SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

I use cedar for my screens and also diatomaceous earth! Its all natural and gets in the bugs exoskeletons and dehydrates them, great stuff! and yes wow SIPs grow some monster plants! or should i say bushes at this point lol i could probably give these things to the knights who say Ni and they would say its an acceptable shrubbery! (sorry my nerd was showing there for a min )

Yodaweed said:

Try some mosquito dunks too

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hey nice name! (-;

Anybody seen this thing? The "GroBucket"
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1942221820/you-dont-need-a-green-thumb-you-just-need-the-grob

Looks cool that with this you don't need two buckets. How they do the water level indicator is clever too.

meangreengrowinmachine said:

I use cedar for my screens and also diatomaceous earth! Its all natural and gets in the bugs exoskeletons and dehydrates them, great stuff! and yes wow SIPs grow some monster plants! or should i say bushes at this point lol i could probably give these things to the knights who say Ni and they would say its an acceptable shrubbery! (sorry my nerd was showing there for a min )

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Dude that was awesome , yes i played chess in high school and watch game of thrones

nolem1234 said:

Anybody seen this thing? The "GroBucket"
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1942221820/you-dont-need-a-green-thumb-you-just-need-the-grob

Looks cool that with this you don't need two buckets. How they do the water level indicator is clever too.

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Looks like a guy could just cut off the bottom part of a bucket and make that easy plus i think some of us could copy and use his level indicator

Tim Fox said:

Dude that was awesome , yes i played chess in high school and watch game of thrones

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Umm, that was a monty python reference i do believe.


Kids today. No respect for the classics.

greg nr said:

Umm, that was a monty python reference i do believe.

Kids today. No respect for the classics.

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Yes it was!

nolem1234 said:

Anybody seen this thing? The "GroBucket"
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1942221820/you-dont-need-a-green-thumb-you-just-need-the-grob

Looks cool that with this you don't need two buckets. How they do the water level indicator is clever too.

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I like the water level indicator idea... basically a float with a long steam and tri color on top.... but otherwise seems like a standard sip i have seen many make on here.

greg nr said:

Umm, that was a monty python reference i do believe.

Kids today. No respect for the classics.

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Yes you are corrects ,i was showing my own neediness

[Qkindsa "meangreengrowinmachine, post: 13496651, member: 609408"]I like the water level indicator idea... basically a float with a long steam and tri color on top.... but otherwise seems like a standard sip i have seen many make on here.[/QUOTE]
I kinda laughed because in the video they're all about being enganeer

frankslan said:

Help guys i got fungus gnats. I did a straw alphalfa mulch with living mulch growing in. Plan is to ditch that the mulc layers. Next would covering the container up with plastic will that help or make the problems worse.

I have nematodes on the way too.

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I use plastic on top of my pots and haven't had any gnats.

meangreengrowinmachine said:

if you are looking for heat as opposed to light get a reptile light or something like that.. only about 8 bucks at most pet stores or big box

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That's a great idea. I did add a bulb in the closet like Tim Fox suggested. It seemed to help. It allowed my fan to cycle on more often to get the moisture out but still retain some heat. But, I like the idea of using the reptile bulb.

Tim Fox said:

Oh that's good, I really cheaper out , what's funnyis running these efficient led cobs and then having to putheat back in lol

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It's a bit ironic. I'm glad I now know I can add a few more COBs and also get a bit more heat too. I guess the bulb trick will have to suffice for this grow.

Tim Fox said:

[Qkindsa "meangreengrowinmachine, post: 13496651, member: 609408"]I like the water level indicator idea... basically a float with a long steam and tri color on top.... but otherwise seems like a standard sip i have seen many make on here.

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I kinda laughed because in the video they're all about being enganeer[/QUOTE]

But, they have fancy background music and slo-mo shots of plants growing! Honestly it would be nice if a company like Earthbox made more variations, shapes and sizes of pots and components... almost like a kit of parts you could mix and match depending on how you want to set up the grow. But, ultimately the DIY is pretty damn easy.

meangreengrowinmachine said:

if you are looking for heat as opposed to light get a reptile light or something like that.. only about 8 bucks at most pet stores or big box

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Would the reptile bulb be proving IR, UVA & UVB? If that's the case then it might raise my internal leaf temp. and allow me to run my room air temps. lower maybe around 76 - 79F. I know right now my leaf temps are whatever my air temp is and therefore I keep the room around 80 - 85F. Anyway, a little bit off the SIP topic.

