Opinion on botanicare nutes?

Yodaweed

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It just means the fertilizer is supplied with the irrigation water.

You are stretching it to be automated fertigation.

You argue against the hydroponic hobby industry but yet you now argue and label using its terms. How convenient for you.

And hydroponics is water culture with the roots in water or a nuetral medium where the water must contain all of the elements the plants need.

I grow in an amended peat, bark and perlite mix. And add nutrients to their hand watered mix when the soil finally depletes. And I do it to feed the soil. Not the plants directly. Read about citation exchange (CEC).

I use unadjusted well water from seed/clone to about week 8-10 of their life.

Call it whatever you want. You are still wrong.

In fact it seems you have a lot more reading to do if you want to come off as an expert here.
I don't want to argue or fight with you , i can see you feel like your right and just gonna leave it at that, one day you might understand i'm not trying to fight you but show you another way. Good luck i wish you the best have a good night.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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I don't want to argue or fight with you , i can see you feel like your right and just gonna leave it at that, one day you might understand i'm not trying to fight you but show you another way. Good luck i wish you the best have a good night.
Still on your organic agenda til the end.

Why would you think I need you to push me in that direction? You don't know what I know or may try. Or even what I have done already.

I don't want to fight either. But I tend to with one sided agenda based arguments.

And telling me I can see you on ig doesn't help us. Post pics here for credibility. I always do.
 

chemphlegm

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Organicare is an organic product made by Botanicare. One bag at 60 bucks lasts me months and I've never had better weed
its awesome and I use it.
if it wasnt organic and required the slaughter of five hundred unicorns per bag..fukkem I'd still use the ground unicorn ferts

 

chemphlegm

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botanicare nutrients are hydro nutrients, that's why they come in water and are salt based. they are the same thing as general hydro 3 part, and other water based salt nutrients. If you are buying salts the best way to get them is dry so you don't pay to ship water and to water down your products. to me botanicare is just another company that preys on noobs with their fancy labeled bottles and hyped up named products, which can be purchased for a fraction of what they charge you. Just read the second post on this thread, it sums it up all very well.
botanicare makes dried nutrients and makes organicare nutrients=organic chicken shit dried pelletized.
some people cannot work with dried salts as easily as liquid ferts making liquid a better choice for them.

Cost? who cares of the cost? one bud from one branch from one plant pays for months and months of any of these fertilizers and added to ease of use, fancy labels and ridiculously fab results. Why do some people concern themselves with what others spend like the cry of the jealous poor.


I am considering switching to a liquid botanicare to save the downwind chicken shit experience., couldnt care less about the cost to do so only ease and safety of use and end results matter to me.
 

visajoe1

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What about the families that rely on these local companies where they work for a living?

I know I have continued to work for a company that was bought out. Only the owner left. Everyone else still worked there.
yep. a business is made of people. people have family. so when someone calls a company a nazi, its rather silly because they are calling all their employees nazi's. however, that is very unlikely to be true
 

visajoe1

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I also didn't mention the town marshal's office is right across the street. Discretion has always been a part of my 40+ years of growing. I learned that back in the 70s' after a 3 year stint for weed.
glad you learned a safe way. i learned the hard way too about 16 years ago, but was fortunate a new proposition at that time allowed me a suspended sentence and probation if i completed a program. i did. kept my nose clean since, just not worth it. just a patient now with a new hobby :bigjoint:
 

swedsteven

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When i make my mix my ph go straight to 6 ph from 7.4 tap water .i use they liquiqnute and see a little burn at 2/3strenght . They are a little more space between de node compare to my true living soil organic mix . Same. Clone .

My organic mix is dark green with no tip burn .just so better ...cant wait to see final result and smoke those 2 .
 

jacrispy

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I've used PBP on all my grows, but
this round im using DG-FP on 1/2.
im adding silica to my schedule this run.
added k2so4 last round
but wont be this time.20170723_193723.jpg running glg ruby reds & gorilla bubble.
 

swedsteven

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My feeding chart
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Botanicare bud 3 week flowering cheese
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Organic mix ammandment ,compost and old flush promix same clone cheese
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Just perfect thank rasta roy for show me the way!
 
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Yodaweed

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botanicare makes dried nutrients and makes organicare nutrients=organic chicken shit dried pelletized.
some people cannot work with dried salts as easily as liquid ferts making liquid a better choice for them.

Cost? who cares of the cost? one bud from one branch from one plant pays for months and months of any of these fertilizers and added to ease of use, fancy labels and ridiculously fab results. Why do some people concern themselves with what others spend like the cry of the jealous poor.


I am considering switching to a liquid botanicare to save the downwind chicken shit experience., couldnt care less about the cost to do so only ease and safety of use and end results matter to me.
it's so over priced, you can get the same ingredients for 1/10th the price they are charging you, and i have no jealous nature, it's common sense not to spend more money than something is worth.

