Democrats are now talking about the FED also

hazyintentions

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[video=youtube;3lu8i5uhngc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lu8i5uhngc[/video]
Prepare for liberal disownment.....


I don't agree with this man's view on the Keynesian model but I do understand Obama's action don't fall completely under the Keynesian model because he deosn't spend enough. Go figure, at least this guy realizes the FED is bad. I might like this guy for his morals. We shall see what google unearths..
 

mame

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Kucinich didn't have a bad solution to fixing the Fed - by putting it under control of the US treasury the central bank would make it more effective at serving it's dual mandate. As of now, there are too many dissenting voices within the fed that serve the interest of the banking industry at the expense of the people... Which is why the Fed has been so timid in it's role with the economy.
 

deprave

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Kucinich didn't have a bad solution to fixing the Fed - by putting it under control of the US treasury the central bank would make it more effective at serving it's dual mandate. As of now, there are too many dissenting voices within the fed that serve the interest of the banking industry at the expense of the people... Which is why the Fed has been so timid in it's role with the economy.
you had me untill the last sentance...anyway I can't believe you said something like this, your waking up also?
 

mame

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you had me untill the last sentance...anyway I can't believe you said something like this, your waking up also?
I've always said more transparency and accountability is needed within the Federal reserve; My opposition has always been to ending the Fed, putting it under control of congress, or going back onto a gold standard.
 

NoDrama

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The fed has been timid in its responses? The fed has lent over $16 TRILLION in the last 2 years to prop up the system. You think that's Timid? Yeah WTF, why not just increase the amount of Dollars in the system by 100 fold, don't see anything wrong with that......
 

UncleBuck

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The fed has been timid in its responses? The fed has lent over $16 TRILLION in the last 2 years to prop up the system. You think that's Timid? Yeah WTF, why not just increase the amount of Dollars in the system by 100 fold, don't see anything wrong with that......
$16 trillion is a lot, it seems like the cost of my loaf of bread should have gone up even more.

*checks around*

nope, i paid $0.99 for it the other day, same as i did two years ago

*shrugs*
 

hazyintentions

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$16 trillion is a lot, it seems like the cost of my loaf of bread should have gone up even more.

*checks around*

nope, i paid $0.99 for it the other day, same as i did two years ago

*shrugs*
Where are you buying bread from? The average cost of a loaf of bread around here is $2 and over, your lucky to find a loaf for $1.50 on sale unless we are talking about the white white bread made from tons of processed crap.
 

dukeanthony

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Where are you buying bread from? The average cost of a loaf of bread around here is $2 and over, your lucky to find a loaf for $1.50 on sale unless we are talking about the white white bread made from tons of processed crap.
If your paying more than a buck fifty your overpaying

I get store brand around here for 1.29
 

mame

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Where are you buying bread from? The average cost of a loaf of bread around here is $2 and over, your lucky to find a loaf for $1.50 on sale unless we are talking about the white white bread made from tons of processed crap.
Where I live the cheap bread is still 99 cents a loaf... I usually do the 2 for $5 deal on bread but I always get the expensive stuff with oats and shit in it and it's pretty much always been 2 for $5.
 

dukeanthony

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With all the power Big Oil has NOW
Imagine all the Power they will have if Ron Paul gets elected

When OIL was 140 a barrel we paid around 4 bucks for a gallon of gas

Now oil is what? And how much are we paying for a gallon of gas?
 

NoDrama

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$16 trillion is a lot, it seems like the cost of my loaf of bread should have gone up even more.

*checks around*

nope, i paid $0.99 for it the other day, same as i did two years ago

*shrugs*
The 16 trillion was lent to foreign countries. The Arab Spring started because the straw that broke the camel's back was high food inflation.

Check the weight of your $.99 Bread. Does it weigh the same amount as the $3 bread? Is it made from the same ingredients? Have you noticed any difference in your weekly grocery bill at all over the last 10 years? Or do you not keep old grocery receipts so you can compare?

There will always be $.99 bread, but 10 years from now it will probably be half the size it is now. I have noticed many products are the same price but have less product in them. Deceptive marketing. Paying the same for less is no different than paying more for the same.
 

dukeanthony

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The 16 trillion was lent to foreign countries. The Arab Spring started because the straw that broke the camel's back was high food inflation.

Check the weight of your $.99 Bread. Does it weigh the same amount as the $3 bread? Is it made from the same ingredients? Have you noticed any difference in your weekly grocery bill at all over the last 10 years? Or do you not keep old grocery receipts so you can compare?

There will always be $.99 bread, but 10 years from now it will probably be half the size it is now. I have noticed many products are the same price but have less product in them. Deceptive marketing. Paying the same for less is no different than paying more for the same.
Uhmm yeah its the same pound and a half loaf of sliced white bread I eat everyday. I can buy the ALDI's or Pick and save bread or spend 3 bucks on sarah lee. Tastes the same to me
 

NoDrama

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Uhmm yeah its the same pound and a half loaf of sliced white bread I eat everyday. I can buy the ALDI's or Pick and save bread or spend 3 bucks on sarah lee. Tastes the same to me
I wasn't asking you, hence the quote. Any information you have to give is viewed in a suspect light, you already told us that
I get store brand around here for 1.29
so you couldn't possibly be trying to say that your $1.29 bread costs $.99
 

dukeanthony

New Member
I wasn't asking you, hence the quote. Any information you have to give is viewed in a suspect light, you already told us that [/B][/B] so you couldn't possibly be trying to say that your $1.29 bread costs $.99
ALDI's store brand is .99 or less We shop at Pick and Save, Walmart super Center and sometimes ALDIs

Walmart Super center is .99 or less also

ETA
Aldi is a small discount warehouse store. It is not an outlet store and does not sell outdated or rejected products. They offer a double your money back guarantee for all of their products. If you don’t like it, they will give you your money back plus a new item. The foods are mostly Aldi brand foods. The Aldi brand is usually very good quality. I have only had one or two items where my family preferred the name brand over the Aldi brand.
The savings are significant. On a lot of items, I can save $1 or more over the price at a regular grocery store. Here's an example: Chocolate chips at the local supermarket cost $1.99. Aldis regular price is .99. White bread in the supermarket costs $1. Aldis bread costs .59. Whole grain bread costs $2.59 in regular grocery store, but Aldi's regular price is $1.29.​

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Walmart 20 oz loaf 1.18

ETA 3
pick and save 16 oz Loaf white or wheat .89
 

UncleBuck

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The 16 trillion was lent to foreign countries. The Arab Spring started because the straw that broke the camel's back was high food inflation.

Check the weight of your $.99 Bread. Does it weigh the same amount as the $3 bread? Is it made from the same ingredients? Have you noticed any difference in your weekly grocery bill at all over the last 10 years? Or do you not keep old grocery receipts so you can compare?

There will always be $.99 bread, but 10 years from now it will probably be half the size it is now. I have noticed many products are the same price but have less product in them. Deceptive marketing. Paying the same for less is no different than paying more for the same.
i have noticed that with some products, where the quality seems to deteriorate. i stop buying those things.

bread i use pretty sparingly. if i am going to make grilled cheese, i buy the expensive loaf ($2.29 or so) that grills up better and has all the grains in it. but for utilitarian purposes (hot dogs, sandwiches, burger) i use the cheap bread.22.5 oz (1 lb 6.5 oz, not quite 1.5 pounds)

i just looked and there are different ingredients, the only preservatives or bad seeming shit listed on mine but not hers were the last two: calcium propionate and ammonium sulfate.

i'm pretty sure the latter sounds like poison... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_sulfate
 
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