implying that I was an over eager fool in over his head or some shit. And still you know what they say about ASSumptions? So don’t talk to me about butt hurt friend
 

bk78

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Fucking sweet. What do you have for led’s?
And yes YOU KNOW IM GOING TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR MYSELF NOW! I do have a lot more plants than usual because the outdoor crop is mixed in there too.
I take back the nasty shit I said about you because I think it was very cool of you to humor me when you could of just ignored my ranting. I apologize if I had you pegged wrong and I mean that.
Meijiu in the veg room and Meijiu in the flower room

I’m a china light lover, and there’s no changing me now

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Rurumo

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That is a very good observation Thank you for your insights.
Np, and here is a good thread that will help you understand why we treat coco like we do: https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuana-growing/growing-in-coco-coir/308425-the-chemistry-behind-coco-coir-a-strange-journey-from-ferts-bottle-to-to-buds?t=307683

I've seen some people here and other places grow trees in one gallon bags multifeeding coco 5-6 times per day on an automated system, it really is a neat medium, but for hand watering I think 3 gallon containers fed twice per day (by the time they fill out the container) is an easy and effective way to go.
 

Paratwice

Active Member
I read through some of the responses quickly but didn't really see where you said what nutrients you are using and your feeding schedule? My bad if I missed it. You really don't need to feed until run off until the roots have pretty much filled out whatever container they're in. Your plants looked really dry in some of those pics...just an fyi, but the EC of coco will skyrocket when it dries out, that's why everyone says to water daily-might not need much, but it must be kept moist at all times-think of it like the water dilutes the salts in the soil. So your leaf burn might not necessarily be from overfeeding, could be from letting your plants dry out, same net effect.
The coco being pre buffered (nutes) and too dry at the end. That’s very likely because I neglected them for a day and a half. Had to bring my daughter to hospital. Broken wrist so I literally didn’t even think about it. I’m used to cloning w aerocloner but needed more than would fit. so it was the Rockwool , domes etc.
Some people are very good at communicating ( me ... I suck) but you A+++
 

Paratwice

Active Member
It’s nice when someone ( mainly you and maybe one or two others) gives advice based on the here and now. Advice given in hindsight “take a step back, you very well may have big problems, there’s no such thing as a petered out leave, you have nute burn” all sentiments for the “your fucked cause your stupid start over dumb ass” are ALL COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT OPINIONS!! Thank you for not doing whatever the hell it was that pissed me off so much. I’m a very calm person normally. That link looks great! Again ty.
 
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