Club 315w lec

NugHeuser · Oct 15, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Maybe too obvious of a question but is the Galaxy dimmed? And is the bulb properly installed?

Yeah the bulb twisted firmly for seemed like half a rotation, all the way to a solid stop. And no they are not dimmed, they were on 100% when they came and I haven't switched them since

MichiganMedGrower · Oct 15, 2017

NugHeuser said:
Yeah the bulb twisted firmly for seemed like half a rotation, all the way to a solid stop. And no they are not dimmed, they were on 100% when they came and I haven't switched them since

Got me bud. I have never seen a line in a pic with the Galaxy and Phillips 315 3100k.

It is definitely a low frequency square wave ballast.

I did try the dimmer in every setting before I ever took a pic but I don't have any idea past what I asked. Sorry.

SchmoeJoe · Oct 15, 2017

ttystikk said:
Two pounds from what light? And no, numbers are anything but irrelevant. Only those who don't care about results would say that.

My point is that you're the one who needs to show your work to be credible.

Eye Hortilux Super HPS 1000's in sun system xxxl Magnum hoods.

I could have absolutely no experience whatsoever and it would have no bearing at all on the validity of the comparisons that I was talking about.

Carolina Dream'n · Oct 15, 2017

Room 3. Gorilla Glue day 26. This room usually out yields room 1&2 because of all 6 lights overlapping. Tray stands are on wheels and can be spread apart for maintenance/lollipoping.
DTW Ionic Bloom, Ersa Elixir and calcium hypochlorite.

ttystikk · Oct 15, 2017

SchmoeJoe said:
Eye Hortilux Super HPS 1000's in sun system xxxl Magnum hoods.

I could have absolutely no experience whatsoever and it would have no bearing at all on the validity of the comparisons that I was talking about.

2lbs(900g)/1000W= .9gpw

Carolina Dream'n said:
Room 3. Gorilla Glue day 26. This room usually out yields room 1&2 because of all 6 lights overlapping. Tray stands are on wheels and can be spread apart for maintenance/lollipoping.
DTW Ionic Bloom, Ersa Elixir and calcium hypochlorite.
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6lbs(2700g)/315Wx6(1890)= 1.42gpw

Any questions?

SchmoeJoe · Oct 15, 2017

ttystikk said:
2lbs(900g)/1000W= .9gpw

6lbs(2700g)/315Wx6(1890)= 1.42gpw

Any questions?

As I've already said, I'm not growing for yield. To be clear about that I have some very low yielding strains that I grow for personal use and for specific card holders that I grow for. I am not a cash cropper who measures the skill of others strictly by their yield per watt. And again, comparing yields doesn't prove anything.

This whole thing started over me saying that there are side by side comparisons that clearly show that air cooled lights yield more light at the canopy than non air cooled because they can be kept closer. Nothing about my yield compared to someone else's changes that or has anything to do with it.

I'm sorry you're so bent out of shape over me mentioning someone else's side by side comparisons but I'm getting tired of kicking this dead horse.

Bad Karma · Oct 15, 2017

ilovetoskiatalta said:
I am looking to buy some more 315cmh lamps.
I have been running the phantom 315 and it has been fine. I like remote ballasts and I will upgrade to cooled vents in the new flower room. I want to add 4 of these. I will be running 240v trying to keep the draw down. The lights will be on there own circuit. I want to know what ballasts are being used.
Can someone tell me if these are better ballasts? I am not looking to buy inexpensive equipment. I want safe efficient equipment.

Also can I cool 4 lamps with one fan? Run a Y connector with a 6" fan? They will be in a square pattern.

@DemonTrich @ttystikk @Bad Karma @MichiganMedGrower @Javadog @GroErr

@Carolina Dream'n my room looks similar tp yours and I do not run cooled lights now? Is it neccesary?

I like Hydrofarms Phantom II ballast best. I know, I know, not the most popular choice around here. I own three LEC lamps and two are Phantoms. Why do I like them so much? They'll auto restrike after a power outage, and as far as I'm aware, no other remote ballast has that feature. I like being certain that my lights are on when they're supposed to be on. This is a personal preference and I do not expect everyone to share it. To each their own.
Has one of my Phantoms failed on me in the past? Yes. It was the original model and replaced under warranty. The two Phantom II's that I have now have given me no issues at all.
Prism seems like it could be the best choice for those looking for an inexpensive, but solid, square wave ballast. I have one of the Galaxy ballasts and I'm not that impressed with it.

Evil-Mobo · Oct 15, 2017

Bad Karma said:
I like Hydrofarms Phantom II ballast best. I know, I know, not the most popular choice around here. I own three LEC lamps and two are Phantoms. Why do I like them so much? They'll auto restrike after a power outage, and as far as I'm aware, no other remote ballast has that feature. I like being certain that my lights are on when they're supposed to be on. This is a personal preference and I do not expect everyone to share it. To each their own.
Has one of my Phantoms failed on me in the past? Yes. It was the original model and replaced under warranty. The two Phantom II's that I have now have given me no issues at all.
Prism seems like it could be the best choice for those looking for an inexpensive, but solid, square wave ballast. I have one of the Galaxy ballasts and I'm not that impressed with it.

Only thing I will add is the Phantom's have an Air Cooled kit for their reflector and it keeps the bulb in proper orientation. Good to see you around brother hope all is well.

ttystikk · Oct 15, 2017

SchmoeJoe said:
As I've already said, I'm not growing for yield. To be clear about that I have some very low yielding strains that I grow for personal use and for specific card holders that I grow for. I am not a cash cropper who measures the skill of others strictly by their yield per watt. And again, comparing yields doesn't prove anything.

