A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

[Uncle Ben]

corn can be picked too and forced to reflower you have no idea what ur talkin about

Oh hell ya! I see Texas farmers all the time revegging corn.

Look, that was about as stupid as stupid gets. Corn does not reveg, it's an annual, pinhead. Grow some and find out for yourself. It grows from seed, stalks, tassels, ears fill out (if you're lucky) and then the plant dies a natural death.

Some of you newbs are really stretching it here.

UB

 

[patlpp]

I've not referred anybody but I guess it's as easy as someone like me, a member, to ask admin to open up the gate to my referral.

Let me know if you want in and I'll PM admin.

UB

Yea I want in UB. Please PM admin for me.... Since we're real tight and all.

 

[lilroach]

Uncle Ben......I would love to get away from the trolls....sign me up!

 

[420circuit]

Lots of words but not much content. Has anyone here worked in their garden today? Would love to learn something new about growing. Already enough crazy fuckers running around belching hot air. Anyone got anything other than psycho-babble?

What I got from this so far is that leaves are good and there are a lot of self-absorbed noisemakers who need to feel more important or relevant or some psy thing............ Hey, Uncle Ben, do you have a FAQ for newbies that is dumbed down enough for the users on RIU? I seem to recall that you were a fan of Jack's, which I have become recently after trying in in hydro. Also, I won't be taking any more plants to flower without topping, so I do appreciate that tip.

As far as mod interventions, how about cutting their pay if they do it poorly?

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

corn can be picked too and forced to reflower you have no idea what ur talkin about

lmao....not!!!!! You dont know what your talking about. Maybe you have detasseling and hybridizing confused.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Everytime I look at this thread title, I can't help but to think it should really say "A tribute to Uncle Ben and his Almighty Queef"

 

[PJ Diaz]

I've come to realize that the Uncle Ben persona is much like the bible. It you can filter out all the bullshit there is some good stuff in there. Sure, you could live your gardening life strictly following his ways, and have a good garden -- however, in doing so you may be held back by doctrine and not reach your full potential.

 

[chuck estevez]

I've not referred anybody but I guess it's as easy as someone like me, a member, to ask admin to open up the gate to my referral.

Let me know if you want in and I'll PM admin.

UB

that would be cool!!!

 

[Situation420]

Cannabis is an annual. Forcing it to reveg doesn't change the fact that its natural cycle is to die as an individual and survive through reproduction.

Did you say you were a professional gardener of some sort?

No one mentioned anything about life cycles, i just pointed out the fact that 80% of information that was posted by that guy that was trying to show that he had horticultural knowledge just beacuse he worked on a farm for a while when he was younger was wrong. Him working on a farm means nothing to me about his knowledge base, what If he was just a harvester.

And no never said I was a professional gardener but I have read about 20 books on the subject, taken a years worth of bio engineering courses, have a grandfather that owns 25% of Ny's apple production, and family that has been growing weed since hippie times. I also have family that runs a vineyard as well. Oh yea, and I also worked on a farm when I was younger if that matters too. lmao

 

[Uncle Ben]

..... Hey, Uncle Ben, do you have a FAQ for newbies that is dumbed down enough for the users on RIU? I seem to recall that you were a fan of Jack's, which I have become recently after trying in in hydro. Also, I won't be taking any more plants to flower without topping, so I do appreciate that tip.

Nah sah, you'll have to check out my threads and there are quite a few that address such stuff as the basics, pH, bloom foods, topping, etc. My Tweaks thread pretty sums it up and like I said, it doesn't stray from conventional horticulture.

The delivery of plant food and water is all about the same, you just have get your game down and support the plant, not push it. I see too many newbs that start with something not knowing what they're doing, blindly following the forum blind, become disappointed with the results and then jump off into some trendy hydro thing only to repeat their failures.

I find soil forgiving, cheap, and easy, but that's just me and yes I've been preaching the virtues of Jacks and Dyna-Gro for as long as there's been cannabis forums.

Good luck,
UB

 

[Situation420]

Oh hell ya! I see Texas farmers all the time revegging corn.

Look, that was about as stupid as stupid gets. Corn does not reveg, it's an annual, pinhead. Grow some and find out for yourself. It grows from seed, stalks, tassels, ears fill out (if you're lucky) and then the plant dies a natural death.

Some of you newbs are really stretching it here.

UB

Guess you've never grown corn indoors or seen it grow where farmers get in 2-3 harvests annually. I said you can manipulate a plant to re-veg based on its climate and growing conditions. I even mentioned that the environmental factors are why the plant dies and does not continue to grow. You're saying exactly what I am saying just calling the point when the plant yields its fruit then drops its seeds the end of its natural life cycle, I agree. I just was saying that he was merely making an observation based on a farmers harvesting times and methods but that was one guy in a climate where he is forced to harvest before the winter months.

I have seen it with my own eyes that if you pick a ripe pod of corn in the beginning of august, the plant will replace it with a new bud but won't become full grown due because the winter months come too soon.

No one's stretching anything, just showing that all the so called evidence that defoliation is a yield limiting technique indoors are bogus and irrelevant to the facts that are being presented

 

[Uncle Ben]

lmao....not!!!!! You dont know what your talking about. Maybe you have detasseling and hybridizing confused.

His corny reveg results came as a result of defoliation, but you already knew that.