Their bottled nutrients aren't organic and don't grow very good tasting buds, might as well just bust out the general hydro 3 part at that point if you just want some hydro tasting buds. All these bottled salts work the same, and give the same crappy hydro taste. If you are dumb enough to fall for the marketing that's on you.
 

swedsteven

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i didn't really see enough benefit for me to keep using it..
i am not sure if silica is gonna be staying in my bucket either..
botanicare grows nice smoke everytime,
but is it complete?
I've been reading homebrewer's threads lately...no cal-mag, no silica, only dg-fp
all the way...
Yes dyna gro is good stuff but it salt i think u should try some organic soil water from the begining till harvest
If u want u cant make compost tea. I am sold .
 
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jacrispy

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Yes dyna gro is good stuff but it salt i think u should try some organic soil water from the begining till harvest
If u want u cant make compost tea. Im sold .
I'm all about the salts for a long time/\/\those are gallons on my shelf:bigjoint:...
 

swedsteven

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My closet is full off water and salt fuck !
Maybe 15 gallon taking dust from canna to to dyna grow to ......,,..and now botanicare fuck me lol
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Oo and dyna gro foliage and dyna gro grow for boost p
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chemphlegm

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it's so over priced, you can get the same ingredients for 1/10th the price they are charging you, and i have no jealous nature, it's common sense not to spend more money than something is worth.

Their bottled nutrients aren't organic and don't grow very good tasting buds, might as well just bust out the general hydro 3 part at that point if you just want some hydro tasting buds. All these bottled salts work the same, and give the same crappy hydro taste. If you are dumb enough to fall for the marketing that's on you.

you think so? I spend $1.25 per plant/flowering bucket/per flowering cylce. 50# bag composted and organic omri delivered for 75$, the bag lasts me almost 3 months. how much you pay/sell for a quarter pound of plant?.... tripping over dollars to pick up nickels my man.
 

chemphlegm

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it's so over priced, you can get the same ingredients for 1/10th the price they are charging you, and i have no jealous nature, it's common sense not to spend more money than something is worth.

Their bottled nutrients aren't organic and don't grow very good tasting buds, might as well just bust out the general hydro 3 part at that point if you just want some hydro tasting buds. All these bottled salts work the same, and give the same crappy hydro taste. If you are dumb enough to fall for the marketing that's on you.

Sorry you havent found success in hydro nutes. I havent found one that didnt produce awesome buds here. I followed directions every time and they rocked it, never an off flavor.
only reason I went organic/dirt style is I couldnt succeed with an organic hydro system.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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i didn't really see enough benefit for me to keep using it..
i am not sure if silica is gonna be staying in my bucket either..
botanicare grows nice smoke everytime,
but is it complete?
I've been reading homebrewer's threads lately...no cal-mag, no silica, only dg-fp
all the way...

Yes it's complete. In the pure Blend Pro and kind trio they add seaweed extract for micro nutrients to be much more complete than the elements Dyna Grow adds.

Seaweed extract has 60 trace elements and natural growth hormones in it.

I have never needed a supplement for anything and I usually use pure Blend Pro Grow only. Even in Pro mix it was fine.

It also has some humic acid so it naturally helps the plants absorb these nutrients.
 

MichiganMedGrower

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it's so over priced, you can get the same ingredients for 1/10th the price they are charging you, and i have no jealous nature, it's common sense not to spend more money than something is worth.

Their bottled nutrients aren't organic and don't grow very good tasting buds, might as well just bust out the general hydro 3 part at that point if you just want some hydro tasting buds. All these bottled salts work the same, and give the same crappy hydro taste. If you are dumb enough to fall for the marketing that's on you.

You just keep posting this very misleading and incorrect set of statements. They are your opinion only and completely unsubstantiated.

The only salts in pure Blend Pro are mag and calcium and whatever trace elements are present in the seaweed extract and worm castings and such they include. It is an all natural mix and only not OMRI certified because of a process they use on one of the elements.

Kind is made of calcium nitrate and other typical NPK and then the seaweed extract serves to fill in trace elements. So a hybrid mix.

If it says organic like the dry ferts it is OMRI certified just like your organic soil inputs. Which are mostly mined and processed from other industries waste anyway. and some stuff like guanos can be sourced and mined in horrible ways that kill the ecosystem that it came from. And there are no regulations in some of these countries for quality control or even bacteria control. Hurry up and order from Amazon.

If fed properly and complete you can not taste the difference between a bottled fertilizer grow and an organic soil grow with teas or even water only as the only elements getting inside the plant are broken down into the same usable forms. Chemicals.

You are the one falling for marketing. The. chemical based hydro Grow is the cleanest way to grow a plant if you are worried about what is in your inputs. Organic inputs are and can be dirty or even toxic from the source.

And we are not spending more than the stuff is worth. We are spending what it costs. And we like to for the convenience and many for the clean storage and space savings.

At least just say you prefer an organic grow. We have done many blind tests and no grower or patient has ever consistently been able to pick out which is which in my and my old caregivers tests and most picked the hybrid bud not full hydro or organic.

I think it was because the hybrid bud got more complete nutrition and was just better pot all around.

It tasted more of its individual strain characteristics and was more potent I thought but I only picked it 2 out of 3 times myself.

It's all bullshit opinion Yodaweed. Both sides of these arguments. All sides especially when there is a personal investment or agenda. Even reality goes out the window to prove the misguided point.
 
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