Kludge
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Yep, easier just to make a mother plant but it sucks if you have to move or lose power or something. Seeds really are the way to go to store your future plants in case of emergency.
g13 labs suck assholes
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VirginHarvester
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Not debating your success with DP seeds because overall I've had great results from theirs and Greenhouse. I have grown four fem'd skunk seeds from DP and one blew up into what I can only say was a true male. I left them alone at the site for about six days and came back to find one busted out in pollen sacks from top to bottom, full on male. A couple weeks later the females started flowering so I'm guessing one way or another it was just a real male plant. I'm not even upset about it, I suppose it happens. Interestingly, two of the females stayed female even after incredible stress and a lot of people think stress makes hermies out of fems. So with the exception of that one plant they have worked pretty well. As an example of stress and having stayed female, one of them fell off a two story balcony at around 1" tall and I had to go down and collect the jiffy cup, find the seedling in the grass and replant it. The stem turned purple and growth was really stunted for the life of the plant but it never hermied.
trapper
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i was just thinking out loud,no that cant be right,because im home alone.but what i was thinking is how many people get clones from dispenseries,and later decide to breed them never knowing if the original plant was a fem.i guess it would be thinking out loud because you people hear me.im finding the seeds i make take longer to germ then bought seeds for the most part.
Blaze happy
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Do you mind explaining in greater detail exactly why you shouldnt breed with fem seeds? a mate of mine bread a ton in the past and all offspring seem perfect???
What is supposed to be the outcome of breeding with a fem'd plant by you reasoning? Do they just not grow/lots of hermies etc.??
The way i see it the genetic makeup of a feminised skunk #1, and a plain female skunk #1 for example is EXACTLY the same, and as offspring are simply a product of the parents genetics, how could these two examples differ? ie. how does feminising change the genetics to make it not good for breeding?
Peace
What is supposed to be the outcome of breeding with a fem'd plant by you reasoning? Do they just not grow/lots of hermies etc.??
The way i see it the genetic makeup of a feminised skunk #1, and a plain female skunk #1 for example is EXACTLY the same, and as offspring are simply a product of the parents genetics, how could these two examples differ? ie. how does feminising change the genetics to make it not good for breeding?
Peace
Blaze happy
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Also, just wondering, why do you say that a plant needs to be stablised for 3-9 generations before breeding to avoid headaches? Why would this be better than say a F1 hybrid of two great plants (which have quite a bit of variation in siblings)?
You do realise that most seeds on the market arnt true breeding strains! why would it be not good to create an f1 hybrid of any of these great non true breeding strains?
Sorry for all the Qs, still learning all i can
Bubba Kushman
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I havent had a single problem with female seeds. Thats all I order anymore. At the bottom of every feminized seed page next to the price it says there is the possibillity of hermies and males. Thats how they cover their ass. If they were free you really shouldnt complain anyway. Sounds like a quality breeder to me if they agreed to send you more.
TigerHawk
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Who agreed to send you more? Did you complain to G13 labs directly, or just Attitude? Who are the replacements coming from?.... that's my question.
And I sure hope that the feminized G13 Labs Norther Lights that I got as a freebie from the 'Tude isn't the same strain as the one you've had a male from. I can tell right now that I don't think I'd EVER buy any of G13 labs beans. Free... sure.. but never gonna buy em.
And I sure hope that the feminized G13 Labs Norther Lights that I got as a freebie from the 'Tude isn't the same strain as the one you've had a male from. I can tell right now that I don't think I'd EVER buy any of G13 labs beans. Free... sure.. but never gonna buy em.
Blaze happy
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Im not a supporter of g13 labs, nor am i a hater.
However let me remind some of you that your talking about someones livelyhood, and a companys reputation here. Dont just go and slander a company straight up cause one of the FREE beans someone got was a male even though its supposed to be feminised..
Its blantly obvious that the reason theres a ton of free g13 lab beans floating around, is cause g13 labs know these particular beans arnt not good enough quality to sell..
