Organic Growing Made Easy & Fox Farms Ocean Forest!

[SOMEBEECH]

Thts why i was like what Sweet AACT,Not gonna happen with tht stuff.
I did check the smell Tday and had a rotten smell and discarded,and getting some rain Tday so i can fill my 55g buckett 'crosses' 'fingers'.Man i love rain water,For my girls.I read tht the closer the Tstorm the more the N in the Water.Gonna check tht out this spring.
Its almost 40-50ppm,everytime here lately my OCD wont let me do anything pertaining to watering even tho i know the soil is a buffer.6 to 7 ph or it get adjusted to 6
Beech

 

[SOMEBEECH]

laska Fish Fertilizer Listed by the Organic Materials Review Institute OMRI, Alaska Fish Fertilizer 5-1-1 is an excellent all-purpose application made from 100% seagoing fish emulsion. Alaska Fish Fertilizer is rich in natural nutrients and the mild formulation guards against fertilizer burn. Great for use on any type of plant both indoors and out.

Dont belive tht its deodorized,Stuff stinks real bad!!
Beech

 

[Sincerely420]

The "sweet" smell that I was referring to comes from adding too much molasses to your AACT brew.
I've also gave them a good smell to make sure everything was still aerobic and whatnot, and the one tea that smelled a little different, is the one that brought the issues that you witnessed remember?!
M is a lot more nutritional than I think it's been passed off as, so tryin to use it as anything more than carb source in the AACTs seems unnecessary.
And good call of ditching it when you think it's not right!

And maybe try to go without pHing a batch for a few plants and see if you notice a difference in anything..
Maybe that might bring you to a conclusion sooner than later, as to whether you need to be pHing or not.
I know you do it just for the F of it tho, I'm just thinking out loud for you.

And yeah, that's fish emulsion. I've got fish hydrolosate. The smell of the Neptunes Harvest isn't at all too much

Thts why i was like what Sweet AACT,Not gonna happen with tht stuff.
I did check the smell Tday and had a rotten smell and discarded,and getting some rain Tday so i can fill my 55g buckett 'crosses' 'fingers'.Man i love rain water,For my girls.I read tht the closer the Tstorm the more the N in the Water.Gonna check tht out this spring.
Its almost 40-50ppm,everytime here lately my OCD wont let me do anything pertaining to watering even tho i know the soil is a buffer.6 to 7 ph or it get adjusted to 6
Beech

 

[SOMEBEECH]

Oh yea i remember the od of the M.
I will probly never break tht habit of Ph ing everything,ole habits are hard to break.
Beech

 

[Sincerely420]

No need to break it bossman. Esp. if you have the time and energy to do so.
TBH, if I had a nice pH meter, I'd do it too, but my pH meter cost $10 and has been all but retired lol

 

[doublejj]

I like to mix Ocean Forest & Happy Frog 1-1. I add 15% fresh worm casting, 15% fresh compost, 15% perlite, & some dolomite & rainbow mix organic fertilizer. This is a very good mix, I get outstanding results with it.
OF + HF =

 

[Sincerely420]

I like to mix Ocean Forest & Happy Frog 1-1. I add 15% fresh worm casting, 15% fresh compost, 15% perlite, & some dolomite & rainbow mix organic fertilizer. This is a very good mix, I get outstanding results with it.
OF + HF =

#YESS! And w/ pics! Very nice and thank you sir!
It's is obvious that you're mix is a GREAT mix as you're ladies are looking EXTRA satisfied!
Haven't heard of that Rainbow mix before now tho, and can't get a visual on the label so I gotta ask what's it composed of?
I'll end up looking into it without a doubt! Tis the time of year for a nice outdoor mix!
Nice that you're prepped brother!

Hats off to ya boss. Way to grow

edit- Also, how the super coarse perlite? vs the medium or chunky? Any logic in using the super coarse? Or is it just what you source the easiest?

