Making a living as a caregiver

gladstoned

Well-Known Member
I went to Dr Bob because I thought he cared about my well being. All he has been doing though is trying to make my condition worse.
Not sure why. I have trouble sleeping so I log in here and he is starting trouble with other patients and accused of being intoxicated!!:shock:
Obviously no one regulates doctors behavior. Is he fucking with me cuz it's almost time to renew, so he's making my condition worse to help me qualify?!?!
Should he be doing that while he's drinking? This is all new to me. I haven't been to many doctors and wasn't aware they made sport of fucking with their patients.
 

Dr. Bob

Well-Known Member
caregivers not patients
Perhaps I am not being clear. Patient c is served by caregiver b who in turn is a patient of caregiver a. A can transfer to b for b's medical use. A is assisting b with b's medical use. Same when b transfers medicine to c. IF however, a transfers meds to b who transfers those same meds to c, a is not assisting with b's medical use, they are assisting with c's use.

The argument that you can assist someone in their assistance of someone else down the line can be used, but so can the argument I presented.

Do what you wish, but know that it will at best be a rather expensive test case.

Dr. Bob
 

Cory and trevor

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In case you forgot, the post that seemed to start all this was my comment that it is probably best to look at being a caregiver as a self financing hobby, to look at it as an income producing job could lead to problems.

To explain that, if the caregiver wants to earn 30k a year, if they follow the rules and have 5 paying patients, they must make $2500 a month ($500 a patient per month) above their expenses to make than 30K a year. The only what that will happen is if the 5 patients require a very large amount each month (10 oz at $50 per ounce over cost). Otherwise they must have more than 5 patients, which currently is not allowed, or they must sell outside of the patient/caregiver system. The former is not very common (and very expensive for the patient) and the latter two will put the caregiver at risk for distributing outside of the act.

Thanks for getting us back on topic Homeless

Dr. Bob
Unless the caregiver is supplying 5 caregivers who in turn supply another 5 patients each....or any other myriad of legal ways to trickle it down but you don't know about this you're a pot doctor who doesn't know much about pot.
 

Cory and trevor

Well-Known Member
sorry homeless didn't so your answer to the good doc before I copied your plan. At any rate....I knew you couldn't resist my little buttercup smooch winky face nighty night my little robbie
 

Dr. Bob

Well-Known Member
That is the problem, a daisy chain or 'caregiver circle' isn't direct assistance with medical use. It isn't within the act.

If you want to discuss, leave the personal attack issues out.

Dr. Bob
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
Do what you wish, but know that it will at best be a rather expensive test case.

Dr. Bob
not too worry about me.
my lawyer works pro bono since I did more for his mothers last days than your whole profession. Honestly I think he would sue everyone of you if he could.
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
That is the problem, a daisy chain or 'caregiver circle' isn't direct assistance with medical use. It isn't within the act.

If you want to discuss, leave the personal attack issues out.

Dr. Bob
neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.
 

Dr. Bob

Well-Known Member
neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.
Sorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?

Dr. Bob
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
The circle of caregivers, daisy chain concept appears to be a good idea to me. There is nothing in the law that says that a caregiver can't have another caregiver as his/her patient. Is there? If not, it'd almost be impossible to get popped if your patient, another caregiver, transferred somewhat ambiguous meds along the line to their patient.

After all, what the heck is a CG supposed to do when they happen be out of fresh meds temporarily?
The above scenario seems to be inline w the current laws IMO.
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
Sorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?

Dr. Bob
nope I am what I am... and my momma taught me not to care what called us or thought of us..... your strawman argument was that it was not 'in the act' neither are you,sir
 

TheMan13

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I personally don't even see a need for pot docs or their costs associated with MMMA. Why not just use minimum wage earners to certify that already (OVER) paid for and required medical records/diagnosis are covered under MMMA? This could even be a medical records specialist/notary, a new at home employment for single parents may be :bigjoint:
 

Sir Stanky

Active Member
Sorry that makes no sense. The physician recommendation was required as part of the act. Ideally by the primary care doc, but that assumes primary care docs could and would write the recommendations. It is a pity your hostility prevents you from discussing these things like an adult. Can you put up a single post without being an ass?

Dr. Bob
neither are 'pot doc's' within the act. they certainly where not dreamed of by the voting public.

I am not sure why this post makes HomeLessBeans a childlike ass. His assessment of pot doctors seems accurate.
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
THIS ENTIRE BOARD IS INFESTED WITH CRY BABY KNOW IT ALLS, I WISH I COULD FIND THESE PEOPLE AND KICK THEIR ASSES.

YOU CAN TELL YOU ARE ALL YOUNG CUZ US OLDER FOLK PARTY AND CHILL OUT, BUT YOU LITTLE SHITS FIGHT AND ARGUE

FK YOU ALL.

