blackgolem
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problems with leaf control
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Mr.Goodtimes
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Tell us a little about your set up and we can help 
Temperature, humidity, grow medium, ph, the nutrients you use and what amounts? Is this happening to every leaf, or towards the top or bottom of the plant?
Need a little info to help
Temperature, humidity, grow medium, ph, the nutrients you use and what amounts? Is this happening to every leaf, or towards the top or bottom of the plant?
Need a little info to help
chemphlegm
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it isnt lacking nutrients or heat is my first thought
MediheaLed
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It's lacking the rest of the plant! And a detailed list of all the growing conditions. Pics or it ddidn't happen!
blackgolem
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Thanks for response temps run about 80° using Fox farms no nutes at this point have notice plants leaves are shiny as well don't on use ROed water growing under 100w cool white LED humidity between 45-60 plants LSTed so no top or bottom growing in a small spaceTell us a little about your set up and we can help
Temperature, humidity, grow medium, ph, the nutrients you use and what amounts? Is this happening to every leaf, or towards the top or bottom of the plant?
Need a little info to help
blackgolem
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Mr.Goodtimes
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What's your pH at?
How old is the plant?
Can we get a full picture?
How old is the plant?
Can we get a full picture?
blackgolem
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Cant
Can't pH no tool to do it with. My lights out right now post pic when they come back on and been vegging for about 2 months
Mr.Goodtimes
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Get a cheap ph dropper kit, then the next time you water check the ph of the run-off.
I'll bet there-in lies the problem
I'll bet there-in lies the problem
blackgolem
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Will try to find one in the mean time I think it could possibly be that it's cold when lights out been noticing purple stems too anyway here's a pic of my cutting
chemphlegm
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overfed and too hot? well,that would be the fault of your controls and habits sir.
solution-less food more cool air
blackgolem
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Somewhere thought I read that for LED grows you have to have warmer temps and less feeding being my first try at LED lights it's going to be some learning curves have grown nice CFL grows in tents dressers,etc. Used MH-HPS but not LED so if understood my temps are to high for using LEDs? And again I haven't given it any nutes at this time maybe that's what's needed.
blackgolem
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LOL it's a stealth grow temps around 80° no nutes 18-6 light schedule using 100w LED COB chip 6000-6500k cool white mounted to heatsink with 12vdc fan ran at 5vdc to cool also helps to circulate air constantly, dual 12vdc fans for intake/exhaust when temps rise. Nothing fancy just usable guess u could say a set up that works for me in my cave. Posting I now think that being near the intake fans could be causing this because I see now other abnormalities wavy leaves some trying to protect themselves against the wind... Cold temps when lights out too!!
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chemphlegm
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theres no "temps too high for led's". take a peak at jorge cervantes grow bible, its free and explains proper growing temperatures, humidity, c02, light quality, placement, nutirent feeding, watering frequencies and more. There is NO guess work anymore to growing marijuana, we been growing it for over 10 thousand years. Guessing will cause issues, try googling "plant issues, rollitup" those are the cats that dont read grow bible type books.
and yes, you are providing the plant with nutrients, built in to your fox farm soil, a most troublesome combo for so many growers, have you heard google "using fox farm, plants dying"
blackgolem
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I agree Fox farm can cause problems one of my reasons for not adding any during veg and only once during flower and I have Bob Bergman's I love growing MJ and a plant sickness pamphlet but truth I have yet to c anything that looks like the pics I posted of the curling leaves I have. I will get a pH tester because I did use tap water before getting the Reverse Osmosis water that had been working for me with this soil guess I will do a thorough flush and c if it helps put her in a larger pot build a separate area and keep as mother plant and also looking at pic I took it seems lights to bright and too close
chemphlegm
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they make cheap meters to check your "brightness", and putting your hand at the plant canopy will tell you if its too hot.
fox farm soil seems really hot though, to me, I've used with good results, it wont take a flowering plant till the end, neither will happy frog though, but happy frog doesnt get named in the plant issue threads much too..
good luck!
growingforfun
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I think there are a few issues that may be contributing here, this is what I think they may be...
First your using a single powerful light, so it's bright with a bunch of shadowy areas. Plants hate that. I'm gonna bet that this leaf came from a dim area.
Second, it doesn't look like a very good container... most likely needed more drain holes drilled into it, but it's better to buy a new pot instead of fixing it now. You want something you can't see threw, the light getting in can make stuff grow around the root zone that is bad for plant health. When I buy a container, I drill maybe 200 holes in it for that size. Seriously, a hole every 1/4 inch on 1/4 drill bit. And that coveres the bottom and 2 inches up the side, clay pebbles covering the bottom and also mixed into the dirt.
Last, it may be Temps or poor air exchange, but try adding side lighting before messing with this last option.
Goodluck
First your using a single powerful light, so it's bright with a bunch of shadowy areas. Plants hate that. I'm gonna bet that this leaf came from a dim area.
Second, it doesn't look like a very good container... most likely needed more drain holes drilled into it, but it's better to buy a new pot instead of fixing it now. You want something you can't see threw, the light getting in can make stuff grow around the root zone that is bad for plant health. When I buy a container, I drill maybe 200 holes in it for that size. Seriously, a hole every 1/4 inch on 1/4 drill bit. And that coveres the bottom and 2 inches up the side, clay pebbles covering the bottom and also mixed into the dirt.
Last, it may be Temps or poor air exchange, but try adding side lighting before messing with this last option.
Goodluck
growingforfun
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[QUOTE="blackgolem, post: 13311512, Posting I now think that being near the intake fans could be causing this because I see now other abnormalities wavy leaves some trying to protect themselves against the wind... Cold temps when lights out too!![/QUOTE]
This is not the case, unless they are whipping around, and I doubt that. My girls sit in front of a 20 inch box fan and dance all day happily.
This is not the case, unless they are whipping around, and I doubt that. My girls sit in front of a 20 inch box fan and dance all day happily.
ChaosHunter
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The problem with FFOF isn't that its "hot" is that you can get a bag that isn't mixed properly. I use nutes with FFOF from week one all the way through to finish. I do dump and mix the bags along with adding pearlite. I think the issues people have had is hot pockets in the bags that are not mixed in completely.