 

[doublejj]

Good luck bro, thanks.
This is just a mix I've been using with much success. Rainbow should be available wherever you are, it's nothing new. Just do a search for it, they will explain it better than I can. I top dress with it ever 2 weeks & switch to the bloom formula when I start to see flowers.
I've done a few of my grows over on the outdoor page before. Lots more pic's & videos in the grow threads over there.

P.S. I prefer the coarse perlite, but I'll use what I can get

 

[doublejj]

And when I say 'fresh worm casting & compost', I mean farm fresh!

 

[Sincerely420]

Haha nice! And no shit lol, I see you meant FRESH!
The more I've learned, the more I've realized the "significance" of using fresh castings.
Posted a Craigslist ad searching for some but to no avail, and the local shop on supplies the wiggle worms which I've been using w/ success, but I know they're not the equivalent.

Anyhow, I'll be building a worm bin the next week so I'll have that problem solves here in the next 2-3 months haha. Gotta pick up my last bag of wiggleworms tomo.

But you are recycling all this soil too right?! You shouldn't have to buy anymore ever again

And stay safe and much success to you sir! Keep it rocking!

 

[Sincerely420]

Not too mention the size of the fan leaf pictured DAMN!

Make sure you check out Espoma Tomato Tone brother! It's full of shit that our ladies love in an all-in-one package! In case you weren't familiar.

 

[doublejj]

Haha nice! And no shit lol, I see you meant FRESH!
The more I've learned, the more I've realized the "significance" of using fresh castings.
Posted a Craigslist ad searching for some but to no avail, and the local shop on supplies the wiggle worms which I've been using w/ success, but I know they're not the equivalent.

Anyhow, I'll be building a worm bin the next week so I'll have that problem solves here in the next 2-3 months haha. Gotta pick up my last bag of wiggleworms tomo.

But you are recycling all this soil too right?! You shouldn't have to buy anymore ever again

And stay safe and much success to you sir! Keep it rocking!

I re-use my old soil in my vegie garden every year.
But my ganja plants get new soil each year.

Good luck
P.S. Thanks for the tip on the Espoma bro, I'll take a look.

 

[Sincerely420]

No doubt bossman! Anything you got to share, def. do so! And I mean anything pertaining to growing bushes like you grow haha!
I've just been stockpiling everything that I can, so I can find all the info I need in one place ya know?! Myself, my friends, and fellow farmers.

Hopefully I don't have to buy anymore soil this year haha. If I had the space I'd be composting also but yeah....in time...

Cheers tho JJ

 

[doublejj]

If your nearby, you should try to make it to the 4/20 BBQ in NorCal. There should be lots of growers there to talk to.
There's a thread on the outdoor page, come if you can.
Good luck

doublejj

 

[Sincerely420]

Soo...I'm on my 3rd soil mix using Fox Farms Ocean Forest as a base soil!

This mix is a little different tho as I'm reusing the soil from 3 plants that I harvest this month!
The soil mix that I used for those 3 plants was:
-1.5 cubic feet Fox Farm Ocean Forest
-30 cups Perlite
-3 tablespoons Hi-Cal lime
-24 cups Earth Worm Castings
-3/4cups Espoma Tomato Tone 3-4-6
-1 1/2cups Algamin Kelp Meal 1-0-2
-3/4cups Espoma Greensand
-7.5 cups Glacial Rock Dust

Off all those amendments added initially, the Kelp meal, the Green sand, and Rock dust will still be very giving to the soil ecosystem, and in prime of their release times by the time I get ready to use the soil again.
The Tomato tone as well potentially.
Given that set of facts, I've only had to LIGHTLY re-amend the soil and will have recycle it to get everything rolling again.

But why recycle your soil? Why not just buy new soil with every grow?
1.$$$ for one.
2.Living soils get BETTER with time. Do a quick Google search on "Soil Fertility" to make yourself familiar!
3.To NEVER have to buy soil again

And what I mean by a living soil, or a super soil, or an amended soil, is a soil that is complete.
A soil that has been enriched minerally as well as nutritionally! I could go so far as to saying a soil that has been inoculated as well, but mixing in mycorrhizae isn't a must. Just highly recommended given the relationship between the roots and the living soil.

