Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

irieie

Well-Known Member
76 is in about the 80th percentile for Bho and 99th percentile for co2. I agree that co2 is not as strong, it also tends to have a higher level of lemonene giving it a very unique smell taste.
 

poplars

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very much enjoying reading your guyses debate, I like it when a discussion based debate is maintained, keeping it calm but lots of useful information exchange in the process, keep it up!!
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
If that were the case, then why is a scfe using carbon dioxide the methods used to produce Marinol, dronabinol, or sativex? Dronabinol has been no less than 95% THC. So then why isn't butane the methods used to achieve such purity? Where the papers or proof other than you saying it averages 75-80% worst case senario. What exactly is the 76%? Cbd, cbn, thc? You do have several test proving that statement. Just because you choke your ass off, doesn't mean it's higher in desired compounds of interest. I've been doing bho because I've been so broke. Everyone I normally get high noticed right away when the change came. They labeled BHO" the booboo bag" cuase it's that much Harsher, a bit off in taste, typical I dare you type of smoke. It's probably good if you've never had better, but once you know the differences it's very apperant why it's the booboo bag.
 

bigvito

Member
I have a ? for u guys i just did my first run of bho 10g of some dried and cured bubblegummer used a honey bee and vector then i let it sit in a water bath which was bout 120-130 degrees and after an hour it looked like this

did this auto budder on me? Is it possible to get it back to oil? Most important is it purged?!!
I posted this here cuz all you guys seem to be the resident experts on oil. I would greatly appreciate any help i cant wait.
to take a hit of some bho this stuff smells AWESOME
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
It's hard to tell from pictures.. But I mean it looks like some decent budder. Light complexion, and consistent coloring.

Although if you want oil/sap.. the best technique for that would be electric vacuum purging. $150-$200 on vacuum, $100-$200 on a chamber.. well worth it though if you like concentrates. I still (unverified) think it's the only way to "fully" purge hash oil without completely nuking it with heat.
 

Dan Kone

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Where the papers or proof other than you saying it averages 75-80% worst case senario. What exactly is the 76%? Cbd, cbn, thc? You do have several test proving that statement. Just because you choke your ass off, doesn't mean it's higher in desired compounds of interest. I've been doing bho because I've been so broke. Everyone I normally get high noticed right away when the change came. They labeled BHO" the booboo bag" cuase it's that much Harsher, a bit off in taste, typical I dare you type of smoke. It's probably good if you've never had better, but once you know the differences it's very apperant why it's the booboo bag.
You're kind of demanding a lot of evidence from my for someone who refuses to even explain why they think co2 concentrates are superior.

You can look at the lab testing and it does appear bho is stronger most of the time. http://www.sclabs.com/scl-tested.html

Do you have an actual explanation for why you think it's better, or are you just going to keep repeating that it's better?
 

jaydub13

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post wtf you do so special that makes your oil danker than the rest? I'm glad you guys can't put the concept together, as I get time for my grant application. You guys haven't got the foggiest. It's no wonder I feel so deserving of the grants I am applying for, suckas. So if that happens, it would become public knowledge soon. But if you don't speak Chinese, your not going to understand the technical talk either. My methods require some tweeking before I can suggest you to be doing something against the law, like unscrewing the valve off a tank etc.
so he is a tweeker....without auto-correct. Thanks for blessing us with your bland knowledge of the Orient as well. Another fable to go along with your solvent extraction bullshit... blow yourself up already.
 

irieie

Well-Known Member
I don't make co2 oil yet because I don't have the proper equipment with a high pressure setup, but from seeing a lot of co2 oil in person and the pics from sclabs, the higher testing oils seem to have been further refined, hence a large range in oil potency anywhere from 35%up to 75%. Based in the drastic differences in potency as well as texture, color and clarity, I would hypothesize that the higher testing co2 oil have been further refined some way.
 

