Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

GreenSanta

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you any of you have have 90 min to watch a vid, if you haven't seen this..... She's the best!!! Cakes and Cookies!!!!!

sweet will do when I feel better, got a nasty cold over here. the old indoor organic garden is killing it though, dont think I have ever yielded so much resin, and so few pests ...not perfect but thats what makes it perfect. I dont mean to brag but I smoke pretty damn good weed these days. OK, I do mean to brag. Sorry hey!
 

ShLUbY

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sweet will do when I feel better, got a nasty cold over here. the old indoor organic garden is killing it though, dont think I have ever yielded so much resin, and so few pests ...not perfect but thats what makes it perfect. I dont mean to brag but I smoke pretty damn good weed these days. OK, I do mean to brag. Sorry hey!
no need to be modest! I sure as hell am not. I'm tired of turning people's herb down because it's inferior... they all call me a snob.... i just laugh at them hahahah. and they can all tell the difference too... which is even better :)
 

GreenSanta

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no need to be modest! I sure as hell am not. I'm tired of turning people's herb down because it's inferior... they all call me a snob.... i just laugh at them hahahah. and they can all tell the difference too... which is even better :)
yes I try not to be rude. For me its mostly that I know that ''MOST'' growers spray stuff, to some extent, whether organic or not. I know from my first year growing that neem can truly affect the taste so I have always stayed away since. I grow perpetual, I don't ever spray, and, the flowers are beautiful and plentiful, so why bother? other growers really hate that snobbishness though, too bad so sad.
 

DonBrennon

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you any of you have have 90 min to watch a vid, if you haven't seen this..... She's the best!!! Cakes and Cookies!!!!!

Hahaha, when I first found this vid, I used to play it to fall a-sleep to at nights, LOL Her enthusiasm about the subject is undeniable and her 'shrill' voice reminds me very much of my mother, although the accent is quite different. My Mom like baking cakes too, LOL
 

ShLUbY

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Hahaha, when I first found this vid, I used to play it to fall a-sleep to at nights, LOL Her enthusiasm about the subject is undeniable and her 'shrill' voice reminds me very much of my mother, although the accent is quite different. My Mom like baking cakes too, LOL
i listened to a fucking killer segment on composting by her today, i posted it on GMM's Compost thread. lots of killer information in that one. she said you should be finishing your compost in 21-28 days.... HOLY SHIT. I can't wait to try it out with her recipe. the method just makes soooo much sense. I can't wait to go through more of the lectures... theres a shit ton of them and interviews on youtube.
 

Chunky Stool

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i listened to a fucking killer segment on composting by her today, i posted it on GMM's Compost thread. lots of killer information in that one. she said you should be finishing your compost in 21-28 days.... HOLY SHIT. I can't wait to try it out with her recipe. the method just makes soooo much sense. I can't wait to go through more of the lectures... theres a shit ton of them and interviews on youtube.
21 - 28 days?
That's funny.
I put kitchen scraps in my compost barrel all year long. I just dumped it on the garden a few weeks ago, but my process is flawed. The fresher stuff has not decomposed much due to colder temps. Since I tumble it every once in awhile, it was all mixed together & impossible to separate old from new.
I said "screw it" & just dumped the entire barrel on my garden, then covered it with dirt from the recycle pile.
Apparently there are critters that like to eat fresh compost, because they dug it up several nights in a row.
I also put bone meal on it, so my dogs also joined in on the big stinky garden feast. (Ended with both of them being sick -- different thread.)
 

ShLUbY

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21 - 28 days?
That's funny.
I put kitchen scraps in my compost barrel all year long. I just dumped it on the garden a few weeks ago, but my process is flawed. The fresher stuff has not decomposed much due to colder temps. Since I tumble it every once in awhile, it was all mixed together & impossible to separate old from new.
I said "screw it" & just dumped the entire barrel on my garden, then covered it with dirt from the recycle pile.
Apparently there are critters that like to eat fresh compost, because they dug it up several nights in a row.
I also put bone meal on it, so my dogs also joined in on the big stinky garden feast. (Ended with both of them being sick -- different thread.)
i have a couple compost barrels but shit just goes anerobic in them. they suck for composting. just a marketing scheme to make people feel good about trying to compost IMO. proper composting requires air to make the process aerobic. when you make a proper thermophillic compost (thermo to kill seeds and pathogens), the pile gets hot in the center, and the O2 levels drop dramatically. so the pile must be turned when it hits those hot 150-160deg. temperatures. basically turned inside out, and when it heats up that high again, it should be turned one more time. after like 18 days or something the temp should start coming back down, and the compost should be finishing over the next 10-14 days.

