The Future Now!

[TillthedayiDIE420]

LED Grow Lights will:

• Put a lot of light on a small space
• Reduce power consumption
• Cut your maintenance costs
• Replace noisy lights and ballasts
• Complement existing HPS lights
• Replace fluorescent and incandescent grow lights
• Reduce heat output

LED grow lights combine the gentleness of fluorescents with the growing power of HIDs. Our lights are warm to the touch. Our lights have a recommended useful lifetime of 50,000 hours for red lamps- the equivalent of 18 hours a day, 365 days a year for seven years and seven months.

WHY LEDs MAKE BETTER PLANT LIGHTS

Plants do not use all parts of the spectrum equally. This is because photosynthetic pigments like chlorophyll and carotene absorb light very strongly at particular wavelengths. Using the right colors in the proper proportions, nearly any desired spectrum may be produced with LEDs.Here is a graph showing how the spectrum of LED Grow Lights is very close to that of the absorption spectrum of chlorophyll, a plant's primary energy collecting pigment. Also, the peak of the spectrum of our red grow lights coincides with the peak of the photosynthetic response curve. This ability to match spectrums allows LEDs to produce light that plants can use very efficiently.​

These are the lights of the future, im going to do numerous test's on these and collect information to figure out maximum yeilds and see if they truly work.
i did not write the info above i copyed it from this site:
LED Grow Lights.com Home Page

Here is another website on LED lights:
LED Grow Lights for Plants and Planet

(this is good for user's who are paranoid about cost of electric bill and cops etc.. these are very low-key)

who else is with me i already know a couple people who are interested. I think you could make a Big grow op with these without the worries of cops, cost, heat. They are perfect. They are a bit costly for LED's but im buying alot of them.
You can also put them meer Inch's away from the plants, near no heat.
The spectrum that they use is unlike HID's a SUPERhps light bulbs, they dont produce massive heat, and use a meer 9 watts per bulb, they plug into a normal light bulb socket and use no ballast.
This is the perfect future weapon for those involved in the war on drugs.
Basicly undetectible, no power spikes. If you used 100 of them thats 900watts... you get the idea.

- Here are some Results - (regular plants)

Cherry Tomatoes
These were grown from seed under our LED Grow Lights

TIP: Increasing the amount of blue light can help contain trailing, sprawling or aggressive plants

http://www.ledgrowlights.com/images/tomplants040329.jpg
Vines from 2 plants, each in 12-inch pots.

If they grow tomato's like that they can grow pot.

Here is a Side by Side compairason HIDvsLED.

HID - HPS/MH -

LED LIGHTING

These lights are better then i thought.

there are some pictures of these Tiny lights that pack a punch.
Im picking some up AsAp.



ttdid420

 

[Garden Knowm]

Hey TILL..

please keep us posted.. this interests me GREATLY!!!

 

[TillthedayiDIE420]

O im going to, im picking a set up as soon i can! if they do what they say they can... one 9watt LED light is the same as using a 250HPS or MH.....
but the penetration isent the same, but thats why you put them on every possible angle so the whole plant gets light.

9watts that = 250watts HID power....

so if i had twenty 9watt LED lights... thats 5000watts of HID power using only 180watts so its drawing less then one 250watt but its using the same power as 20 250watt HPS bulbs....
this is extremly good results, the spectrums are perfect match for photosyn... meaning its going to use all the blue that the LED lights give, and all the red it gives... HPS bulbs give off a Yellow Spectrum.. and very little red.... LED lights give basicly 100% red spectrum.... no other lights can do what these LED lights can.

But since the light does not penitrate.... im going to use 400watt HPS and then the LED lights, this combination should work flawlessly.... i cannot wait

 

[MightyBuddha]

I thought about doing the same as above to compliment my 400W HID but the price seems so prohibitive still.http://www.led-grow-master.com/gardeningproducts.html

 

[leafwrapper]

yea still too expensive for me to risk it

 

[TillthedayiDIE420]

yeah its pricey, but the Spectrum is more important then the intensity... LED give the right spectrum so really there would be no reason to "risk it" since it has grown tomato's in the pics above.... tomato's are way harder to grow then weed....

