Any powdery mildew experts?

Norby Grown

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I didn't see anything about MJ in there. Not all plants are the same nor are the powdery mildews. Don't know if you thought you were proving something there. But if you find any studies on MJ let me know and I'll review. Nice language. :)
 

theslipperbandit

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Well, he acts like a douche. He attacked the truth for no reason and blew my recommendations out of proportion to attack me personally. Attacking me I can get over, says more about him then me, but trying to say what I said was not truthful isn't acceptable.
People still read high times? :)

I couldn't care less on his knowledge on sooo many aspects, I only care about this one. And his knowledge is lacking big time.

Endo for help below? You think that PM goes into teh roots?
Come on sunshine let's see ur argument against countless papers on my point...let's see your sources that aren't sponsored by the actual company
 

Norby Grown

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Go back to basics and if I knew who u were I'd inform your patients they're receiving poison...can just picture u handing a bag to a cancer patient or some anti vacation freak with fuck all immunity. If America bans it that shits definitely bad.
First off America didn't ban it. Second, I used it over 1.5 years ago, 2x. And the rest is just drivel. And you must think MJ is terrible since the fed banned it? You should really take a logic class and learn how to research a thread when you enter it. It would stop you from making such off statements.
 

theslipperbandit

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I didn't see anything about MJ in there. Not all plants are the same nor are the powdery mildews. Don't know if you thought you were proving something there. But if you find any studies on MJ let me know and I'll review. Nice language. :)
That's why I specifically mentioned endomycorrhizal as it binds best with cannabis u dumbass. We literally have plants on land due to this symbiotic fungi
Before that they were in the water. Cannabis is a plant.
 

Norby Grown

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My reply is just above this post. And I posted no sources from teh actual company just like you posted no sources with the actual plant or PM in your "research".
Come on sunshine let's see ur argument against countless papers on my point...let's see your sources that aren't sponsored by the actual company
 

theslipperbandit

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[QUOTE="Norby Grown, post: 13483583, eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivatiors ago, 2x. And the rest is just drivel. And you must think MJ is terrible since the fed banned it? You should really take a logic class and learn how to research a thread when you enter it. It would stop you from making such off statements.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't be bothers with reading the whole thread, it's full of misinformation but if ur licenced aren't u to okay strict guidelines here's a source http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog/eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption soooo....
 

theslipperbandit

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I love how u don't share sources and you'd rarely find a Google scholar paper on cannabis in relation to the topic, it being illegal in most places being the main argument
 

Tangerine_

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Wow, are you guys all this reactive?
Do you understand what a whole load of bacteria can do to someone with a compromised immune system because you sprayed AACT into teh buds? Do you even know what all bacteria and fungal strains are in your AACT? Obviously not. Then how can you say what will happen to immunocompromised patients inhaling or eating such meds?
ANd obviously you can't even tell that you've posted conflicting info on whether or not PM is systemic. Read your post dumbass and tell me whether you think PM is systemic or not? :)

And what the hell are you talking about what happens to a patient who needs colony building treatments and how eagle 20 affects that. What do pulmonary complications have to do with using MJ that was sprayed with eagle 20 and tested to see that it has all dissipated(NONE LEFT IN THE BUDS)? It'd be safer than giving some MJ with aspergillus to a immunocompromised patient to smoke, no? If you think the aspirgillus would be better you should just stop now. If not tell me how a trace amount of eagle 20 is worse than giving them something contaminated with tons of unknown bacteria and fungal spores to inhale?
Its already been explained to you. And I'm not about debate this with you because before we could begin to advance such a dialogue you'd first need to understand the fundamentals of basic human A&P. Take this however you want, but you're just not there and its not something that can be "taught" reading articles.

The point is, there are folks here that will encounter PM and they may also be med providers. Those folks need accurate safe info. Eagle 20 is not safe. Period!
 

Norby Grown

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You realize endomycorrhizal is a group of fungi and not all of them bind with cannabis roots? you realize that plants are different? You can't just post something about a certain bacteria or fungus working with a certain plant and have that prove that every plant and every bacteria or fungus works in teh same way to stave off PM? You have to use a study which proves that a certain bacteria/fungus works together with MJ to stave off PM, you can't use grapes or squash. I'd be more apt to look into it if you had something in there with hops and the same PM strain that affects MJ but even then, MJ is pretty diverse and certain strains are more resistant to PM than others so it may not work on all strains.

That's why I specifically mentioned endomycorrhizal as it binds best with cannabis u dumbass. We literally have plants on land due to this symbiotic fungi
Before that they were in the water. Cannabis is a plant.
 

