Hygrozyme turns res cloudy

At week 5 of flower where I start adding honey (instead of hydro store sugar addatives) and hygrozyme. Other than the tbs of honey per 4 gallons my other non standard adds are a b12 tablet per 4 gallons (instead of buying b52) and Epsom salts for magnesium. Ive noticed that about a day after new mix my resevior is tan and cloudy. This doesn't seem to have any I'll effect. Ive continued through a few complete cycles with this. But the cloudy has me curious. Is the cloudy resivoir normal? My guess is that it is a reaction between the honey and hygrozyme. Id appreciate any users of it to let me know your experience.

Honey doesn't go with plants, stop using it.

Yodaweed said:

Honey doesn't go with plants, stop using it.

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Food grade sugars work fine. I prefer this one after researching it and I have found better results using it. However I believe that I'm using too much sugar and the hygrozyme is atracking it. Next change I'm going to use less. I'm almost sure it's cloudy because of their interacting.

[QUOTE="TherealMickey, post: 13466175, member: 950617"Not that I don't appreciate the feedback but this is not uncommon where I'm from and I know any food grade sugars work fine. I prefer this one after researching it and I have found better results using it. However I believe that I'm using too much sugar and the hygrozyme is atracking it. Next change I'm going to use less. I'm almost sure it's cloudy because of their interacting.[/QUOTE]

Why are you putting honey(or any sugar for that matter) into your reservoir??? It's completely unnecessary and only leads to problems.

Johnny Lawrence said:

Why are you putting honey(or any sugar for that matter) into your reservoir??? It's completely unnecessary and only leads to problems.

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Replacement of sugars lost during defoliation of fan leaves done once during flower at 5 weeks. If not done the remaining fans will deteriorate more quickly during ripening. I'm surprised by all this feedback on not adding sugars when the hydro stores sell sugars for this specific purpose. I'm just using a cheaper replacement that does as good or better.

I reduced the honey. It clouded up one day and then back to normal after a ph adjustment

TherealMickey said:

Replacement of sugars lost during defoliation of fan leaves done once during flower at 5 weeks. If not done the remaining fans will deteriorate more quickly during ripening. I'm surprised by all this feedback on not adding sugars when the hydro stores sell sugars for this specific purpose. I'm just using a cheaper replacement that does as good or better.

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Haha - what??? Plants don't uptake sugar.

Hydro stores sell sugar because suckers continue to buy it.

Unless your feeding bennies or making compost tea, sugar is useless in hydro. And even then it's not really necessary.

Johnny Lawrence said:

Haha - what??? Plants don't uptake sugar.

Hydro stores sell sugar because suckers continue to buy it.

Unless your feeding bennies or making compost tea, sugar is useless in hydro. And even then it's not really necessary.

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Ok well that's fine. My experience is that it helps and we seem to agree it doesn't hurt. Seems like my topic has been hijacked. Since this thread wasn't helping I sought advice elsewhere and found that I was adding too much. And the combination of enzymes with sugars do interact making very diluted honey beer the way I was doing this. It shoots the ph up also. So my new plan is to separate the applications between weekly changes unless someone has a better idea.

TherealMickey said:

Ok well that's fine. My experience is that it helps and we seem to agree it doesn't hurt.

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It does hurt. There's no need for it. It hurts your pocket, for starters. Why buy something you don't need that doesn't benefit you or your plants in any way? Seriously, sugar does nothing but invite potential problems. You know what loves sugar? Pythium.

Why combine sugar with enzymes when I'm telling you that sugar does NOTHING for you? Seriously, I don't get it. Explain to me what sugar does for a plant. Keep in mind that I already told you that plants don't uptake sugar. Plants will use some of the micro elements present in molasses, sure, but they in no way absorb/uptake sugar.

But if you want to keep wasting money, go for it. The nute companies love people like you.

I think I can afford a couple of honey packets

TherealMickey said:

I think I can afford a couple of honey packets

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That do nothing for your plants but invite potential problems. Have at it, since you seem to already know everything.

Update: Hygrozyme chemist confirmed it is issue with honey. Im not a fan of using molasses so I'll use maple syrup next round.

TherealMickey said:

At week 5 of flower where I start adding honey (instead of hydro store sugar addatives) and hygrozyme. Other than the tbs of honey per 4 gallons my other non standard adds are a b12 tablet per 4 gallons (instead of buying b52) and Epsom salts for magnesium. Ive noticed that about a day after new mix my resevior is tan and cloudy. This doesn't seem to have any I'll effect. Ive continued through a few complete cycles with this. But the cloudy has me curious. Is the cloudy resivoir normal? My guess is that it is a reaction between the honey and hygrozyme. Id appreciate any users of it to let me know your experience.

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This will happen with most carbs especially molasses based products. its fine and wont hurt anything.

Yodaweed said:

Honey doesn't go with plants, stop using it.

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TherealMickey said:

Food grade sugars work fine. I prefer this one after researching it and I have found better results using it. However I believe that I'm using too much sugar and the hygrozyme is atracking it. Next change I'm going to use less. I'm almost sure it's cloudy because of their interacting.

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TherealMickey said:

Update: Hygrozyme chemist confirmed it is issue with honey. Im not a fan of using molasses so I'll use maple syrup next round.

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Yodaweed said:

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^ this

I really don't get the point of going to forums and asking for advice, then when advice is given, you basically give those who offered the advice the middle finger.

Why even bother posting this?

But if you want some real advice, you should feed your plants Brawndo: It's got what plants crave.

Yodaweed said:

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^this

In no way this is meant with any disrespect...but Please read and study!
#my2cents....do not EVER add non-fermented (organic) touch-ups to a HYDROPONIC system! Brewing a tea FIRST is what you are looking for.
I would suggest you to read Heisenberg posts here at RIU.
Cheers!
FR