thanks. i'll try to work on the pic thing. kinda thought the stalk color is a plant specific thing..but that along with these banged up leaves. ive got a mazar and a nebula around 2 months. the nebula is the dark stemmed. i was having an issue with my ph and i really was putting a hurting on them acid wise. when i reallized, i flushed (using a soil) and that was only about a week or two ago. again both aren't shapig up well? think they will turn around? thanks again