 

[green_nobody]

sounds a lot like the marketing of a good salesman, gone first believe in this if i see someone growing with the stuff successful. and by the way, i read a few days a go a article at work about led's in future with an interview in with the head of research of osram, hope you knew that company, the make the best cfl's you can buy for money. he stated in this interview that it will take another 5 to 10 years until led will be able to compete with the power of currently available high end lights such as even cfl's. getting it? so i wait a bit longer and stick to in my HPS meantime if you don't mind

 

[leafwrapper]

yeah its pricey, but the Spectrum is more important then the intensity... LED give the right spectrum so really there would be no reason to "risk it" since it has grown tomato's in the pics above.... tomato's are way harder to grow then weed....

lol hps gives out the right spectrum too whats ur point?


im just sayin im not gonna risk it till they are more out there and more data available.

 

[green_nobody]

and the lifeexpactency i don't buy at all, the 3 or 5W LED in my surefire broke down after year of on and of use and for sets of batteries, so not even close to the 15,000h the granted for it. and i got no replacement since the "don't give garanties on bulbs" so somuch to surefire by the way

 

[RichardDawson]

Yes,

Here is more info for your L.E.D. studies.
Based on documents obtained from General Electric and research done, here are the specifications for the 1000w Lucalox grow lamp.

1000 watts total rated output
-730 watts output in IR range(heat)
270 watts yielded as plant growth light

Of that 270 watts, 162 are in the white light range (primarily yellow and green) which is inefficiently used by plants. the other 108 watts of light energy is supplied for general plant growth on high efficiency wavelengths.

Thus the total growing energy of the 1000watt bulb is a measley 124 watts per bulb ( 108 direct energy + 16 low efficiency).

 

[TillthedayiDIE420]

sounds a lot like the marketing of a good salesman, gone first believe in this if i see someone growing with the stuff successful. and by the way, i read a few days a go a article at work about led's in future with an interview in with the head of research of osram, hope you knew that company, the make the best cfl's you can buy for money. he stated in this interview that it will take another 5 to 10 years until led will be able to compete with the power of currently available high end lights such as even cfl's. getting it? so i wait a bit longer and stick to in my HPS meantime if you don't mind

k dude, there talking about the watt's LED lights only use 9watts per fixture, but the spectrum they give is alot better then ENY HID lamp... nothing compairs to the spectrum value of a LED. By the way plants need the right spectrum for certain stages... Veg - Blue LED's - Maximum blue spectrum Flower - Red LED's - Maximum red spectrum... HPS bulbs give off bairly eny red spectrum, Mostly yellow.... if you were to compair CFL's To LED's.... CFLS would be killed in that compairison.... LED's produce spectrums compaired to a HID lamp... except the spectrum is better...

as you can see in the spectrum picture.... the chlorophyll and the LED spectrum are Very close to being the same..... which means very good growth.

I could grow a nicer plant with LED lights then i could a HPS... but using them both would be better... i have my HPS lamps... but these LED lights seem to be a future light, its stealthy and produces the same or better yeilds then a HPS... you can run 1000watts HPS.... and run 20 9watt LED lights which is 180watts did you not read that?!?!!? the output is 5000watts.... but only costing you 180watts..... say you had 100 9 watt LED lights... 900watts... with a output of... 25000watts, with no wasted light.... so you could grow alot of plants with same or bigger yeild.... with 90% cost reduction on your bill.

CFL's suck that guy needs to learn his shit again... get it?

 

[mogie]

Sounds like a snake oil salesman sold you some potion that will cure everything. Those guys are always around. Be careful.

 

[green_nobody]

Yes,

Here is more info for your L.E.D. studies.
Based on documents obtained from General Electric and research done, here are the specifications for the 1000w Lucalox grow lamp.

1000 watts total rated output
-730 watts output in IR range(heat)
270 watts yielded as plant growth light

Of that 270 watts, 162 are in the white light range (primarily yellow and green) which is inefficiently used by plants. the other 108 watts of light energy is supplied for general plant growth on high efficiency wavelengths.

Thus the total growing energy of the 1000watt bulb is a measley 124 watts per bulb ( 108 direct energy + 16 low efficiency).

so if i read this right you say they suck, right? so lets wait a bit longer before trying them

 

[RichardDawson]

so if i read this right you say they suck, right? so lets wait a bit longer before trying them

i am not saying that LED suck i am stating the facts of energy used in a 1000watt GE grow bulb. A general factoid about energy used in HID lighting.

