Get a Harvest Every 2 Weeks

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iwir3d

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Thats what I ment. Altho couldnt you just grow 1/2 the plants? Since your going to be harvesting the same amount then? Just more areas and then the lights could be in middle of 2 areas? The point is to try and harvest weekly as aposed to bi-weekly. Tho it's not much of an advantage, your right. Hell if you had the space you could harvest daily.. lol j/k Math would tell us are eletric bill would be so high you could say it was stoned itself.. lol

well I was curious to see what people said but I see the problem now.
 

kochab

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so in the same thinking, if you need 30 clones on this particular setup then you could take 15 rooted clones and start flowering every week to get half a pound every week. could you not?
i mean take half as many clones to hold each week @ each table and double the amount of tables right?
 

VictorVIcious

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Here are some pictures for you. Marty, it should be simple enough if you read the beginning of this thread. Al keeps about ten mothers for this operation. He recently purchased a new 400watt mh light for them. You will need about twice that for sixty clones. They idea is to take large clones.
These are pictures of my room on 9/30. VV
 

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martyshoemaker

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Nice VV, looking good. Thanks for taking over the questions of this thread btw. Another question was that I am prob going to be using the aeroflo2 60 site AeroFlo2 60 site I am going to have 4 of these and use the same method here just switching the resivors to the different stages of weeks. The measurment is about 10' x 7' for all four. so question 1) they are not 8" pots, they are 3" pots, yet the roots hang down w/ room, thats how aeroponics work (I'm sure you knew that). Is that going to be a prob? Hopein not. 2) since the sq feet is similar to 4 4x4 trays, I am going to use 2 1000w HPS lights on movers to light them. Will this be enough to cover and light the 240 plants at a time?
 

freddyeverready

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Was just about to ask a very simaler question to this..
If i was to use a 4" pot aerponic system instead of the 8" pot flood and drain system, considering i'd be doubling up on how many plants was in the op how much lighting would i need ?

Thankyou.
 

VictorVIcious

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You need potroast or fdd for questions about those system. No 2-1000watt lights even on light movers is not going to be enough. Garden Knome would be another good one for that size of operation or widow. The growing surface for those tables in 6' by 5'. That is about the max you will get for coverage with a 1000watt light. My suggestion would be 3-600watt lights or equivalent for every two tables not the 1000 watt. Page 26, Indoor Marijuana Horticulture, Jorge Cervantes. 1800 watts of power instead of 2000. More usable light because you can get them closer to the plants. I use t-5 4'-8 tube fixtures. I believe the are more efficient and I know there are less heat issues. Jury is still out for yield. VV
 

potpimp

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Man this is some of the BEST info I've seen here or anywhere else. I'm gonna get my sister to give you a BJ!! :) Thanks Al!!
 

potroast

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Well, for simple light-wattage calculations, you can use watts/sqft of canopy. You want to have at least 50w/sqft, so for your 6x5 area, you'll need at least 1500 watts over it. Better would be 1800-2200 watts, so those 2 1000's will be good, for each 6x5 area. And since you're moving them, coverage will be even better.

I did a grow op just like this several years ago. We used the AeroFlo and had 256 plant sites and 8 1k lamps, and could've used more light. It was a lot of work for 3 guys, so you're going to need a lot of help.

Hope This Helps :mrgreen:
 

potpimp

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Yeah, tending to about 100 plants per person would be almost a full-time job!! I can't believe how much of my time my little grow is taking, checking the pH, adjusting the pH, checking the nutes, unclogging the hoses, making sure the water and air is coming out, making sure the lights are the right height above the plants, making sure the air and water temp is within reason, changing the water every week and doing it all again. But I love it and I'm gonna have some blueberry in two months!!
 

welshspencer

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I wouldn't attempt this op in soil. The amount of soil required for one tray would weigh about 100kg- even before you wet it.

SoG relies on growing a larger number of smaller plants- or rather, just the top few feet of a natural plant. That means you need LOTS of pots- and a lot of growing media. Rockwool is practical when you need a large number of pots because it's lightweight, cheap, sterile and easily disposable. Fresh, sterile media each time eliminates soil-borne diseases.



You'd be better off closer to about 12 well-trimmed SoG style plants under a 430. However, bigger lights produce more bud weight. Each of your harvests out of your 12 plant rotation will be 3 plants. If you're getting 1oz a plant, you'd be doing pretty well. Not sure what you'll get with just a 430. I get about 1/2-3/4oz per plant with 1000W lights, but can do better with more attention to the op. I told you I was a fricken lazy stoner. ;)

Do you mean one 430 light over the 12 or two 430
 

welshspencer

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Hi all

I was looking at the DIy section under Grow FAQ.. looking at the ebb and flow system.

it has a filldrain and a overflow fitting. looking at the picture can someone please tell me if the black and blue part is the overflow as this looks like a end of hose fitting? or if it is the other little blue one, it seems low to be the overflow..


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VictorVIcious

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Hey welsh, not sure what you are referring to. If you are talking about the flood and drain table I posted the only difference in the two fitting is whats on top of the table. The overflow is 6" tall and the flood fitting just has a screen to stop debris from going into the reservior. Must not be though cause all of mine are black. VV
 

VictorVIcious

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The one that looks like a hose would fit on it is the fill fitting. You attach the line from the pump to it. The overflow is just open at the bottom. Best way to find out about using the cfl's is to read a few journals from folks that are using them. Compare thier sp[ace and number of plants to yours. VV
 

Altair Everex

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at what point does the cost of the xtra lights not outweigh the gain in density? like u want atleast 50watts/sqft, 75watts/sqft would be better, but is there a number which u dont gain enough to warrent the xtra lights?
 

welshspencer

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Thanks VV


So the drain one is at the bottom? so it seems the water starts to drain down the overflow as soon as it starts filling up. on others i have seen the overflow is about half way up the drain tank. and only starts draining when the water gets to that height..???

I noticed that some people on this system use a air stone like the one shown on this forum and others do not like the one below


Simply Hydroponics - System types

regards
 

VictorVIcious

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The water drains back the same way it got there. When the pump shuts off it drains back through the line from the pump into the reservoir. The over flow drain would only be used if you overfill the table. I had to hold the fittings and look at them to understand how these are supposed to work. I kept wanting the overflow to be the drain, which isn't the case. Here is a pix showing the flood and overflow fittings or should I say Drain and overflow fittings. When the pump turns off gravity takes over and the water drains back into the reservoir. VV:hump:
 

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