Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
Got a pic of my vac set up. Just gotta buy some high pressure tubing. This chamber is thick as fuck. And has two on/off valves. One glass one on the chamber and a metal one in the line. This thing sucks!
 

ENDLSCYCLE

Well-Known Member
Your pad looks chill Dank....sweet ass floor!!!!
That floor done up in Uv paint, blacklights and strobes, and horrible electronica blasting in the background would make a chill roll spot...lol


***edit*** oh yeah, nice chamber too
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
thanks nope just boiling water few baths stirring and spreading and letting sit over the heat
I never find that this gives a clean enouh purge. It is very inexpensive and simple to do and the results set your wax above the rest. Patients keep asking for my wax over others because of the cleanliness due to the purge. It would make that beautiful oil even better.
 

str8sativa

Well-Known Member
maybe your not doing it right. there is no need for a vac purge i have seen lab results with no residuals using vector and hot water purge from DAN KONE on this forum anf from another local friend. the only thing i would say a vac would be better if you wanted to keep it as oil or shatter. all you need is patience just takes time high heat and agitation and i think if you can crumble your budder to look like kief or gold dust like grains of sand, its pure as it can be just like loose trichs. and dont be to proud of patients wanting your oil over others in az 90% of the wax or oil i have seen i wouldn dare smoke. lets see a pic of yours? we should do a taste test
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
maybe your not doing it right. there is no need for a vac purge i have seen lab results with no residuals using vector and hot water purge from DAN KONE on this forum anf from another local friend. the only thing i would say a vac would be better if you wanted to keep it as oil or shatter. all you need is patience just takes time high heat and agitation and i think if you can crumble your budder to look like kief or gold dust like grains of sand, its pure as it can be just like loose trichs. and dont be to proud of patients wanting your oil over others in az 90% of the wax or oil i have seen i wouldn dare smoke. lets see a pic of yours? we should do a taste test
Go back and look at my end results I get a wax whenever I want I have been making wax for almost three years now and have refined my.techniques from where you are now to a better cleaner product . Who tests your wax for impurities? Just because it crumbles and waxes does not mean it is clean. Go read this whole thread and other shot from matt rize or cannabineer about isomerization and vac purging. Actually if you read what they talk about in Cali and pnw then they actually say the shatter is the most pure not wax. I guarantee I could taste the tane of your wax and I have made and seen a lot of waxes shatters and oils. Plus I don't get how you would even know a difference especially since you have never vac purged. It seems more like you are just lazy and repeat what other have said instead of actually experimenting yourself, but hey that's fine.
 

str8sativa

Well-Known Member
Go back and look at my end results I get a wax whenever I want I have been making wax for almost three years now and have refined my.techniques from where you are now to a better cleaner product . Who tests your wax for impurities? Just because it crumbles and waxes does not mean it is clean. Go read this whole thread and other shot from matt rize or cannabineer about isomerization and vac purging. Actually if you read what they talk about in Cali and pnw then they actually say the shatter is the most pure not wax. I guarantee I could taste the tane of your wax and I have made and seen a lot of waxes shatters and oils. Plus I don't get how you would even know a difference especially since you have never vac purged. It seems more like you are just lazy and repeat what other have said instead of actually experimenting yourself, but hey that's fine.
lol your just repeating what you have read in this forum about shatter being better and vac purging, its mostly preference and shatter is a step less in refinement so i dont see how it could be more pure. if i want shatter i just dont agitate as much and do long hot baths and would be left with the golden shatter, but for budder just reheat after could be left as shatter and stir. you can taste the tane? lets see i wanna try yours, and for god sakes man get something better then a turkey baster. and matt rize makes bubble and does nothing but talk shit about bho unless its his magical shatter lol RIZE UP dude. and i didnt say i got mine tested for residuals DAN KONE did in cali.