Norby Grown

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[QUOTE="Norby Grown, post: 13483583, eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivatiors ago, 2x. And the rest is just drivel. And you must think MJ is terrible since the fed banned it? You should really take a logic class and learn how to research a thread when you enter it. It would stop you from making such off statements.
I couldn't be bothers with reading the whole thread, it's full of misinformation but if ur licenced aren't u to okay strict guidelines here's a source http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog/eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption soooo....[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but I don't understand this. Please take more time to form sentences if you'd like me to read and reply. And if you won't read my posts then I am sorry but I won't continue this anymore as you are just here to troll since you can't understand the info.
 

Norby Grown

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I love how u don't share sources and you'd rarely find a Google scholar paper on cannabis in relation to the topic, it being illegal in most places being the main argument
There are lots of papers on MJ in google scholar and you must be referring to Dr. Who as he's not provided any links. I have provided all links to where my info came from.
 

theslipperbandit

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You're the only one that needs to prove anything it's already banned on tobacco and inhalation is super dangerous but look do ur thing
You realize endomycorrhizal is a group of fungi and not all of them bind with cannabis roots? you realize that plants are different? You can't just post something about a certain bacteria or fungus working with a certain plant and have that prove that every plant and every bacteria or fungus works in teh same way to stave off PM? You have to use a study which proves that a certain bacteria/fungus works together with MJ to stave off PM, you can't use grapes or squash. I'd be more apt to look into it if you had something in there with hops and the same PM strain that affects MJ but even then, MJ is pretty diverse and certain strains are more resistant to PM than others so it may not work on all strains.
I think you're referring to mytocorrizal which is the superclass then u get endo n ecto(I think) for trees


Source https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Endomycorrhizal_fungi
 

Norby Grown

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Basic human a&p?
No debate needed, it's quite clear you posted conflicting info in your post as to whether you think PM is systemic or not. Anyone can see that.
Eagle 20 is safe if there is none left in the plant at harvest. I just don't get how people can not understand this. You need to have basic understanding of testing and metabolism of eagle 20 to continue this discussion and you obviously don't. Nor do you understand what your posting if you think your links and quote don't provide conflicting info on whether or not you think PM is systemic.

Its already been explained to you. And I'm not about debate this with you because before we could begin to advance such a dialogue you'd first need to understand the fundamentals of basic human A&P. Take this however you want, but you're just not there and its not something that can be "taught" reading articles.

The point is, there are folks here that will encounter PM and they may also be med providers. Those folks need accurate safe info. Eagle 20 is not safe. Period!
 

theslipperbandit

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I couldn't be bothers with reading the whole thread, it's full of misinformation but if ur licenced aren't u to okay strict guidelines here's a source http://www.coloradogreenlab.com/blog/eagle-20-and-myclobutanil-in-the-context-of-cannabis-cultivation-and-consumption soooo....
I'm sorry but I don't understand this. Please take more time to form sentences if you'd like me to read and reply. And if you won't read my posts then I am sorry but I won't continue this anymore as you are just here to troll since you can't understand the info.[/QUOTE]
Just follow the link u moron that shits banned on tobacco so once cannabis gets less taboo that'll soon follow...bet u flush aswell n defoliate
 

theslipperbandit

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Are you a bit slow? Pls stop quoting me I won't converse with someone who refuses advice from multiple members.just block me and fuck off
 

Norby Grown

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When applied correctly, myclobutanil is known to have low toxicity to humans. Myclobutanil-based fungicides, including Eagle 20EW, are not currently approved for use in the United States on tobacco, the only (other than marijuana) smokable agricultural commodity. The toxicity and health effects of myclobutanil in the context of combustion/inhalation (versus ingestion) have not been assessed.

Have NOT BEEN ASSESSED! as in they haven't gone thru the testing to get it ok'd. If they went thru the testing they would come up with a time frame and amount you can spray, just like they do with everything else. It hasn't been BANNED it's not even been looked in to for guidelines for using on tobacco. That doesn't say whether it's bad or ok for tobacco. If you can't understand the difference then you should not be arguing that the US "ban" is reason enough to think it's terrible stuff. The EPA is shitty at figuring out what's not ok for us as you can see with roundup and tons of other chems they use on our food. It's just not a good guideline to use to figure out the toxicity of something. So that argument fails in my eyes. The best thing to do with anything you spray is to make sure it's gone by the time you harvest it.

I'm sorry but I don't understand this. Please take more time to form sentences if you'd like me to read and reply. And if you won't read my posts then I am sorry but I won't continue this anymore as you are just here to troll since you can't understand the info.
Just follow the link u moron that shits banned on tobacco so once cannabis gets less taboo that'll soon follow...bet u flush aswell n defoliate[/QUOTE]
 

theslipperbandit

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You gotta peep this tool and his Eagle 20 rap......Start on pg 1 and then follow his decent into BS and desperation to justify his illiterate mentality...and increasing butt hurt from truth slapping "logic" in the ass.

I figure a cpl of you may want some fun time...TAG.....
Ah I said I'd stop reading but fuck me he's got to be a troll..not gonna respond to him anymore
 
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