Is Biden really that bad?

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Roger A. Shrubber

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Not really. Shooting straight already contains the pun in question. Check your motives.
i get your point..all i can say in my defense is that I may make jokes, but i'm willing to sit down and eat with the same people i'm making jokes about, and i don't get all melty around the edges if they return fire...if you can't abuse your friends, why have any?
 

Fogdog

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Back to your usual, Trump. You have been trained well, but its you who is in a cult. Just look at what you defend when you are told to. Kids on the border, inflation, high gas prices, trannys in our schools, free for all on the border, IRS agents. Did you support covid lockdowns too? How about vaccine mandates? Is there any subject at all where you were able to think freely on your own?
laughing at you.

Fascists like GOP MAGA are scapegoating minorities and people who are different from them. It's classic fascist propaganda ploy. As you demonstrate, it's effective. But if that's all your kind do, and it is all that your kind are doing, voters will put your leaders out of office.

Covid lockdowns during a time when there was no vaccine, hospitals were maxxed out and morgues were out of space so they stored people's dead loved ones in refrigerator cars? I mean, yeah, lockdowns were the only tool we had to deal with it. Lockdowns were about slowing the epidemic so that the health care system didn't crash. They worked too. You don't remember any of that, do you?

Nobody was forced to get the vaccine. Employers were completely within their rights to make vaccination a requirement of work.

But all of that is in the past. All of that is not important. Your culture wars, your grievances over what the gubmint did (or what you believe they did, whether true or not). Not important. What is important today is this kind of news:

The July ’22 payroll report was way above expectations at 528,000 “net new jobs” created, with 471,000 new jobs created from the private sector. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration when I say that number turned a lot of heads and got a lot of people’s attention when it was released. That print was 2x what was expected for July ’22’s payroll growth and a lot of the Street was expecting slower growth and a higher unemployment rate.

But that won't achieve your getting your dictator back. So you whine about unimportant things.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
you're bad at puns...that was my only conscious motive :D
The nearest analogy I have is to the ethnic jokes of our youth. They were funny not because they contained a bigoted premise, but because that premise received some internal affirmation that, say, I concealed. Once I admitted it, the humor went away, but the bigoted component remained, more exposed and more easily worked on.

I see this instance as having the same sort of thing. The really sad part is that if humor at the expense of nondefault sexuality weren’t personal, I probably would have agreed.

That is why I am kicking at this gently, but still kicking. That bit of perceived humor is the camel’s nose in the tent flap imo.
 
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NYCBambu

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laughing at you.

Fascists like GOP MAGA are scapegoating minorities and people who are different from them. It's classic fascist propaganda ploy. As you demonstrate, it's effective. But if that's all your kind do, and it is all that your kind are doing, voters will put your leaders out of office.

Covid lockdowns during a time when there was no vaccine, hospitals were maxxed out and morgues were out of space so they stored people's dead loved ones in refrigerator cars? I mean, yeah, lockdowns were the only tool we had to deal with it. Lockdowns were about slowing the epidemic so that the health care system didn't crash. They worked too. You don't remember any of that, do you?

Nobody was forced to get the vaccine. Employers were completely within their rights to make vaccination a requirement of work.

But all of that is in the past. All of that is not important. Your culture wars, your grievances over what the gubmint did (or what you believe they did, whether true or not). Not important. What is important today is this kind of news:

The July ’22 payroll report was way above expectations at 528,000 “net new jobs” created, with 471,000 new jobs created from the private sector. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration when I say that number turned a lot of heads and got a lot of people’s attention when it was released. That print was 2x what was expected for July ’22’s payroll growth and a lot of the Street was expecting slower growth and a higher unemployment rate.

But that won't achieve your getting your dictator back. So you whine about unimportant things.
Keep bragging about jobs. Pretty soon he will have to create them, there are no old jobs left for people to go back to. Glad you like the mandates. My son still cant attend college I hope you are happy.
 

NYCBambu

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Silly democrats just dont understand, all these job numbers Joe brags about are fake. Bottom line is that the total workforce is still smaller than when Joe started. He does not get credit for recycling.....people returning to their old jobs.

The number of U.S. jobs jumped 528,000 last month, the Labor Department reported Friday, and the unemployment rate fell to 3.5% from 3.6%, matching a five-decade low. But that top line masks the drop in July of the labor force participation rate to 62.1% in July from 62.2% in June.
This is still far below the 63.4% labor force participation in February 2020, which translates to millions fewer people who would otherwise be working today compared to before the COVID-19 pandemic.

Jobless claims rose to 260,000 for the week of July 30, almost 6,000 more than the 254,000 recorded the week prior, according to the Labor Department.



 

Fogdog

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Summary / conclusion: Price inflation is clearly expected to moderate in the coming months with Treasury breakevens expecting 2.5% inflation rate over the next 10 years, the price of crude oil and gasoline falling and even used car prices have started to rollover (per the weekly Bespoke Report), but the labor market has clearly been strong and wages are clearly not weakening, which makes sense if you watch the JOLTS (job opening and labor turnover survey) report.

Price inflation is under control and dropping. JOLTS (job opening and labor turnover) report:

ECONOMY
Job openings top 11.2 million in July, well above estimate and nearly double the available workers

  • Available job positions in July totaled 11.24 million for the month, well in excess of the 10.3 million FactSet estimate.
  • That total also was nearly double the total pool of available workers, which stood at 5.67 million for the month.


Good new/bad news. More jobs than workers. Wages are going up while price inflation is moderating. This is not sustainable and wage inflation has economists worried. The fed is ready to raise its interest rates in September. Weaker companies that were propped up by low interest rates are going to start failing. This is going to suck for the workers for those companies but then again, there are plenty of job openings out there.

