Spin-Out for Chemical Root Pruning

Alexander Supertramp

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I'm not hyping anything. I'm stating a simple fact. What does anything you've just posted have to do with the statement at hand? You expect people to just to accept what you say as if it comes from the mouth of god because you've been posting for 12 years, sounds like a pretty childish argument to me. The truth still remains hydro grows faster than soil in optimum conditions. It's just a scientific fact. "If you can do this.... go for it"? how old are you 12?
How many hydro grows do you see around here that are even close to 'optimal'?
 

Alexander Supertramp

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Hahaha electrolytes... Hell yes! This is the first forum I joined and quite recently! I have however been a medical merijuana patient since 1996 and grew up in northern Cali bay area. thus I have seen first hand hundreds and hundreds of grow rooms and outdoor scenes. This site is excellent! I have never been able to find strain info that is picture provin... People around here have gotten into a rut and grow such a small selection of genetics it is sad! Vertigons are the big in thing around here.... I like a nice small horizontal garden. And I really enjoy organic grading and creating an ecosystem. Much like having a reef aquarium :) I am also interested in learning how to push the boundaries with regards to plant growth/ production and ecofriendly gardening. Hydroponics has shown a huge savings in water and nutrient consumption as compared to conventional row ag.

My undergraduate degree is in biology, however my masters is marine bio and unfortunately not horticulture : ) My understanding is thus; enregy is neither made nor destroyed. A system, be it plant or animal, consumes a quantity of energy and then uses said energy to preform a verity of functions. When plants are grown hydroponically the root system is much more efficient then the root system of a soil grown plant. This is because of the abundance of oxygen, water, and nutrient in the solution/surrounding media. No soil can accomplish this ideal. A system saves energy when it doesnt have to work as hard to gather said energy. This is exemplified by the prolific growth of plants utilizing NFT and aeroponics (a very minuscule root system providing for a very large amount of foliage and fruit/flower). This savings in energy is transferred to growth in foliage/fruit.

Yep, conservation of energy. A soil grower can conserve as much energy as a hydro grower. NFT, very small root zone with great returns when tuned in. Industry standard IMO. 2 qts. of dirt can produce comparable results.


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skunky33

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How many hydro grows do you see around here that are even close to 'optimal'?
That's not what's in question. What's in question is Uncle Ben's comment "Soil is just as fast if not faster than hydro. Depends......" Which is plain bullshit. You say nobody on RIU can't grow hydro. So you're saying Ben is right? This feels like a clique in high school..
 

inhaleindica

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That's not what's in question. What's in question is Uncle Ben's comment "Soil is just as fast if not faster than hydro. Depends......" Which is plain bullshit. You say nobody on RIU can't grow hydro. So you're saying Ben is right? This feels like a clique in high school..
Oh shut up already. I have had soil grow finish in 53 days when they should finish 63 days normally. It depends how great everyting is. Enviroment, air, light, nutes plus more. Like he said "Depends".
 

skunky33

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Oh shut up already. I have had soil grow finish in 53 days when they should finish 63 days normally. It depends how great everyting is. Enviroment, air, light, nutes plus more. Like he said "Depends".
I'm not talking about finishing. I'm talking about veg growth. The speed of finishing has nothing to do with soil or hydro. You shut up
 

skunky33

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No, you shut up. This thread is about root tip pruning techniques. Get with the program.
Yes, copper carbonate, it's very interesting. Nurseries have been coating their burlap and the pots of larger ornamental for a long time. 1/10th copper carbonate to latex flat paint. It's not meant to be on plants that are ingested though, so I don't know if Marijuana uploads copper carbonate. It's definitely possible.
 

Uncle Ben

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Yes, copper carbonate, it's very interesting. Nurseries have been coating their burlap and the pots of larger ornamental for a long time. 1/10th copper carbonate to latex flat paint. It's not meant to be on plants that are ingested though, so I don't know if Marijuana uploads copper carbonate. It's definitely possible.
It's I.E. is a hydroxide, not a carbonate, and it's not "on plants". Look......I don't mind you commenting if you're on topic and want to learn, but if you wish to opine, know what you're talking about. You have not used or understand chemical root tip pruning products.
 

Halamaya

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UncleBen would you recommend chemical root pruning for the average grower like myself. I only us a 180 watt led on my grows and I usually take in anywhere from an ounce to 2 ounces per plant. In your opinion would my yields be greatly increased or am I using too little light to bother?
 

Uncle Ben

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UncleBen would you recommend chemical root pruning for the average grower like myself. I only us a 180 watt led on my grows and I usually take in anywhere from an ounce to 2 ounces per plant. In your opinion would my yields be greatly increased or am I using too little light to bother?
I wouldn't bother. For starts, Griffin's Spin-Out (copper hydroxide suspended in latex paint) is hard to find and it's expensive for the casual gardener like yourself.... you have to buy it in bulk. MicroKote is cheaper.

I'd up my game in general finding the right balance of light, water, temps, nutrition, etc. Gardening is all about The Balance. For example, I just ordered what might be the "holy grail" for cannabis plant nutrition (and will use it on tropicals) - http://www.jrpeters.com/Products/Jack-s-Classic/Citrus-FeED.html In a typical soil blend you can use this from start to finish with excellent results. Do the usual noob drill using a bloom food during flowering and you'll fail.

Good luck,
UB
 

Halamaya

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You have Amazing results. That's funny I use their all purpose 20-20-20 for the veg and love the ease of use. I never would of thought to use that one I will definitely be checking it out thanks UncleBen.
 
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