Weather its cause they wernt stored properly, there old, they were fem'd wrong, exposed to moisture etc.etc. who cares.
So g13 labs decides to give away the dodgy stock instead of chucking em in the bin. Good on em, im glad i got some free beens, even if the quality isnt up there for every single free bean i got.
The thing im trying to say here is dont judge a company be the fact that they give away (for your benifit, not theirs) the dodgy beans they feel shouldnt be sold.
How many of you slandering this company have actually brought a packet of beans from g13 labs? The fellow above me hasnt, he like most of you are judging the quality of a companys product, on the products the company feels dont have enough quality for them to sell!!
If you had brought some of there seeds, and they were shit, sure go and bitch and winge about it.
But i think those of you judging this company on the fact that the shit they gave away for free you wouldnt pay for, are really quite ignorant.
Out of the 9 free beans sent, got 5 power skunk (4/5 germed), one other seed crushed in transit, and one seed sprouted, but the tip of the taproot was bent back and stuck in the shell somehow so it got tossed. So i got 6 healthy looking seedlings from 9 beans.
The thing is this is exactly what i expected from stock that is being given away. And you can bet your boots ill be checking dayly for hermies, cuase that wouldnt surprise me one bit from stock deemed not good enough to sell.
However let me remind some of you that your talking about someones livelyhood, and a companys reputation here. Dont just go and slander a company straight up cause one of the FREE beans someone got was a male even though its supposed to be feminised..
Its blantly obvious that the reason theres a ton of free g13 lab beans floating around, is cause g13 labs know these particular beans arnt not good enough quality to sell..
Weather its cause they wernt stored properly, there old, they were fem'd wrong, exposed to moisture etc.etc. who cares.
So g13 labs decides to give away the dodgy stock instead of chucking em in the bin. Good on em, im glad i got some free beens, even if the quality isnt up there for every single free bean i got.
The thing im trying to say here is dont judge a company be the fact that they give away (for your benifit, not theirs) the dodgy beans they feel shouldnt be sold.
How many of you slandering this company have actually brought a packet of beans from g13 labs? The fellow above me hasnt, he like most of you are judging the quality of a companys product, on the products the company feels dont have enough quality for them to sell!!
If you had brought some of there seeds, and they were shit, sure go and bitch and winge about it.
But i think those of you judging this company on the fact that the shit they gave away for free you wouldnt pay for, are really quite ignorant.
Out of the 9 free beans sent, got 5 power skunk (4/5 germed), one other seed crushed in transit, and one seed sprouted, but the tip of the taproot was bent back and stuck in the shell somehow so it got tossed. So i got 6 healthy looking seedlings from 9 beans.
The thing is this is exactly what i expected from stock that is being given away. And you can bet your boots ill be checking dayly for hermies, cuase that wouldnt surprise me one bit from stock deemed not good enough to sell.
TigerHawk
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That's right dumb dumb, I am judging on QUALITY.... why and what else would I be judging on? That's what it all boils down to. QUALITY! Talk about IGNORANCE, you must've smoked the wrong shit before coming in here and talking that smack and judging yourself. The reason why "I" wouldn't buy their shit... is because when you see ENOUGH bad feedback on their some of their various products you tend to want to go with other brands/breeders with much better track records.
QUALITY = Good reputation = Will use that product again!
If its a really shitty product and cannot be used at all.... its rendered USELESS! And that means... I rather not be sent garbage, free or not!
QUALITY = Good reputation = Will use that product again!
