We Have Never Been Stable

visajoe1

visajoe1

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schuylaar said:
Because you are keeping them independent at home as long as possible not costing the government for a senior facility. It's still cheaper to have an abortion than an unwanted child until age 18.
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agree on independence being important, but if you speak to anyone that works with elderly, getting food isnt what costs them independence. its their health. my ex gf ran a retired living, and my mom is a consultant for families needing long term care. ive never heard of a difficulty acquiring food as major hurdle an elderly person encounters. if they are experiencing that, which im sure someone is, its likely they are experiencing other deficiencies as well and need more help than a meals and wheel program can provide.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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visajoe1 said:
agree on independence being important, but if you speak to anyone that works with elderly, getting food isnt what costs them independence. its their health. my ex gf ran a retired living, and my mom is a consultant for families needing long term care. ive never heard of a difficulty acquiring food as major hurdle an elderly person encounters. if they are experiencing that, which im sure someone is, its likely they are experiencing other deficiencies as well and need more help than a meals and wheel program can provide.
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You are pathetic.

Racism is so important to you that you are willing to defend killing meals on wheels.

Fucking sad.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SneekyNinja said:
Spend billions on a wall that won't stop the 95% of illegal immigrants who come on planes...

Cut food assistance for the elderly.

MAGA!
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30 billion for a wall, 54 billion for the military.

nothing for health care. let it "explode". or "implode". let it explode = make it explode by not funding it.

with $84 billion dollars, every american could get healthcare.

but no.

spend more on keeping melania in a golden sky palace and kill meals on wheels and the national endowment for the arts.

spend nothing to house our homeless veterans.

fucking sick fucks.
 
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schuylaar

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ttystikk said:
Lots of interesting and rather ominous economic data points in this collection of tidbits;

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/03/200pm-water-cooler-3242017.html

I think @schuylaar is onto something.
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Past Schuylaar aha! now trending:

“On Mocking Dying Working Class White People” [Matt Stoller, Medium]. As Stoller says on the Twitter: “Yes, there’s open chatter all the time among certain Democrats on how they wish white working class males would die.” Also:
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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ttystikk said:
Lots of interesting and rather ominous economic data points in this collection of tidbits;

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/03/200pm-water-cooler-3242017.html

I think @schuylaar is onto something.
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Lots of people have been saying for years that despite the high stock market that there's a massive bubble forming in financial markets.

It's pretty obvious that without any appreciable growth in wages and net reduction in spending power due to inflation that the ridiculous "creative accounting" couldn't go on much longer.

I'm not a hardcore left winger or anything but high frequency financial trading produces no value whatsoever and I don't think should be allowed.

I can see how it evolved from literal markets in the past buy being able to change your position in fractions of a second and never actually taking delivery of any goods is a leap into the ridiculous to me.
 
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schuylaar

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SneekyNinja said:
Lots of people have been saying for years that despite the high stock market that there's a massive bubble forming in financial markets.

It's pretty obvious that without any appreciable growth in wages and net reduction in spending power due to inflation that the ridiculous "creative accounting" couldn't go on much longer.

I'm not a hardcore left winger or anything but high frequency financial trading produces no value whatsoever and I don't think should be allowed.

I can see how it evolved from literal markets in the past buy being able to change your position in fractions of a second and never actually taking delivery of any goods is a leap into the ridiculous to me.
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They're also running 60-90 days on initial order..meaning not made a payment since they started services on NEW construction projects..these are Fortune 500/1000. I've not seen this in the year I've been here..these are customers who get substantial discount off retail and they can't pay their vendors.

Something is up.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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schuylaar said:
They're also running 60-90 days on initial order..meaning not made a payment since they started services on NEW construction projects..these are Fortune 500/1000. I've not seen this in the year I've been here..these are customers who get substantial discount off retail and they can't pay their vendors.

Something is up.
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The simple macroeconomics don't make sense, no need to go down to the micro scale ;)
 
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schuylaar

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SneekyNinja said:
The simple macroeconomics don't make sense, no need to go down to the micro scale ;)
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there are simple people here who think we are doing well- we're not..it doesn't hurt to teach them what to look for on the micro..knowledge is empowerment.

Look @Flaming Pie she wants to learn and PMd me awhile ago to help her and I couldn't be bothered..I actually kind of feel bad because what I did was mean spirited not typical of when others ask me for help.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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schuylaar said:
there are simple people here who think we are doing well- we're not..it doesn't hurt to teach them what to look for on the micro..knowledge is empowerment.

Look @Flaming Pie she wants to learn and PMd me awhile ago to help her and I couldn't be bothered..I actually kind of feel bad because what I did was mean spirited not typical of when others ask me for help.
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You can bring a horse to water, you can spray the water at the horse, you can leave the horse out in the rain...

But it's still a retarded horse and doesn't know how to drink.

Pretty philosophical I think.
 
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schuylaar

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SneekyNinja said:
You can bring a horse to water, you can spray the water at the horse, you can leave the horse out in the rain...

But it's still a retarded horse and doesn't know how to drink.

Pretty philosophical I think.
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I agree, but if one..just one thought stuck..
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
30 billion for a wall, 54 billion for the military.

nothing for health care. let it "explode". or "implode". let it explode = make it explode by not funding it.

with $84 billion dollars, every american could get healthcare.

but no.

spend more on keeping melania in a golden sky palace and kill meals on wheels and the national endowment for the arts.

spend nothing to house our homeless veterans.

fucking sick fucks.
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'CLASS WARFARE'

Guess who's been winning it for 40 years?
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Fogdog said:
Yep interesting article. The term "market forces" and the naive use of statistics dresses up economics as science. But economies and markets are human creations. Markets are driven by human behavior, not some natural force.

In a PBS documentary about the market crash in 1929 one really key point was made regarding the perception that the depression started with the market crash. In fact, most of the country, the rural majority of the nation had been mired in hard times for almost a decade and there was no capacity to sustain the shock to the market crash. People naturally stopped spending which made the markets fall even more and created a huge number of unemployed. It all started when well off people in cities ignored what was going on in rural districts.

There are plenty of similarities to then and now. Including debt problems in Europe. Oh and on top of the wise words from Mike Norman in @heckler73 's video, lets not forget Trump's deregulation plans for big banks. Maybe we should start calling them big bangs. The US had Hoover in '29 and we have Trump's GOP saying very similar things to Hoover's GOP too.
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Why is human behavior not a natural force to you?
 
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