Club 315w lec

Bad Karma

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Size? Cooled hoods?
I've got three 315's, each one in it's own 3x3 tent. They're all open rated, so the only cooling needed is a 6" clip on fan aimed at the back of the reflector.

Looking really good, I'm sure we're all keen to know your yields.
Well done.
I grow for my own needs, and don't keep track of weight, but I can tell you that my yields have increased substantially since switching from LED to LEC.
 

PhuckDaPoeLease

Active Member
I've been running multiple LEC tents for a year and a half now. They've helped to produce some of the best looking, best smelling, and best smoking buds I've ever grown.

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I have been considering switching my hps/mh bulbs for LEDs (California light works) but you and @MichiganMedGrower have me reconsidering switching to LEC. BEAUTIFUL grow. Well done.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I've got three 315's, each one in it's own 3x3 tent. They're all open rated, so the only cooling needed is a 6" clip on fan aimed at the back of the reflector.


I grow for my own needs, and don't keep track of weight, but I can tell you that my yields have increased substantially since switching from LED to LEC.

How can you not have an exhaust out of an enclosed tent? It would just trap the heat and keep getting hotter. You can't only use a clip fan inside?
 

Bad Karma

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I have been considering switching my hps/mh bulbs for LEDs (California light works) but you and @MichiganMedGrower have me reconsidering switching to LEC. BEAUTIFUL grow. Well done.
I have been considering switching my hps/mh bulbs for LEDs (California light works) but you and @MichiganMedGrower have me reconsidering switching to LEC. BEAUTIFUL grow. Well done.
LED's are good, but LEC is superior, in my experience. Case in point, the same cut of Grape Ape under LED, and LEC.

Under LED (Area 51)
GA under LED.jpg
The Grape Ape under the LED looks good, has some traces of purple, and decent resin production.

Under LEC (Phantom)
GA under LEC.jpg
Grape Ape under LEC is pure purple, has better resin production, and a much stronger aroma.

How can you not have an exhaust out of an enclosed tent? It would just trap the heat and keep getting hotter. You can't only use a clip fan inside?
I've got 6" inline fans on each of the tents for exhaust, but the original question was if I was using cooled hoods, or not, you silly goose.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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LED's are good, but LEC is superior, in my experience. Case in point, the same cut of Grape Ape under LED, and LEC.

Under LED
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The Grape Ape under the LED looks good, has some traces of purple, and decent resin production.

Under LEC
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Grape Ape under LEC is pure purple, has better resin production, and a much stronger aroma.


I've got 6" inline fans on each of the tents for exhaust, but the original question was if I was using cooled hoods, or not, you silly goose.
Hey I was high and was alerted right to that post. It was an honest question. Lol :-)
 

Bad Karma

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Oh and @Bad Karma thanks for posting the comparison pics. Please remind us what led was used?

And I think the Hortilux Blue is also helping bring out colors. Now that I have a more equal spectrum bouncing all around you can almost see which ones turn purple. ;-)

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You may be right to call me "silly"
The Grape Ape was under an Area 51 LED light. So even under a high quality LED, the LEC easily out classed it.

Nice shot of your garden, MMG. Speaking of silly, that pic makes me want to start singing...
 
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ThaMagnificent

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The Grape Ape was under an Area 51 LED light. So even under a high quality LED, the LEC easily out classed it.

Nice shot of your garden, MMG. Speaking of silly, that pic makes me want to start singing...
But if I run 4 inline in a 4x8 that would be too much heat right? Should I just go 2 630s with cooled hood?
 

Evil-Mobo

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But if I run 4 inline in a 4x8 that would be too much heat right? Should I just go 2 630s with cooled hood?
Two 315's and a 630 will be the same thing except you will have less light sources so less flexibility to adjust the lights and not as even coverage. I just can't see how two 630's would be a better fit or less heat ...........Get the 315's.....

:)
 

ThaMagnificent

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Two 315's and a 630 will be the same thing except you will have less light sources so less flexibility to adjust the lights and not as even coverage. I just can't see how two 630's would be a better fit or less heat ...........Get the 315's.....

:)
Agreed any the coverage. I'm worried about the heat though... Only the 630s come hood cooled. 4 315s in a tent.... How to control the heat?
 

Bad Karma

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But if I run 4 inline in a 4x8 that would be too much heat right? Should I just go 2 630s with cooled hood?
I haven't used a 630, but it's my understanding that they put off more heat than two 315's would together. 315's run surprisingly cool, so four of them in an 8x4 should be fine, as long as your ventilation is good, and you've got some fans blowing on them.
I myself plan on switching back to an 8x4 tent and putting at least three 315's in there.
 

ThaMagnificent

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I haven't used a 630, but it's my understanding that they put off more heat than two 315's would together. 315's run surprisingly cool, so four of them in an 8x4 should be fine, as long as your ventilation is good, and you've got some fans blowing on them.
I myself plan on switching back to an 8x4 tent and putting at least three 315's in there.
Did you see sun system now makes a diamond series? Supposedly for low ceiling use. Basically, just looks like they horizontally mounted the bulb. Would this be better for a tent?
 

Bad Karma

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Did you see sun system now makes a diamond series? Supposedly for low ceiling use. Basically, just looks like they horizontally mounted the bulb. Would this be better for a tent?
I would recommend using the remote reflector/ballast models if your looking to keep the heat down. Also, for optimum effect, LEC bulbs should be mounted vertically. Which is another reason I prefer multiple 315's to one 630.
 

Evil-Mobo

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Agreed any the coverage. I'm worried about the heat though... Only the 630s come hood cooled. 4 315s in a tent.... How to control the heat?
There's an air cooled hood you can buy I think it's a hydro farm brand I will look it up for you in a bit. Growers house sells it and they also sell the prism ballast and Phillips bulbs as a kit. If I was buying a 315 today this is what I would look into. You would then have a remote ballast and AC hood I can't imagine how much better the 315 would run temp wise if this was one was looking for.

Reflector:
http://growershouse.com/phantom-315w-ceramic-metal-halide-cmh-reflector

AC kit:
http://growershouse.com/phantom-lens-system-phr3150-reflector-lens-w-flange-cooling-kit

Ballast:
http://growershouse.com/prism-lighting-science-315w-ceramic-mh-ballast-120-240v

The only other thing I'd consider would be the SS 315's which work great and I owned once. The prism ballast was being sold by them with the bulb not long ago as a kit for a great price, I'm sure they will have some kind of 420 sale coming..........

Just my $0.02
YMMV
 
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