AZ MED TESTING IS BS i know this i first publicly exposed STEVE on this forum on accident thanks to MATT RIZE actually he is the one who figured it all out and doesnt even know the shit storm he created for STEVE. i posted a wax test from AZ MED TESTING on here that was 98.3% thc thinking it was legit. no one believed me when i had actually paid thirty bucks for a gc potency test MATT RIZE contacted STEEP HILL LAB and said what is this shit, they then called STEVE and said wtf mate? you spelled compound compund in two places and how is this stuff 98.3% and total active cbds 1001,(az med testing is some how affiliated with SHL)
STEVE said the test was altered which is not true to make him self not look like a complete idiot, and discredit me. but as you know how AZ MED TESTING rolls they steall your money and tell you your shitty bud is 20% thc. FOLKS this is common practice for STEVE in ARIZONA FROM AZ MED TESTING has been going on for years have put him on blast multiple times and he is still doing it. he refunded my friend hundreds of dollars after the whole SHL owner calling him. but tried to bitch at my friend first because i put private info on the internet being the test results which were wack. just had to explain it one more time i know its long nut irieie and alot of people in az already know this
 

irieie

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lol your just repeating what you have read in this forum about shatter being better and vac purging, its mostly preference and shatter is a step less in refinement so i dont see how it could be more pure. if i want shatter i just dont agitate as much and do long hot baths and would be left with the golden shatter, but for budder just reheat after could be left as shatter and stir. you can taste the tane? lets see i wanna try yours, and for god sakes man get something better then a turkey baster. and matt rize makes bubble and does nothing but talk shit about bho unless its his magical shatter lol RIZE UP dude. and i didnt say i got mine tested for residuals DAN KONE did in cali.

AZ MED TESTING IS BS i know this i first publicly exposed STEVE on this forum on accident thanks to MATT RIZE actually he is the one who figured it all out and doesnt even know the shit storm he created for STEVE. i posted a wax test from AZ MED TESTING on here that was 98.3% thc thinking it was legit. no one believed me when i had actually paid thirty bucks for a gc potency test MATT RIZE contacted STEEP HILL LAB and said what is this shit, they then called STEVE and said wtf mate? you spelled compound compund in two places and how is this stuff 98.3% and total active cbds 1001,(az med testing is some how affiliated with SHL)
STEVE said the test was altered which is not true to make him self not look like a complete idiot, and discredit me. but as you know how AZ MED TESTING rolls they steall your money and tell you your shitty bud is 20% thc. FOLKS this is common practice for STEVE in ARIZONA FROM AZ MED TESTING has been going on for years have put him on blast multiple times and he is still doing it. he refunded my friend hundreds of dollars after the whole SHL owner calling him. but tried to bitch at my friend first because i put private info on the internet being the test results which were wack. just had to explain it one more time i know its long nut irieie and alot of people in az already know this
i am much more familiar with what happened with steve and az med testing than you are aware. i did not know you were the one with the bullshit test claiming and posting it up on here. that explains your attitude and naivety. az med testing was a joke from the begining and so is steve. steve kept on trying to get my partner and i to run a co2 extraction setup that he had. my buddy wanted to but i said no because i dont think they are trust worthy. too close with ingrid and elements. if you know what happened recently then you would say the same. just the fact that you went to az med testing at all speaks volumes. if you have ever contacted some of the more well established testing facilities in cali then you wold find out that it costs more to actually do the test (not including profit and overhead) than az med testing is charging. anyone who has done theri research would never even consider giving them any money at all. so you did a great service to the uninformed who were too ignorant or too stupid to realize az medtesting was bullshit from the begining. so basically you are going by someone elses results to see if your wax still has contaminants, that sounds real scientific and great for your patients. do you work at that ghetto head shop in mesa at main and dobson? or do your buddies because i have seen their shit and they say the same bullshit as you about no purge blah blah blah and their shit does not look or smell good.

oh and whats wrong with a turkey baster i used it for many runs until i got my custom blown boro silicate tube, i still use the turkey baster when i wanna make tiny batches of bho. it is super effective and made with the right materials. and yes a seasoned oil smoker can taste the tane in an unpurged batch of oil.oh and if you think matt rize doesnt make bho then that shows how even more ignorant you are.