My composters make great soil mixing devices though! so that was a bonus lol
 

Chunky Stool

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i have a couple compost barrels but shit just goes anerobic in them. they suck for composting. just a marketing scheme to make people feel good about trying to compost IMO. proper composting requires air to make the process aerobic. when you make a proper thermophillic compost (thermo to kill seeds and pathogens), the pile gets hot in the center, and the O2 levels drop dramatically. so the pile must be turned when it hits those hot 150-160deg. temperatures. basically turned inside out, and when it heats up that high again, it should be turned one more time. after like 18 days or something the temp should start coming back down, and the compost should be finishing over the next 10-14 days.

My composters make great soil mixing devices though! so that was a bonus lol
Hey, my compost barrel is the bee's knees; perfect in every way! :cuss:
:neutral: :dunce:
OK, I lied. The thing is a piece of shit. Seriously. Worthless piece of plastic shit on a shitty plastic frame!
Highly not recommended.
Tried to move it while full and the thing almost fell apart. I gave up and just used a wheelbarrow & shovel.
I should have brought my "Tilterator" from the other house when we moved. That thing was awesome & didn't take up much space at all.
The link on google doesn't work anymore. Dang.
Basically it had notched removable front & back panels. Sides were connected with PVC pipe. Just pull the panels, rotate it, replace one panel, move compost over, replace other panel. EZPZ
 

elkamino

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Basically it had notched removable front & back panels. Sides were connected with PVC pipe. Just pull the panels, rotate it, replace one panel, move compost over, replace other panel. EZPZ
I live in a shitty little apartment now and don't compost but when I lived in my home in Montana I we did the same, just with pallets as panels (yes clean ones lol). I had two bays, each the size of pallets or 3' x 3' x 3', next to each other. T-posts and a fenced corner held them upright, and we just stacked select yard waste/scraps/fallen apples/ newspaper/bones/etc for awhile on one side, then turn to the other. If it went a while without turning some (like too many leaves stacked or grass in 1 clump) would go anaerobic but whatever, the rest was crazy full of already-there red wigglers, sometimes like 50% of the mass would be worms! I'd just turn it to the other side, mixing loam with worm orgies and anaerobic stanky rottenness and it would all work out like a boss, on its own. A third bay would have made it ideal and sometimes I'd move one bay to the other side for various reasons. Always worked out great, we always had some compost we could use and didn't really think about it. No way were we getting compost in 3 weeks tho! Perhaps Montana soil is cooler than Dr Ingham's, or whatever, it was no muss no fuss and I miss growing shit outside...
 

Chunky Stool

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I live in a shitty little apartment now and don't compost but when I lived in my home in Montana I we did the same, just with pallets as panels (yes clean ones lol). I had two bays, each the size of pallets or 3' x 3' x 3', next to each other. T-posts and a fenced corner held them upright, and we just stacked select yard waste/scraps/fallen apples/ newspaper/bones/etc for awhile on one side, then turn to the other. If it went a while without turning some (like too many leaves stacked or grass in 1 clump) would go anaerobic but whatever, the rest was crazy full of already-there red wigglers, sometimes like 50% of the mass would be worms! I'd just turn it to the other side, mixing loam with worm orgies and anaerobic stanky rottenness and it would all work out like a boss, on its own. A third bay would have made it ideal and sometimes I'd move one bay to the other side for various reasons. Always worked out great, we always had some compost we could use and didn't really think about it. No way were we getting compost in 3 weeks tho! Perhaps Montana soil is cooler than Dr Ingham's, or whatever, it was no muss no fuss and I miss growing shit outside...
I'm going to try to find a couple of these on ebay. It was very efficient and easy to use.
http://cjonline.com/stories/033107/hom_159882891.shtml#.WJ9sbPkrLDc
 

Kind Sir

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So how long is the minimum amount of time it takes for soil to cycle? I have some Bodhi that I want to get going ASAP, but I just started cycling this weekend.

I normally start in solo cups, but what if I just used my base soil (SPM/Perlite/Malibu Compost) and had them in 1 gallon pots while my soil cycles? Could the plants thrive off just the base soil, could topdress some kelp/Neem or whatever?

@greasemonkeymann

This is what's in my soil

Ahimsa Neem cake
Kelp meal
Fish bone meal
Crab shell meal
Oyster shell flour
Glacial rock dust
 

Wetdog

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Why not just get a small bag of seed starting mix and some solo cups with drainage holes?

By the time they are ready to xplant, the soil will be done -> 3 or 4 sets of leaves.

Wet
 
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