BUT DONT WORRY, I JUST GIGGED THIS BOARD FOR HAVING PEOPLE AND POST RECCOMENDING MEDICINE FOR CERTAIN AILMENTS AND THATS PRACTICING MEDICINE WITHOUT A LICENSE.

THIS BORARD IS MINE AFTER I FOLLOW THEIR ADVICE AND HAVE MY SEIZURE AND SUE.

THE POSTER, THE OWNER OF THIS BOARD AND THE MORDERATORS WHO EXCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY TO POLICE THESE POST

YOU ARE ALL LIABLE.

The unauthorized practice of medicine occurs when someone gives medical advice or treatment without a professional license. The prohibition against the unauthorized practice of medicine is a precaution against people who would try to treat others without the proper training, or by using unproven methods which could harm or even kill their supposed patients. As a result, all states make the unauthorized practice of medicine a criminal offense with potentially serious penalties. However, the practice of medicine itself is a slippery term which can be difficult to define.
What is the practice of medicine?

Since states are responsible for providing medical licenses, each state has a slightly different legal definition for the practice of medicine. In general, a person practices medicine when he or she tries to diagnose or cure an illness or injury, prescribes drugs, performs surgery, or claims he or she is a doctor.
Sometimes, activities that might be considered the unauthorized practice of medicine are legal even when performed by people without a medical license. For example,schools may administer prescription drugs to students who need them because a doctor has already prescribed the drugs, and it is generally considered safer than leaving the drugs in the students' hands.
On Medical Advice

The practice of medicine becomes trickier to define when you look at medical advice. There are a few guidelines, however, that can help define when "medical advice" is "the practice of medicine." In general, advice as the practice of medicine has several of the following qualities:

  • First, advice might be considered "the practice of medicine" when the persongiving it claims he or she is a doctor. This is because the title of "doctor" indicates that the person giving advice has gone through the rigorous process of medical school and succeeded in obtaining a medical license. So your friends cannot be considered to be practicing medicine when they tell you to take more vitamin C, since they never claim to be doctors.
  • Second, advice may be the practice of medicine when the advice isspecific to a particular person's illness or injury. <---- GOT YA.

you are a friend of bobs?:eyesmoke:
 

HomeLessBeans

New Member
and as to why I may sound hostile? I Do NOT Like Snitches...never liked tattletales either.. just bullies using some one else to do their dirty work..i.e. Cops, Mommy, or Rollit n the Mods.. all the same to me
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
There's mods here from non-legal states, for all you know they are crazy ass outlaws...


No their not silly.....
their secret deep cover...

not outlaws.....
they won't hurt you...
--.just kick in your fron t door and take anything they want :eyesmoke:


besides theirs a new club now by flint called green oasis---


the thuggish ruggish bones own it and they are 'distributing ' a new strain--

its called phiphty caliber kush....:joint:
...it was in all the papers--
-go get you sum!!


silly rabbit--- 1 post
 

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
In case you forgot, the post that seemed to start all this was my comment that it is probably best to look at being a caregiver as a self financing hobby, to look at it as an income producing job could lead to problems.

To explain that, if the caregiver wants to earn 30k a year, if they follow the rules and have 5 paying patients, they must make $2500 a month ($500 a patient per month) above their expenses to make than 30K a year. The only what that will happen is if the 5 patients require a very large amount each month (10 oz at $50 per ounce over cost). Otherwise they must have more than 5 patients, which currently is not allowed, or they must sell outside of the patient/caregiver system. The former is not very common (and very expensive for the patient) and the latter two will put the caregiver at risk for distributing outside of the act.

Thanks for getting us back on topic Homeless

Dr. Bob
Dr Bob , when you came up with those figures of $50 per ounce above cost and what a caregiver could make per year you must have some idea of how much it costs to produce an ounce of MM , What do you think the cost is ? And any caregivers out there , what do you think the cost would be ?
 

Figong

Well-Known Member
Dr Bob , when you came up with those figures of $50 per ounce above cost and what a caregiver could make per year you must have some idea of how much it costs to produce an ounce of MM , What do you think the cost is ? And any caregivers out there , what do you think the cost would be ?
This answer has too many variables undefined - would the caregiver be running CO? If so, would it be from tanks or another method? Light cycles vs time of day would factor into the price, as would nute types / amounts (pre-mix vs homebrew).. as just the start of the variables.
 

NEEDMMASAP

Well-Known Member
This answer has too many variables undefined - would the caregiver be running CO? If so, would it be from tanks or another method? Light cycles vs time of day would factor into the price, as would nute types / amounts (pre-mix vs homebrew).. as just the start of the variables.
Okay so let us include the variables start with the allowed 12 plants and a time factor of 3 months , every caregiver out there should already know the cost . Question is , What is the cost to produce one ounce ?
 
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