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browniesnblunts

Active Member
ph is not an issue in clone. ph affects nute uptake not water uptake.
ph has had an affect on my clones SS. I don't know why, but it has. My common sense tells me that water that is too acidic or too alkaline has an adverse affect on the clones. I always check my ph in my cloner and keep it at 5.8. Just what I have experienced. :bigjoint:
 

oceangreen

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To anyone thinking of running this system. it is not for the noob!

you really have to know your stuff... and be a good builder as well.. if you want to do it properly. there are many factor to having this operate successfully

building the system with no leaks, being able to build it well, having a chiller setup with manifold ability, correct nute schedule, having the proper pump timers.

having a veg room and flowering room, drainage capability in room, and a few more I have not added.

so approach with realism.

I recommend Sqydro's RUCDWC hybrid system if you are new.

regards
 

chunkylonin

Well-Known Member
Bump,its so sad to see a once lively thread become silent.You know stink I understand you got mad about the book but closing your site and making it hard for the ones who uses your system or are starting out on your system sucks.Not to mention I donated money to your site right befor you closed it you might remember me sending you a pm asking if you recieved it,should have kept the money and just bought the book.
 
Let's talk a little bit about air quality.

The plants don't need fresh air, they need CO2.

Having to keep your temps down and bringing in fresh air can all be solved by going to CO2 and a dehumidifier system.

CO2 lets you run higher temps so you don't need to vent as often. Temps can be controlled by A/C.

The only thing you will have to worry about is humidity. Solved by a dehumidifier or vent fan.

I know, you can't afford all this right away. That's OK. You can add as you grow.

Start with vented hoods and vent them outside the room. I vent into my attic. Then when you can afford CO2, you will only have to hook up the input of the fan to draw air from outside the room.

You need plenty of oscillating fans in your room to keep the air circulated well. The leaves of your plants should be moving at all times.

Temps:
With CO2, day 85, night 75
Without CO2, day 75, night 65

Humidity:
60% during early flowering
50% during late flowering

Tips for controlling heat:
Keep your ballasts outside of your grow room.
Run your lights at night.
Install a wall A/C unit
First of all - Thank you so much for this thread, Stink. I believe I found a link to it while looking for info. about the "maxi" line of nutrients.

This quote from page 6 or 7 contains information about one of the things I really can't seemto completely wrap my head around. And that is: How do I vent (for any reason) a room or tent without removing the CO2? Well the first few sentences of your post above cleared up the majority of my confusion; "...The plants don't need fresh air, they need CO2. Having to keep your temps down and bringing in fresh air can all be solved by going to CO2 and a dehumidifier system..."
That is so cool!
So, you also addressed humidity saying that
"The only thing you will have to worry about is humidity. Solved by a dehumidifier or vent fan. Though, I assume a fan - even if only kicking in at a set humidity - will evacuate the CO2 in the for the duration that it is on, right?

My main question now about the CO2/Sealed room/Venting situation is this: What about
smell? If I have to run a carbon filter with an inline fan 24/7, then how do I go about arranging this?
I can think of two possibilities at the moment, which may be wrong:

1) Would be: If you have your room sealed and have the heat from the lights being vented via fresh air input from another room, and exhaust into a different room/outside (as you suggest), then could you use a 'Y' adapter for the ducting -- in writing this I realized that the carbon filter would be in the room...so it would still be pulling air AND CO2 from the room... never mind that idea :/

2) Would be: If you're using a tent inside of a room, I guess you could just have the carbon filter & fan combo outside the tent but in the room to scrub any smell, right?

3) I just imagined this picture of a solution that I think I saw in a "urban grower" youtube video of a sealed room. And that is: Just run your carbon filter & fan combo inside the sealed room...just sat there...upright, on the ground. Lol, problem solved..?

Any suggestions are really appreciated.
Thanks guys.

I'll continue reading the thread later on :)

EDIT: Q: In the third "scenario" above (3)), would/is a carbon filter running in a sealed room going to remove or "scrub" the CO2 out of the air/room?? ..Newb.. hah

Thanks.
 

Gyroscope

Well-Known Member
@ inspired333
I don't think Stink comes around here anymore. I could be wrong and maybe he will to prove me wrong. Come on Stink, this guy needs you !!

The answer to 2 & 3a is yes you can do that.

3b. No it will not take your CO2 out.
 

guy incognito

Well-Known Member
First of all - Thank you so much for this thread, Stink. I believe I found a link to it while looking for info. about the "maxi" line of nutrients.

This quote from page 6 or 7 contains information about one of the things I really can't seemto completely wrap my head around. And that is: How do I vent (for any reason) a room or tent without removing the CO2? Well the first few sentences of your post above cleared up the majority of my confusion; "...The plants don't need fresh air, they need CO2. Having to keep your temps down and bringing in fresh air can all be solved by going to CO2 and a dehumidifier system..."
That is so cool!
So, you also addressed humidity saying that
"The only thing you will have to worry about is humidity. Solved by a dehumidifier or vent fan. Though, I assume a fan - even if only kicking in at a set humidity - will evacuate the CO2 in the for the duration that it is on, right?

