There Is No Devil.

[shroomer33]

The fact that Israel would be back in their land that they lost almost 2000 years ago - self fulfilling prophecy.

You try to start your own country. Let me know how that goes.

The prophecy given to Daniel from Gabriel that gave the EXACT day that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey - says who?? CNN? Fox news? Or are you tyring to prove the bible WITH the bible?

maybe a bit of circular reasoning, but that prophecy was written in the Septuagint in 300BC, and if Jesus did ride into Jerusalem on that day, that is pretty impressive, and shows the author of the writing is outside of the time domain.

The hundreds of prophecies concerning Jesus's birth, life, and death - see above

I'll give you that one. My reasoning, in this case, is too circular for my own satisfaction. But, if indeed everything happened as recorded in the NT, then the prophecies are way too much to ignore.

The fact that technology would 'evolve' that could destroy all life on the planet - Wow that was a hard one to guess

Who else speculated that the entire world could be destroyed at the hand of man? Anyone? I don't think so. And yes, that was a hard one to guess. Back then they didn't even have Newtonian mechanics, much less quantum mechanics. They didn't even know about microorganisms. So yes, it was a hard one to guess, and nobody outside of the Bible even thought that man could destroy the world.

The 7 letters to the 7 churches that Jesus gave John in Revelation. Jesus laid out all of church history from about 100AD to today - again you are using the bible to prove the bible which means your proof is fictional.

NO. I am looking at the history of the Church over the last 2000 years. It just so happens that the history of the church was laid out, exactly as it happened, in Revelation.

Please tell me you can come up with better arguments then that.

Oh yeah. I can come up with some really good ones.

Here's the short version of one:

Encoded behind the text of Isaiah 53 is the entire crucifixion scenario, names and all. What makes this amazing is that Isaiah 53 (OT) is describing the crucifixion. It is only with the advent of computers are we able to see such writing. Hence, the text of the Bible has a component that is multidimensional in nature and beyond human capability to write. This is another example of the Bible predicting the future hundreds of years before it happened.

 

[shroomer33]

Oh my lord, where to begin? You've made quite a mess while i was gone.



Hindsight is the entire folcrum upon which the entire religion rests, isn't it?
There was no prophecy of Jesus. The OT spoke of a messiah. Many many times. But not of Jesus. Not a word for him. The people of the time never heard of Jesus. The NEW scrolls show that much, but either way, any real word of Jesus came AFTER him, so that's a no go.

The ride into jerusalem is a JOKE sir. That story was written DECADES after the event (which never happened). See how easy it becomes to write a good story if you have hindsight. The entire NT is hindsight sir.

Do you not see that?

Were you there? Neither was I. Is there any hardcore scientific proof either way? Nope. I guess I'll take it on faith that it did happen and you'll take it on faith that it didn't. We both can come up with real facts that back up our beliefs about what happened back then. What it comes down to is faith in our individual beliefs.....BUT
like I said before:

In the end. There is no denying the truth.
And that goes for me as much as it goes for you.

 

[CrackerJax]

Yah, I guess I'll base my one life on the belief that other people with this OUTRAGEOUS story all written AFTER any events took place, are telling me the truth.

I take my take by simply looking at the facts of the bibles time lines , not what is IN the bible. The bible has some great stories, but that is all they are. Stories.

You need to look up the annals from the Essene monastery. The fact that you cannot process any information which does not already align itself to your belief, means something. I'll let you come to it on your own. It means something. Check out the new scrolls that are for the very first time right on top of the life of Jesus. You should be thrilled!!!!! You should be....

 

[shroomer33]

Yah, I guess I'll base my one life on the belief that other people with this OUTRAGEOUS story all written AFTER any events took place, are telling me the truth.

I take my take by simply looking at the facts of the bibles time lines , not what is IN the bible. The bible has some great stories, but that is all they are. Stories.

You need to look up the annals from the Essene monastery. The fact that you cannot process any information which does not already align itself to your belief, means something. I'll let you come to it on your own. It means something. Check out the new scrolls that are for the very first time right on top of the life of Jesus. You should be thrilled!!!!! You should be....

Can you post a link to the stuff you are talking about.
First and foremost, I am a scientist. Show me all information out there. I am pretty sure that I understand what you are saying about Qumran though, but I will certainly look at what you post.