and the shatter vs wax debate does not only go on here. are you familiar with northwest green thumb? personally i prefer a gooey wax to anything else it has a nice look and is easy to handle and dab. it takes some care to slowly work and heat to bring your oil just to the stage before it becomes a crumble. this i do after i have vac purged. you can also vac purge your oil until it waxes up with some strains. have you ever seen wax with holes in it like swiss cheese. that was waxed up in a vac chamber. only heating too much will stop the isomerization process.
 

str8sativa

Well-Known Member
no i dont work there lol and we have met and you said you liked my herb. i have a multi step purge process which i bet is just as clean as your vac purged method. and if he said he did minimal hot water purging, then i assume that with alot it would be the same. and i gave my buddy some to get tested because he said he gets it for cheap i didnt know where he would be testing. and whats a lab in az that has legitimate results? and i said matt rize talks shit about bho... which is true and that only his bho is the shit. and i bet you could not taste tane in my wax
 

biglungs

Active Member
i have gdp trim that turns to dry crumbly wax ON ITS OWN. i just leave the pyrex in the sun and its crumbly the next day. from my experiences shatter/glass is made when the oil is purged at a very low temp dry crumbly is made from purging using very hot water some people use boiling water i just turn my hot water heater up a bit. gooey oily stuff is usually made from trim with too many water leaves present or from older materials and the trichomes have already started to degrade
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
no i dont work there lol and we have met and you said you liked my herb. i have a multi step purge process which i bet is just as clean as your vac purged method. and if he said he did minimal hot water purging, then i assume that with alot it would be the same. and i gave my buddy some to get tested because he said he gets it for cheap i didnt know where he would be testing. and whats a lab in az that has legitimate results? and i said matt rize talks shit about bho... which is true and that only his bho is the shit. and i bet you could not taste tane in my wax
Is this your first screen name. I have a buddy that grows wifi. What bud did you show me? If you tell me when and what I saw I'll prob remember you.
 

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
Your doing one step after shatter to make budder and its over purging it. Degrading the terpines. It loses potency over time. If your melting the trichs off. Shouldn't it be amber like trichomes? Not yellow? Nothing on my nugs is the color of that budder. But my errrrl is see through amber. You can see the art on the bottom of my dish when it's full of errl.
 

irieie

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Your doing one step after shatter to make budder and its over purging it. Degrading the terpines. It loses potency over time. If your melting the trichs off. Shouldn't it be amber like trichomes? Not yellow? Nothing on my nugs is the color of that budder. But my errrrl is see through amber. You can see the art on the bottom of my dish when it's full of errl.
I like the consistency of a wax more than a shatter. I used to make shatter until I chipped a piece into my eye. Let me tell you it was not fun. I agree about wax degrading terpenes and I like that because it mellows out the taste a bit and does not kill ur lungs as much. It def does degrad faster but I can't seem to hold onto any for this to be a problem. Also I don't like to harvest with much amber I like my trichs cloudy for the most part so even before I purge and whip, the oil has a much lighter more golden color. All of these points are personal preference.
 

str8sativa

Well-Known Member
Your doing one step after shatter to make budder and its over purging it. Degrading the terpines. It loses potency over time. If your melting the trichs off. Shouldn't it be amber like trichomes? Not yellow? Nothing on my nugs is the color of that budder. But my errrrl is see through amber. You can see the art on the bottom of my dish when it's full of errl.

then why is kief gold?
 

dankshizzle

Glassblowing Moderator
I guess it's more for when your making oz of errl more than just a couple grams. When you have a large crop every 3 months and you make enough oil to last you that three months you don't want a degrading product that after a couple weeks is a powder.
Your right it is personal preference. And my preference is to have a strongest longest lasting products. Isn't whipping it stirring the butane into your product? Mixing the waxes in.
 
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