pot size and yield question?

Kronickeeper

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Current with average to above average yielding strains in coco and botanicare nutes I average about 4 oz a plant sometimes a little more sometime a little less depending on strain but on average about 4 oz out of a 5 gallon pot. So what size pot would I need to jump up to about a 6 oz average? Should I upgrade to a 7 gallon or 10 gallon? This is I. 4x4 space. Any input is appreciated
 

Tupapa

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Current with average to above average yielding strains in coco and botanicare nutes I average about 4 oz a plant sometimes a little more sometime a little less depending on strain but on average about 4 oz out of a 5 gallon pot. So what size pot would I need to jump up to about a 6 oz average? Should I upgrade to a 7 gallon or 10 gallon? This is I. 4x4 space. Any input is appreciated
Yield doesn't consist of size of pot., Yield consist about number one genetics second lights and third technique. Of growing. What kind of lights u use and wattage? And what technique u use? If u want to get more do a SCROG top and lollipop. And use a 600 watts hps or 1000 thats it
 

Kronickeeper

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Yield doesn't consist of size of pot., Yield consist about number one genetics second lights and third technique. Of growing. What kind of lights u use and wattage? And what technique u use? If u want to get more do a SCROG top and lollipop. And use a 600 watts hps or 1000 thats it
I disagree man the bigger the root mass the bigger the yield, I don't get the same yield from a 2 gallon as I do a 5 gallon all of the other things are dialed in which is why I'm considering upping the pot size really wanting to know rather I should up to a 7 or 10 gallon size
 

Nugachino

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It depends on 4 things. First you need a plant that wants to be a big booty b!tch ( good genetics). Then there's having the light to supply it. Then a pot big enough to hold the root stock. And finally. A good supply of nutrients to feed all that growth.
 

Tupapa

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I disagree man the bigger the root mass the bigger the yield, I don't get the same yield from a 2 gallon as I do a 5 gallon all of the other things are dialed in which is why I'm considering upping the pot size really wanting to know rather I should up to a 7 or 10 gallon size
With a 5 u are more than good u dont need all that gallons trust me i have done it. I had plantas in the past in 20 gallons pot with the same results. Rule of thumb is a gallon of soil per month of grow so if u transplant a vegging plant to a 5 galon pot for flowering she won't even use all that space. All that been said genetics, lights and techniques will improve ur yield not gallons of soil. U even can flower in a 3 gallons pot with the same results. You need good wattage and technique thats it!!
 

Nugachino

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How long do you run them in veg stage? Because from what gathered. You'll likely get more from your plants if you let them go for 2 months or more in vegetation. Or until they're 1/3 - 1/2 the size you want them to finish at.
 

Chunky Stool

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It's never a straight calculation because there are many factors. It is very possible that you can hit 6 oz without changing pot size. Have you thought about that? If we were talking about organic soil, it would be totally different. 5 gallons is a lot of room for a plant in coco.
 

a mongo frog

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With a 5 u are more than good u dont need all that gallons trust me i have done it. I had plantas in the past in 20 gallons pot with the same results. Rule of thumb is a gallon of soil per month of grow so if u transplant a vegging plant to a 5 galon pot for flowering she won't even use all that space. All that been said genetics, lights and techniques will improve ur yield not gallons of soil. U even can flower in a 3 gallons pot with the same results. You need good wattage and technique thats it!!
Bigger root system bigger yield. Same thing as bigger dick more pussy.
 

Nugachino

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Sorry to jack. But, what makes organic soil different? Do you need more to attain more or something?
 

Tupapa

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Bigger root system bigger yield. Same thing as bigger dick more pussy.
I know about that statement. The bigger th roots the biggest the fruits., But if u transplant to 5 gallons pot to flower that means that the longest that that plant will b in that pot is 2 months period., So ig u use a 100 gallon pot that doesn't mean that the plant will use all that soil., That been said again is a waste to use more than 5-7 gallons pot she just won't fill that space in that short of a time. Unless u grow outdoors. Light wattage, technique and nutrients its what u need to worry. U will be fine with a 5 gallon pot in a scrog with a good wattage and nutrients assuming that u vegged good enough like 5-7 weeks veg. Then flower for 2 months. Thats it!!!
 

Tupapa

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Sorry to jack. But, what makes organic soil different? Do you need more to attain more or something?
What makes it different is that u are gonna fed ur soil and not ur plant the microbes will fed ur plants for an exchange and another difference is that u are not going to use synthetic nuts it will be all natural
 

Dilago

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How long do you run them in veg stage? Because from what gathered. You'll likely get more from your plants if you let them go for 2 months or more in vegetation. Or until they're 1/3 - 1/2 the size you want them to finish at.
I try to keep them no more than 2 weeks in the vegetative stage. Nine 3 gallon pots under a 600watt hps. And i use plant holders to bring all branches in the light. Keeping plants for 2 months in the vegetative stage will only cost you more time to finish a cycle and cost you yield too because of that.
 

a mongo frog

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That been said again is a waste to use more than 5-7 gallons pot she just won't fill that space in that short of a time. Unless u grow outdoors.
Heres a 10 gallon pot, indoor grow, 9 week flower time. absolutely no veg time in this 10 gallon pot. Veg was done in a 1 gallon grow bag for 26days. These are just my own personal findings, doesn't mean what you are saying is wrong.
 

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a mongo frog

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I know about that statement. The bigger th roots the biggest the fruits., But if u transplant to 5 gallons pot to flower that means that the longest that that plant will b in that pot is 2 months period., So ig u use a 100 gallon pot that doesn't mean that the plant will use all that soil., That been said again is a waste to use more than 5-7 gallons pot she just won't fill that space in that short of a time. Unless u grow outdoors. Light wattage, technique and nutrients its what u need to worry. U will be fine with a 5 gallon pot in a scrog with a good wattage and nutrients assuming that u vegged good enough like 5-7 weeks veg. Then flower for 2 months. Thats it!!!
And heres a 5 gallon. Completely fucked, but awesome!!!
 

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Nugachino

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Only two weeks? Is that a SOG thing? Because my understanding was that you can't force a young plant to flower before it's ready. That's why I gave mine at least that one month of vegging time. So it could grow a decent root ball and be established before the flip.
 

Tupapa

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Then i don't no op just use a 20 gallon pot if u want., I just use a 5 gallons pot and im good with that if i veg in a smaller pot and transplant at the beginning of flower. I will care more about LIGHT wattage, nutrients and technique at that point not the amount of soil., Some people even flower in solo cups and rum bottles at longest u supply the nutrients the light and the right ph everything will be fine., Of course yield will be shit in a party cup., But with 5 gallons u will b more than good. Like i say for the million times. Yield is based on genetics, lights wattage,nutrients and growers technique thats it!!!
 

Dilago

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Only two weeks? Is that a SOG thing? Because my understanding was that you can't force a young plant to flower before it's ready. That's why I gave mine at least that one month of vegging time. So it could grow a decent root ball and be established before the flip.
Yes it is a SOG thing, nine plants per square meter. As we speak i am running a test where i put the clock on 12/12 as soon as the clones rooted and were planted in their final pots. Even though they did have a tough time, the plants are now further in their flowering stage than those that had two weeks of vegging.
 

JavaCo

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If you factor in time Smaller will yield more. Sixteen 2.5 gallon in a 4x4 vegged for one month will always beat out Four ten gallons vegged for one month. Both equal 40 gallons of soil. Going to take more time for those Four plants to fill out a 4x4 then it would sixteen. If you put four 2.5 gallons in that same 4x4 then yeah it is a no brainer they will lose every time. trick question really to many variables
 
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