PDX Joe said:

Would the reptile bulb be proving IR, UVA & UVB? If that's the case then it might raise my internal leaf temp. and allow me to run my room air temps. lower maybe around 76 - 79F. I know right now my leaf temps are whatever my air temp is and therefore I keep the room around 80 - 85F. Anyway, a little bit off the SIP topic.

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They do give off some UVA and UVB but I don't think that it is much..... hmm found this maybe it will help

1. REPRESENTATIVE LIGHT SOURCES AND THEIR PRINCIPAL TYPES OF RADIATION
Note: Wavelengths responsible for conversion of 7-dehydrocholesterol to cholecalciferol: 280-315nm

SOURCE

RADIATION

Sun

UVB 290-320 nm, UVA 320-400 NM, Visible 400-700 NM, Infrared >700 NM

Incandescents (frosted, reflector floods, spots, halogen lamps

UVA 320-400 NM (low levels), Visible 400-700 NM, Infrared >700 NM

Fluorescents:

Chroma 50, Colortone 50, Design50, Cool White, Warm White

Visible 400-700 NM
UVB 280-320 NM (low levels), UVA 320-400 NM (low levels)

Plant lights

Emphasize red and blue spectrums within Visible 400-700 NM

Blacklights (BL)

UVB 290-320 NM (low levels similar to Vita-Lite), UVA 320-400 NM

Blacklight Blue (BLB)

Same as BL but with less blue light emitted; reported harmful to eyes

Sun lamps, Germicidal Lamps, Phototherapy lamps

High levels of UVB causes skin cancer, cataracts, etc.

Other UV Sources:
High Intensity Discharge Mercury, Metal Halide

Visible 400-700 NM, Infrared >700 NM; UVA and UVB are shielded due to extensive damage to skin and eyes caused by such high intensity

Mercury vapor comboheat/UV product

Extremely high output of UVA and UVB posing health hazards to humans and reptiles in typical home setting

here is the source site:
http://www.anapsid.org/uvtable.html

I grow in a cold basement and what i ended up doing it routeing my caborn filter exhaust into another light proofed "entry room" before the actual grow room (intent is to make this into a possible veg room or more flowering space if needed) and then i pull intake from there as well... it keeps the intake air warm..(albeit I'm sure the co2 is lacking from this) I now need to vent the entry room in order to have more co2 but things seem to be going ok like this.

PDX Joe said:

Whave uld the reptile bulb be proving IR, UVA & UVB? If that's the case then it might raise my internal leaf temp. and allow me to run my room air temps. lower maybe around 76 - 79F. I know right now my leaf temps are whatever my air temp is and therefore I keep the room around 80 - 85F. Anyway, a little bit off the SIP topic.

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There is a thread on here about uv lighting and i have seen many guys fry Thier plants with these things , those who use then we'll set them to run about 15 min a day , but that's the bigger uv bulbs i suupise we could put them down low and not pointing at the leaves? Just guessing

Tim Fox said:

There is a thread on here about uv lighting and i have seen many guys fry Thier plants with these things , those who use then we'll set them to run about 15 min a day , but that's the bigger uv bulbs i suupise we could put them down low and not pointing at the leaves? Just guessing

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You can really hurt yourself with large UV bulbs as well... I think that might be a little further then I am willing to go lol... If i need that good of stuff ill go guerrilla and use the sun... really these large scale SIPs make that a lot more viable since you can control the water content and not have to revisit your spot too often.... i have been contemplating this recently lol

meangreengrowinmachine said:

You can really hurt yourself with large UV bulbs as well... I think that might be a little further then I am willing to go lol... If i need that good of stuff ill go guerrilla and use the sun... really these large scale SIPs make that a lot more viable since you can control the water content and not have to revisit your spot too often.... i have been contemplating this recently lol

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Build a cistern and connect to the SIP reservoir and then all they might need is occasional compost/ ferts. Unless it's in a place that doesn't get any rain.