If its a really shitty product and cannot be used at all.... its rendered USELESS! And that means... I rather not be sent garbage, free or not!
i would guess that they are giving away free seeds just to get their name out there more... as a newer seed company.
personally i don't like their lab name choice, as i've already seen some of the confusion caused by their naming their company after a particular mary jane strain. i've had to ask before, "ok, are we talking about the weed or the seed company?"
also, there are different niches to occupy. perhaps they will help to fill the 'lower cost seeds' niche. I've purchased the cheapies before. now i tend to go for the very best i can find reguardless of price, but i am certainly NOT opposed to giving their free seeds a try, as i am doing so right now.
personally i don't like their lab name choice, as i've already seen some of the confusion caused by their naming their company after a particular mary jane strain. i've had to ask before, "ok, are we talking about the weed or the seed company?"
also, there are different niches to occupy. perhaps they will help to fill the 'lower cost seeds' niche. I've purchased the cheapies before. now i tend to go for the very best i can find reguardless of price, but i am certainly NOT opposed to giving their free seeds a try, as i am doing so right now.
la9
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Tell us all how you know they are giving them away because there is something wrong with them ? No where did I see on the free ones that they are lesser quality than what you would buy.
If it was my company I'd be giving away the top notch seeds to show the quality of my product. I'd want people to be happy with what they were getting and not trying to get rid of poor quality crap. If they give me crap seeds there is no way I'm going to order from them in the future. If they are building a reputation, giving crap seeds and pissing peple off certainly isn't the way to do it, unless they possess some secret marketing skills I don't know of.
My guess is attitude has way too many sitting on the shelf because no one is buying them so to get rid of them so they don't go to waste they gave them away as an incentive for you to order from them and hopefully buy other seeds with your order. Therefore you would be getting standard seeds.
All I read about is crap seeds from G13 until the big attitude all you pay is shipping sale, then you had everybody defending them because they couldn't be getting a bad deal on those terms could they ?
sandman4a69
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I am pretty sure these are the same are they not?
https://www.seedboutique.com/store/index.php?manufacturers_id=34
https://www.seedboutique.com/store/index.php?manufacturers_id=34
how can anyone of you blame the whole g13 labs of trickery, when you did have just ONE problem with ONE seed? feminized seeds arent absolute females, thats why are they called feminised, they used to be called female seeds, but that wasnt true... and to the top of all this, if you did get these powerskunk seeds as freebies... they are NOT feminised at all http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/g13-labs-power-skunk-2973-p.asp see?
i really dont like people like you... fucking off someone just because of YOUR dumbness...
i really dont like people like you... fucking off someone just because of YOUR dumbness...
i dont want to see how pretty is your girlfriend if you were pretty sure with this
i was trying to find them elsewhere, but with no success...
thedoctorzoidberg
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this post is retarded. absolutely retarded.
thedoctorzoidberg
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if i buy a pepsi and it tastes like milk.... i complain. if i bid on a house and the owner wants me to paint it blue... and i paint it red.... not good for business. some guy here says not to slander a companny over one bad bean... well when you only get 5 from em and one is bad that 20% fail for them. the plant was %100 male, no female flowers at all.... this will never happen if the seeds are feminized, you will ONLY get herms and females.... p.s. the second batch of seeds they sent me, becuase i was right, were all good.... which lowers it to %10
you dont get it? still not? im not flamer, i never was, but you make me crazy...
"feminised" doesnt mean 100% of females (or hermies), its fact, that these seeds have no male chromozomes (im not sure if in green world is it called "x" too) but if these flowers do not have PERFECT conditions, very few amount of them will turn to males (exactly they ARE hermies but with no female flowers)
"feminised" doesnt mean 100% of females (or hermies), its fact, that these seeds have no male chromozomes (im not sure if in green world is it called "x" too) but if these flowers do not have PERFECT conditions, very few amount of them will turn to males (exactly they ARE hermies but with no female flowers)
johnny5fingers
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I have some G13 Labs seeds on order. I cant say anything about the quality yet.
My general rule is I dont complain about something that is given to me for Free.
My general rule is I dont complain about something that is given to me for Free.
Bubba Kushman
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I would wait and make sure its a male! I almost hacked a Purple #1 because it looked like yours. It was tall like a male too so I took it out of my grow room and two weeks later nothing had changed. It turned out to be female. So be sure before you hack it!