 

[CrackerJax]

Follow this link. Just like my name there is a prize.

http://www.library.flawlesslogic.com/tarsus.htm

 

[cbtwohundread]

devils dead...............................jah lives

 

[jenni8675309]

Yes, and the church's favorite game is getting you to believe such nonsense, and then part you from your $$$.

I think its funny how the man who hates Jesus, also mourns a child molester.

 

[marijuana2468]

I think its funny how the man who hates Jesus, also mourns a child molester.

haha, so true
yes you crackerjacks... thousands of posts, all bs
fuck off get a life loser

 

[kho20]

i love how every one wants to be free to make a choice but if everyone else dont choose what you want then thier instantly wrong ... but hey its your choice to be bigamistic an i respect that everyones thier own.... the only thing i will promote is that "there's no love like ganja love"

 

[CrackerJax]

I think its funny how the man who hates Jesus, also mourns a child molester.

I think it is quite appropriate and in tune with my logic.

Neither the Bible nor the cases against MJ has any proof. They must therefore be false. The justice department agreed with my process of thought.

Whereas you need no such proof! You have already condemned him without the benefit of damning facts. This goes in line with your thought processes with the Bible too. You don't desire proof......you just smash everything into your perspective regardless of how flimsy the evidence, if it is there at all.

We are both consistent. Only one of us is using logic however.....

PS... I don't hate jesus. he doesn't exist.

 

[robert 14617]

cj i think there was a guy named jesus ,but as far as him bringing someone back to life after being dead three days i have to call BS,and mj him paying off the first child's family who accused him that in my mind is a confession

 

[CrackerJax]

Take away the Bible as a reference and there is no Jesus. Truly examine the Bible and the same conclusion is inevitably reached....again. No Jesus. People don't really want to look, there's the rub. They just want the blanket of comfort, even if it is false.

 

[robert 14617]

the romans kept records there are no mentions there?

 

[CrackerJax]

None. None at all, although the church has gone to great lengths to make connections they are flimsy at best. Surely the King of Kings would have been BIG BIG news, and yet, nothing.

The Romans were real paper pushers too. Nothing escaped their detail.......

 

[robert 14617]

you are right cj the best i found were (possible ref. or assumed writings)

Extrabiblical, Non-Christian Witnesses to Jesus before 200 a.d.

 

[CrackerJax]

Certainly there would be a mention of his upheaval in jerusalem, the center of information gathering in that sector.... MYTH.

 

[shroomer33]

I think it is quite appropriate and in tune with my logic.

Neither the Bible nor the cases against MJ has any proof. They must therefore be false. The justice department agreed with my process of thought.

Whereas you need no such proof! You have already condemned him without the benefit of damning facts. This goes in line with your thought processes with the Bible too. You don't desire proof......you just smash everything into your perspective regardless of how flimsy the evidence, if it is there at all.

We are both consistent. Only one of us is using logic however.....

PS... I don't hate jesus. he doesn't exist.

There is no proof for either supersymmetry or extra dimensions. Does that mean that neither exist?
Just because we don't have the proof in our hands at this moment, that doesn't mean that the proof doesn't exist.

 

[CrackerJax]

There is no proof for either supersymmetry or extra dimensions. Does that mean that neither exist?
Just because we don't have the proof in our hands at this moment, that doesn't mean that the proof doesn't exist.

I want you to re read your own post twice.... slowly...out loud to yourself. If you haven't seen the problem, let me know.

 

[shroomer33]

Take away the Bible as a reference and there is no Jesus. Truly examine the Bible and the same conclusion is inevitably reached....again. No Jesus. People don't really want to look, there's the rub. They just want the blanket of comfort, even if it is false.

I never wanted a blanket of comfort. I wanted the truth. I was quite happy before I knew how true the Bible really was, but there was no truth anywhere else. I could not ignore that.

Not all people who believe in a higher power do it because it makes them comfortable.

Your ignorance is overwhelming, and your logic is quite flawed. Have you even taken a class on logic, or read a book on logic?

 

[shroomer33]

I want you to re read your own post twice.... slowly...out loud to yourself. If you haven't seen the problem, let me know.

Done. Can't see the problem. Enlighten us with your amazing mind.