 

[Darth Budder]

No one mentioned anything about life cycles, i just pointed out the fact that 80% of information that was posted by that guy that was trying to show that he had horticultural knowledge just beacuse he worked on a farm for a while when he was younger was wrong. Him working on a farm means nothing to me about his knowledge base, what If he was just a harvester.

And no never said I was a professional gardener but I have read about 20 books on the subject, taken a years worth of bio engineering courses, have a grandfather that owns 25% of Ny's apple production, and family that has been growing weed since hippie times. I also have family that runs a vineyard as well. Oh yea, and I also worked on a farm when I was younger if that matters too. lmao

well you should read some more then, because I believe you said, and I am paraphrasing here, that the only reason our plants die is because hack the shit out of them or the environmental conditions are wrong. whch is plain flat out incorrect. Don't harvest a plant and keep it under 12/12 fo a little and see what happens.

I think I see why the mods are telling you to shut up and have respect, because you have no idea what you are talking about and this is supposed to be the best place to learn how to grow.

And your my family are pro gardener a argument is as good as the I worked on a farm once...

Read more, learn more, grow more, then speak.when even I can tell you are full of shit, there is a major issue.

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

Yes plants can regenerate, the reason they don't mostly is temps and light cycle... As for defoliation, well like a lot of things, "The devil is in the details" (as they say)... I remember when we introduced the, Bubbler Deep Water Culture device. A lot of people started ripping plants that had been growing in soil out, and slapping them in a bubbler. Then insisting the bubbler didn't work when their plants died...

 

[Vincent VonBlown]

The thing was, that roots produced in soil, are different then roots produced in DWC. So your only option was to scrap the plant, or wait some time for the roots to regrow into the water base environment if you decided to switch. It's a similar thing with defoliation, it has to be done in a correct manner or you are hurting yourself.

 

[Uncle Ben]

Guess you've never grown corn indoors or seen it grow where farmers get in 2-3 harvests annually. I said you can manipulate a plant to re-veg based on its climate and growing conditions.

No, never seen that but then again I keep my corn outdoors. Are you implying that corn is photoperiod dependent? Doesn't sound like it as you opine regarding climate conditions.

I have seen it with my own eyes that if you pick a ripe pod of corn in the beginning of august, the plant will replace it with a new bud but won't become full grown due because the winter months come too soon.

A new bud, eh? What in the hell is a "new bud"? I've grown plenty of corn both old (Bantam, Silver Queen) and the newer super sweet (and excellent) corn like Mirai. It's an annual which upon harvest usually dies within a month, at least it does so in Texas. Doesn't matter how much water or food you put to it, it's toast once it bears. Corn can be planted in the spring for summer harvest and again in the early summer for fall harvest....depends on where you are. (So much for the photoperiod influence). It has to tassel, that's where pollen comes from. It won't tassel but once at least it never has for me or any one I know.

The late ears you may be referring to may be corn #3 which is always a runt and doesn't fill out. The finest quality ears are always #1 and perhaps #2 and if you get 3, that last one is usually no good.

No one's stretching anything, just showing that all the so called evidence that defoliation is a yield limiting technique indoors are bogus and irrelevant to the facts that are being presented

Yeah.....right. Like I said, you and SirTrollsAlot need to get a room. You're both feeding off each other's delusions....and for a so called schooled, experienced gardener, you sure got some strange botanical credos going on.

UB

 

[Uncle Ben]

.... A lot of people started ripping plants that had been growing in soil out, and slapping them in a bubbler. Then insisting the bubbler didn't work when their plants died...

Yep, saw that years ago. I don't know what it is about this community that is so drawn to trends and gimmicks, which usually fail or are disappointing. You can have the stuff like DWC and SCROG too, wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. Oh, then there was the craze with aeroponics. Man, is that kewl! (says little Johnny) One guy produces a little bud and everyone jumps on the aeroponics bandwagon. Now it's coir........and the band plays on. I was growing orchids in coir 25 years ago before it became popular in pot forums. Hell, wasn't even known then except with a few of us orchid growers. Never really did like it. Held up for a while and then within a very short period of time broke down, becoming anaerobic.

BTW, I stated the same MO, see post #293 above.

Learning the art of patience is a humbling experience for some.

UB

 

[BarnBuster]

I've not referred anybody but I guess it's as easy as someone like me, a member, to ask admin to open up the gate to my referral.

Let me know if you want in and I'll PM admin.

UB

Yes, please....

 

[Situation420]

No, never seen that but then again I keep my corn outdoors. Are you implying that corn is photoperiod dependent? Doesn't sound like it as you opine regarding climate conditions.



A new bud, eh? What in the hell is a "new bud"? I've grown plenty of corn both old (Bantam, Silver Queen) and the newer super sweet (and excellent) corn like Mirai. It's an annual which upon harvest usually dies within a month, at least it does so in Texas. Doesn't matter how much water or food you put to it, it's toast once it bears. Corn can be planted in the spring for summer harvest and again in the early summer for fall harvest....depends on where you are. (So much for the photoperiod influence). It has to tassel, that's where pollen comes from. It won't tassel but once at least it never has for me or any one I know.

The late ears you may be referring to may be corn #3 which is always a runt and doesn't fill out. The finest quality ears are always #1 and perhaps #2 and if you get 3, that last one is usually no good.


UB

so you know exactly what I'm talkin about. Why are you always such an ass to me riling up all the noobs

 

[genuity]

why are you people(ub) still here,go to that other place you are tryin to "recruit" people to...end of story.....must be only 5 members over at that spot.