CannabisCorps

Active Member
It's cuz so many of you guys really don't know the lingo. Bar, centigrade, atmosphere, and gas laws are where you guys need schooling. To convert them in a lingo you do understand as a reference, bar converted to psi and centigrade to Fahrenheit because you always want to know that information like the back of your hand. Get a tank, unscrew it, fill it w weed, then ethanol, screw on the valve, then take it for a liquid fill for co2. Must fill for this to work, no exchanges.
So you are saying that you load your vessel into a car (really?) then take said vessel into a store (reeeealy??).....
obv this is a horrible idea and all so u can shoot ice plugs and snow into a bucket later? And anyone as smart as u claim to be would not be working on a Hoarders set...
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
The varying strengths is largely due to pressure and temperature, virgin extract, pulling the popcorn, bud extractions, kief extractions, but the most potent region is about 800 psi to about 1,500. All scfe are more than recreational use is needed. Even @ 10,000 psi where the product is severly diluted w waxes and other trashes, it's taken the most experienced smokers and dabbers by surprise.
 

irieie

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So you just make this up as you go along huh? You dont really seem like you truly know what you are talking about. Nor do you seem to have any evidence to substantiate your conclusions. For someone who is always talking about science, you don't seem to ever follow the scientific method. Do you get your oils tested? Got any test results or quantifiable data (other than anecdotal) to substantiate your claims? Not trying to be offensive just want science and truth.
 

oilmkr420

Active Member
Who gets tane extracts tested? No shop I know of. Concentrates walks a fine line, but BsHO is a manufacturing charge, I use temperature and pressure and go thru loop holes that aren't applicable for my extractions. You guys use flammable solvents that attack my asthma and give a taste uniquely associated w butane. Weather its mercs or sulfer to detect leaks it's all good enough substandard conditions you guys willingly accept. For harshness alone, tane loses. Not to mention taste, high,effeciency as a solvent, cost, green technology, etc. So how many reasons does one need to be curious about my claims? Only a true dumb numb nuts would say butanes better for these reasons......
There isn't any reasons it could be advantagous to use it over co2. In fact the only suitable solvent that out does co2 is subcritical h2o.
 

jaydub13

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Weather its mercs or sulfer to detect leaks it's all good enough substandard conditions you guys willingly accept.
This is great example of English composition. What a scholar to be applying for said grants... I don't buy it, or any of the bullshit you're pushing. I'll stick to water extractions, thanks.
 

irieie

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Just as I suspected, all hot air and no substance. I get my bho tested all the time, it's called science. Quantified data on a set scale and parameter. It is a way of truly comparing results and thereby the processes used to obtain said results. Everyone that has ever tasted my product has been blown away from experienced dabbers to novice smokers, but that is not scientific proof of anything. So when someone uses the anecdotal self reported hearsay to make scientific conclusions about anything is laughable at best and embarrassing for the one making these baseless claims.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
I don't make co2 oil yet because I don't have the proper equipment with a high pressure setup, but from seeing a lot of co2 oil in person and the pics from sclabs, the higher testing oils seem to have been further refined, hence a large range in oil potency anywhere from 35%up to 75%. Based in the drastic differences in potency as well as texture, color and clarity, I would hypothesize that the higher testing co2 oil have been further refined some way.
Those waxes are not further refined with other solvents. They are just plain old bho. There is just different processing methods.
 

Dan Kone

Well-Known Member
Who gets tane extracts tested?
<--- this guy

No shop I know of.
Pretty much every shop I go in.

Concentrates walks a fine line, but BsHO is a manufacturing charge, I use temperature and pressure and go thru loop holes that aren't applicable for my extractions. You guys use flammable solvents that attack my asthma and give a taste uniquely associated w butane.
Butane is non-toxic and odorless.

Weather its mercs or sulfer to detect leaks it's all good enough substandard conditions you guys willingly accept.
That's why vac purges and rst screenings exist.

For harshness alone, tane loses.
Definitely harsh. But if you're vaporizing oils into your lungs it's going to be kind of harsh.

Not to mention taste,
bho can be made to taste even better than the flowers they come from.

high,effeciency as a solvent, cost, green technology, etc.
effciency? As far as I'm aware there is no more efficient solvent than butane.

So how many reasons does one need to be curious about my claims? Only a true dumb numb nuts would say butanes better for these reasons......
There isn't any reasons it could be advantagous to use it over co2. In fact the only suitable solvent that out does co2 is subcritical h2o.
and also it's stronger...
 
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