Powell warned that ongoing hikes likely would result in “below-trend economic growth and some softening in labor market conditions.”

“But such outcomes are likely necessary to restore price stability and to set the stage for achieving maximum employment and stable prices over the longer run,” he added.


This is what good governance looks like.

Thank you Brandon.
 

Fogdog

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Silly democrats just dont understand, all these job numbers Joe brags about are fake. Bottom line is that the total workforce is still smaller than when Joe started. He does not get credit for recycling.....people returning to their old jobs.

The number of U.S. jobs jumped 528,000 last month, the Labor Department reported Friday, and the unemployment rate fell to 3.5% from 3.6%, matching a five-decade low. But that top line masks the drop in July of the labor force participation rate to 62.1% in July from 62.2% in June.
This is still far below the 63.4% labor force participation in February 2020, which translates to millions fewer people who would otherwise be working today compared to before the COVID-19 pandemic.

Jobless claims rose to 260,000 for the week of July 30, almost 6,000 more than the 254,000 recorded the week prior, according to the Labor Department.



Yes, we know you want a crap economy so that Republicans can destroy our democracy.

Biden isn't cooperating. It's as if he hits a home run every day. 365 home runs in a single year is a record in any league.
 

NYCBambu

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Summary / conclusion: Price inflation is clearly expected to moderate in the coming months with Treasury breakevens expecting 2.5% inflation rate over the next 10 years, the price of crude oil and gasoline falling and even used car prices have started to rollover (per the weekly Bespoke Report), but the labor market has clearly been strong and wages are clearly not weakening, which makes sense if you watch the JOLTS (job opening and labor turnover survey) report.

Price inflation is under control and dropping. JOLTS (job opening and labor turnover) report:

ECONOMY
Job openings top 11.2 million in July, well above estimate and nearly double the available workers

  • Available job positions in July totaled 11.24 million for the month, well in excess of the 10.3 million FactSet estimate.
  • That total also was nearly double the total pool of available workers, which stood at 5.67 million for the month.


Good new/bad news. More jobs than workers. Wages are going up while price inflation is moderating. This is not sustainable and wage inflation has economists worried. The fed is ready to raise its interest rates in September. Weaker companies that were propped up by low interest rates are going to start failing. This is going to suck for the workers for those companies but then again, there are plenty of job openings out there.

Powell warned that ongoing hikes likely would result in “below-trend economic growth and some softening in labor market conditions.”

“But such outcomes are likely necessary to restore price stability and to set the stage for achieving maximum employment and stable prices over the longer run,” he added.


This is what good governance looks like.

Thank you Brandon.
So nevermind all the misery we experienced this past year, nevermind whats going on now. The forecast is strong, so just shut up and make due. ........And dont forget about Jan. 6th and those maga bastards. CRT, anarchy, and trans life forever.
 
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NYCBambu

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Yes, we know you want a crap economy so that Republicans can destroy our democracy.

Biden isn't cooperating. It's as if he hits a home run every day. 365 home runs in a single year is a record in any league.
I guess record inflation and gas prices is a home run in democrat fantasy land. So are record amounts of drugs and crime destroying our cities, another home run. How about the botching of covid policy? Free for all at the border, more home runs! In a year and a half Joe has run us into a recession, but democrats call this a home run.


Most democrats understand economics.

 

Fogdog

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Keep bragging about jobs. Pretty soon he will have to create them, there are no old jobs left for people to go back to. Glad you like the mandates. My son still cant attend college I hope you are happy.
Your son should have worked harder while in HS. But you are just whining. Junior College is not expensive and a good alternative to people with limited means. JC offers good alternatives to kids who don't want or need a four year degree.

I went to a Junior College for my freshman and sophomore years. Went to a four year for the last two. Worked my ass off. Graduated from college with a degree in Biochem. Debt free. There are plenty of options other than gold plated universities. Your son is going to have to work for it and might need help from you. Did you expect it all to be handed to you?

You are sounding stressed. This is understandable. Trying to make the Democratic Administration look bad when it is doing so well is like trying to keep the river from rising during a flood. Maybe you should take a Vicodin and go back to sleep.
 

NYCBambu

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Your son should have worked harder while in HS. But you are just whining. Junior College is not expensive and a good alternative to people with limited means. JC offers good alternatives to kids who don't want or need a four year degree.

I went to a Junior College for my freshman and sophomore years. Went to a four year for the last two. Worked my ass off. Graduated from college with a degree in Biochem. Debt free. There are plenty of options other than gold plated universities. Your son is going to have to work for it and might need help from you. Did you expect it all to be handed to you?

You are sounding stressed. This is understandable. Trying to make the Democratic Administration look bad when it is doing so well is like trying to keep the river from rising during a flood. Maybe you should take a Vicodin and go back to sleep.
Here in NY, even junior college is subject to vaccine mandates. Complete democrat payoff, under the table bullshit.
 

Fogdog

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So nevermind all the misery we experienced this past year, nevermind whats going on now. The forecast is strong, so just shut up and make due. ........And dont forget about Jan. 6th and those maga bastards. CRT, anarchy, and trans life forever.
The culture wars are a big mistake for the GOP. It makes the GOP MAGA fascist party seem out of touch. Actually not "seem". More like proves the party is out of touch.

It's probably too late to apply for this term, but here is a list of JCs for your kid to check out. Meanwhile, there are plenty of jobs available while he waits for the next term.

 

Fogdog

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Here in NY, even junior college is subject to vaccine mandates. Complete democrat payoff, under the table bullshit.
There are online degree programs for the medical science challenged. But, hey, there are plenty of jobs available nowdays. Sorry but I have no sympathy for somebody who expects it all to be handed to them. Not sorry, actually.
 
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