My main question now about the CO2/Sealed room/Venting situation is this: What about
smell? If I have to run a carbon filter with an inline fan 24/7, then how do I go about arranging this?
I can think of two possibilities at the moment, which may be wrong:

1) Would be: If you have your room sealed and have the heat from the lights being vented via fresh air input from another room, and exhaust into a different room/outside (as you suggest), then could you use a 'Y' adapter for the ducting -- in writing this I realized that the carbon filter would be in the room...so it would still be pulling air AND CO2 from the room... never mind that idea :/

2) Would be: If you're using a tent inside of a room, I guess you could just have the carbon filter & fan combo outside the tent but in the room to scrub any smell, right?

3) I just imagined this picture of a solution that I think I saw in a "urban grower" youtube video of a sealed room. And that is: Just run your carbon filter & fan combo inside the sealed room...just sat there...upright, on the ground. Lol, problem solved..?

Any suggestions are really appreciated.
Thanks guys.

I'll continue reading the thread later on :)

EDIT: Q: In the third "scenario" above (3)), would/is a carbon filter running in a sealed room going to remove or "scrub" the CO2 out of the air/room?? ..Newb.. hah

Thanks.
2. Yes. I have a sealed room with 3 tents in it. I have a fan constantly pulling air out of the top of all 3 tents. I have a fan with a carbon scrubber sitting in the room outside the tents running 24/7.

3. Yes. Exactly what I do.

3b. No it does not.
 

guy incognito

Well-Known Member
if you have a properly sealed room you dont need odor control.
I know my grow isn't 100% sealed. I tried, but smells need only the tiniest miniscule hole to waft through. Plus if a cool tube explodes, or a duct tears or something I don't want my cool tube fan to suddenly start venting the un filtered air from the room towards my neighbors. The scrubber seems to control the smell well enough that I can enter/leave the room without the whole house smelling. When the scrubber is off a lot more smell leaks out when I open the door.
 
Good to see ya here keepin the noobs in line, SS lol

listen to this guy fellas he knows his stuff!
I grow the best shit I've ever had from what I learned from SS
you can do it too
dont overthink it
keep it simple


bullshit how things have turned out with Stinkbud
I dont know what all happened, dosnt matter now anyway
your here helping and thats good for anyone wantin to grow
I'll help when I can
 

superstoner1

Well-Known Member
very few were actually using stinks recipe, it was way too high. most were using mine and it is posted in my thread, my 3 stages of flower
 

GanjaAL

Active Member
Thanks SS... glad to see some stuck around. I tried the DWC but I could not keep the roots healthy. I find that alot with those who are in Cali... big difference if you live in a cooler state. Thanks again and I will check it out. Just looking for a back up full line of organics to keep it simple.
 

dvsdsm

Well-Known Member
3 years later this system is still rock solid. I use a variant of my own, keeping with the veg style setup instead of pvc or fence posts for flower. Pics coming soon. Nute wise I've been on the Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow and Bloom (Hydro Version) Liquid Karma, and CN17 with Sweet citrus during end of flower. Can't speak highly enough about Aero, it's shitting on everything else in my 7 years doing this.
 

dvsdsm

Well-Known Member
She's like clockwork, All i gotta worry about is pests. The insect and relative clipping kinds ;) I haven't even checked Ph and TDS in over a year it runs so well. I would however state that Stinks nutrient Formulas' were a lil on the hot side and i run about 3/4's recommended dosing for Nirvana's White Widow, Green House Seeds Trainwreck, and about 1/2 strength for Big Buddha Cheese, and it's fire and forget. Had some aphids that gave me some ugly leaves for about a week this run, hit them with SM90 got a lil leaf burn, they completely recuperated now and on week 5 veg, changing em over to 12/12 tomorrow.
 

Mont@n@

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She's like clockwork, All i gotta worry about is pests. The insect and relative clipping kinds ;) I haven't even checked Ph and TDS in over a year it runs so well. I would however state that Stinks nutrient Formulas' were a lil on the hot side and i run about 3/4's recommended dosing for Nirvana's White Widow, Green House Seeds Trainwreck, and about 1/2 strength for Big Buddha Cheese, and it's fire and forget. Had some aphids that gave me some ugly leaves for about a week this run, hit them with SM90 got a lil leaf burn, they completely recuperated now and on week 5 veg, changing em over to 12/12 tomorrow.
cool avatar...
 

907

Member
Yo there SS, quick question. How is your mini split AC treating you? I am getting ready to get me one and drop the air cooled hood set up. Fill me in brother? Peace 907
 

superstoner1

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907, minisplit is by far the best piece of equipment for indoor growing available. i now do not air cool my lights and bud density and overall yield is looking fantastic. and absolutely no loss of enviroment, after being off for 12hrs my co2 level in flower room will only be dropped by 100-150ppm.
 
907, minisplit is by far the best piece of equipment for indoor growing available. i now do not air cool my lights and bud density and overall yield is looking fantastic. and absolutely no loss of enviroment, after being off for 12hrs my co2 level in flower room will only be dropped by 100-150ppm.

Which unit did you wind up with SS?
I think I remember you having trouble finding one that would
work well with an external unit turning it off and on... or somthin like that. bongsmilie
 
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