 

[green_nobody]

k dude, there talking about the watt's LED lights only use 9watts per fixture, but the spectrum they give is alot better then ENY HID lamp... nothing compairs to the spectrum value of a LED. By the way plants need the right spectrum for certain stages... Veg - Blue LED's - Maximum blue spectrum Flower - Red LED's - Maximum red spectrum... HPS bulbs give off bairly eny red spectrum, Mostly yellow.... if you were to compair CFL's To LED's.... CFLS would be killed in that compairison.... LED's produce spectrums compaired to a HID lamp... except the spectrum is better...

as you can see in the spectrum picture.... the chlorophyll and the LED spectrum are Very close to being the same..... which means very good growth.

I could grow a nicer plant with LED lights then i could a HPS... but using them both would be better... i have my HPS lamps... but these LED lights seem to be a future light, its stealthy and produces the same or better yeilds then a HPS... you can run 1000watts HPS.... and run 20 9watt LED lights which is 180watts did you not read that?!?!!? the output is 5000watts.... but only costing you 180watts..... say you had 100 9 watt LED lights... 900watts... with a output of... 25000watts, with no wasted light.... so you could grow alot of plants with same or bigger yeild.... with 90% cost reduction on your bill.

CFL's suck that guy needs to learn his shit again... get it?

you don't get it. this guy for once knows his shit and is all about lights and is on of the leading researcher on LEDs from industry side, and he said that comercially build LEDs still can't give the water even to cfl's, so how should the compete with my HPS. did you copy it now. LEDs suck ass for the next 5 to 10 years and so does the ones you appealingly bought yourself there. been shitted by someone who can sell an Inuit a freezer

 

[TillthedayiDIE420]

lol hps gives out the right spectrum too whats ur point?


im just sayin im not gonna risk it till they are more out there and more data available.

LOL HPS dont "gives" ... GIVE out the right spectrum... let me show you... *sigh* nubs....

HERE IS A SUPERHPS.... LOOK LITTLE RED MORE YELLOW...

HERE IS A MH BULB...

NOW LED LIGHTS (RED LED LIGHT) MORE RED... in flower you want more red then enything...

http://www.ledgrowlights.com/images/charts/LED-CHL.jpg

that shows both the blue and red LED lights... Get it yet? spectrum has more to do with growth then accual wattage... more watts more penetration...

 

[TillthedayiDIE420]

you don't get it. this guy for once knows his shit and is all about lights and is on of the leading researcher on LEDs from industry side, and he said that comercially build LEDs still can't give the water even to cfl's, so how should the compete with my HPS. did you copy it now. LEDs suck ass for the next 5 to 10 years and so does the ones you appealingly bought yourself there. been shitted by someone who can sell an Inuit a freezer

DUDE... your a idiot stfu now. dont argue with shit you dont even know.

 

[green_nobody]

i am not saying that LED suck i am stating the facts of energy used in a 1000watt GE grow bulb. A general factoid about energy used in HID lighting.

so in terms of a conventional edison type glow bulb, well for sure, they give away 95% of the power in heat and about 5% in light. but a HPS has a far higher ratio in terms of radiating light for power...

 

[RichardDawson]

Green,

How hot do your Hps bulbs get?
How hot do your MH bulbs get?
Where do you think that heat comes from?

The heat comes from Infared energy given off by the bulb.
where does that energy come from?
oh yeah it comes from the total energy output of your bulb.
there for using less energy for actual light.

 

[leafwrapper]

LOL HPS dont "gives" ... GIVE out the right spectrum... let me show you... *sigh* nubs....

HERE IS A SUPERHPS.... LOOK LITTLE RED MORE YELLOW...

HERE IS A MH BULB...

NOW LED LIGHTS (RED LED LIGHT) MORE RED... in flower you want more red then enything...

that shows both the blue and red LED lights... Get it yet? spectrum has more to do with growth then accual wattage... more watts more penetration...

lol poor kid, hps gives out the spec. of light that plants can use for flowering and use it well this is not debatable froob. i know u think leds r better well good for u show us some pics of the led grown buds. im wiping my ass with this now