This whole thing started over me saying that there are side by side comparisons that clearly show that air cooled lights yield more light at the canopy than non air cooled because they can be kept closer. Nothing about my yield compared to someone else's changes that or has anything to do with it.

I'm sorry you're so bent out of shape over me mentioning someone else's side by side comparisons but I'm getting tired of kicking this dead horse.

You're the one who tried to tell us what we're doing wrong, remember?

SchmoeJoe · Oct 15, 2017

ttystikk said:
You're the one who tried to tell us what we're doing wrong, remember?

I never said anything about what someone else was doing being wrong. I just said that it's been demonstrated that a light produced more light at the canopy when air cooled because of the closer proximity.

Carolina Dream'n said:
I see most people running air cooled lights using large hoods keeping plants 12" away from plant tops. Sometimes even less. The radiant heat from the hood will make the top of the plant transpire faster then the bottom leading to "burnt yellow leaves" on the colas. People then think they have deficiences and over react causing more damage than if they had just left it alone.

Yea, the colas get huge but the quality drops significantly.

So what you're saying is that they actually don't cause deficiencies?

MichiganMedGrower · Oct 16, 2017

Bad Karma said:
I like Hydrofarms Phantom II ballast best. I know, I know, not the most popular choice around here. I own three LEC lamps and two are Phantoms. Why do I like them so much? They'll auto restrike after a power outage, and as far as I'm aware, no other remote ballast has that feature. I like being certain that my lights are on when they're supposed to be on. This is a personal preference and I do not expect everyone to share it. To each their own.
Has one of my Phantoms failed on me in the past? Yes. It was the original model and replaced under warranty. The two Phantom II's that I have now have given me no issues at all.
Prism seems like it could be the best choice for those looking for an inexpensive, but solid, square wave ballast. I have one of the Galaxy ballasts and I'm not that impressed with it.

I remember the restrike issue but never found out the answers. But you don't like Galaxy because you say it doesn't re strike after power outage?

Mine turns back on fine after short and long outages and once a spike blew the growroom circuit and when I reset the breakers the LEC came on with the HPS. All on Galaxy ballasts.

The hps was plugged into a Titan 2 light Digital controller and the LEC and analog titan timer and a high temp kill switch.

Still not sure why you had a problem. Not challenging. Just don't see why it wouldn't come in if plugged in to a hot circuit.

NugHeuser · Oct 16, 2017

MichiganMedGrower said:
Got me bud. I have never seen a line in a pic with the Galaxy and Phillips 315 3100k.

It is definitely a low frequency square wave ballast.

I did try the dimmer in every setting before I ever took a pic but I don't have any idea past what I asked. Sorry.

They still have good readings on my par meter and my plants like them so they should do fine I guess

MichiganMedGrower · Oct 16, 2017

NugHeuser said:
They still have good readings on my par meter and my plants like them so they should do fine I guess

I searched and can not find one pic of a 315 room with lines like a mag ballast and hps on the internet.

Ttystick has been saying that there are non square wave low frequency ballasts but there is no such thing. And the Galaxy ballast is certainly made to spec for Phillips.

Also electronic hps ballasts don't do it either only magnetic ballasts.

I would unplug everything and try again. I would even swap bulbs and try them individually. Maybe you have a faulty ballast?

ilovetoskiatalta · Oct 16, 2017

Does anyone make a domestically made ballast or is everything made in China?

tombsy · Oct 16, 2017

DE 630 vs 2 SE 315 (one fixture) vs 2 315 (two fixtures)?

Leaning towards DE 630 as it seems to cover a 4x4 the best.

MarWan · Oct 16, 2017

I've been using Philips 330w CDM on a 400w Metal Halide Mag ballast, It reminds me of old floros when it switches on.
https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/59300/MHS-232595.html

I also run 2 more 315w Philips mogul base on 2 Philips LFSW Ballasts.
I use a Canon Ti Rebel 3 to shoot pics of my grow, and never had problems with bands in my pics. I just set the appropriate light source setting in the cam and that's it.

Carolina Dream'n · Oct 16, 2017

SchmoeJoe said:
I never said anything about what someone else was doing being wrong. I just said that it's been demonstrated that a light produced more light at the canopy when air cooled because of the closer proximity.

So what you're saying is that they actually don't cause deficiencies?

No they cause deficiencies. The plants can't transpire fast enough at the top, causing a decreased nutrient need for half the plant. Which never ever is gonna work. You'll be burning tops or be having nitrogen deficiencies on the bottom.

theinhibitor · Oct 16, 2017

jacrispy said:
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Mixed lighting: the best and puts to rest any stupid arguments on which is superior.

I used mixed myself, just LED and HPS though.

SchmoeJoe · Oct 16, 2017

theinhibitor said:
Mixed lighting: the best and puts to rest any stupid arguments on which is superior.

I used mixed myself, just LED and HPS though.

I've been plotting on running plasmas or lec with either de hps or led. I'm still holding out for the release of the 1000 watt lec from Growers Choice though. That could be a game changer.

SchmoeJoe · Oct 16, 2017

Carolina Dream'n said:
No they cause deficiencies. The plants can't transpire fast enough at the top, causing a decreased nutrient need for half the plant. Which never ever is gonna work. You'll be burning tops or be having nitrogen deficiencies on the bottom.

If the plants are that hot at the tops than the problem isn't deficiencies but having the lights way too close.

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