In doing what I'm doing tho, or at least attempting to do, you can start with a few bags of Fox Farms Ocean Forest and develop a far more superior product over time by your lonely. The way to do so is cultivating the life in our soil!

Replenishing the sources of compost and the nutrition and mineral amendments, adding less and less over time until you've created a fertile, self sustaining soil.
Once you've built up a nice heard of micro organisms in your soil, they pretty much serve as the both the provider and the protector of our plants!

Below are pics of the 3 root balls that I broke back down to recycle their soil!

Dinafem Blue Widow Root Massw/ Perlite Lined Bottom. Roughly 4 gallons of soil. In the 3rd pic, you can also see how much soil I started out to begin with! About an inch or so lined the bottom. After 3 root balls broking down, the tupperware is full again!
<-Dinafem Blue Widow Root Mass Broken down!

Nirvana "autoflowering" Bubblicious Root Mass

^^Nirvana "autoflowering" Bubblicious(Perlite Lined Bottom)
Nirvana "autoflowering" Bubblicious(Digging The Perlite Outta The Bottom. Was About 1/2" thick layer)
Nirvana "autoflowering" Bubblicious Root Mass Broken Down!

Seedsman White Widow Root Mass Exposed!
View attachment 2586431View attachment 2586432View attachment 2586433 Seedsman White Widow Root Mass Broken Down!


So we went from this:



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To this:

View attachment 2586444My products(amendment wise) are the very same once I bought back in October! Yep..I haven't had to buy anything else(amendment wise) since!
And I wont have to for another couple grows.
Compost and Worm Castings are the exception to that tho...I had to pick up some new bagged compost and bagged EWCs to work with.
Unless you produce your own, you'll be getting new bags of each every grow!



<-Nice New Soil After Adding All of The Above! Much darker in color, and nice and loamy!
View attachment 2586454Made a nice "jumpstart" AACT that I bubbled for a solid 24hs to get the microbe action started on the right foot!
This tea consisted of :
1 gallon dechlorinated H20
1/4 cup Ancient Forest Compost
1 teaspoon Kelp Meal
1/2 teaspoon Neptune's Harvest
2 teaspoons Unsulphured Molasses

<-The finished product! Minus 1 motnh time for it to "cook" or "cycle"!


And there we have it! I've successfully recycled the soil from my first grow, watered it with an AACT, and will let it sit for at least a month, turning it once weekly before I use it!

As always, I will post pics with results of this recycled mix in time!

Cheers to Success And Stashing Cash!

 

[Sincerely420]

If your nearby, you should try to make it to the 4/20 BBQ in NorCal. There should be lots of growers there to talk to.
There's a thread on the outdoor page, come if you can.
Good luck

doublejj

I wish I was in Cali brother! Would love to come out! Unfortunately I'm on the opposite coast ATM...I'll be making my way west sooner than later tho, so keep in touch with me as I evolve with this! You never know what life has planned bossman!
There's a 99% chance that I'll be headed to Colorado on 4/20 for the cup. Me and my lass! Are you coming out?!

 

[doublejj]

No we are having our own little BBQ on 4/20.
Good luck bro, you look like you have it dialed!

doublejj

 

[Sincerely420]

Ahh ok good stuff!
And thanks man! I'm a young mind in this game, but working hard as far as studying up goes haha!
A man intrigued is a force to be reckoned with ayee!!

Cheers boss

 

[doublejj]

I got my wife a loadhandler for christmas and she can unload a p/u full of soil in minutes. She'll draw a crowd at the local landfill!lol!
Well, you did call me a boss!

 

[Sincerely420]

You deserve to be called "boss" with threes like that boss! I know I'd be honored to go to work for ya

Ps, my girl is the only that ever buys anything from the grow stores lol! Don't know the stats for pretty blondes getting profiled, but we'll bank on hers versus mine haha! I see ya boss!

Sexy truck btw lol