The Solution to ALL growing problems: Stop using the abominable synthetic method.

greg nr

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people don't grow 12 corn plants in their basements, and give corn seeds to their friends, so they can grow 20 corn plants in the woods by their houses....they're successfully suing big farmers because they can find them....good luck finding me if i decide to grow the shit
Ahh, but you would have no reason to grow their shite. It won't be special to a smoker, or even a guerilla grower. It will only be special to a large grower with a LOT of acres in production.. But that doesn't mean they can't crowd out, buy up, or cripple the current breed of nute builders.

And it doesn't mean they can't try to cripple breeders with law suits and legal fees.

People hate Monsanto not only because they are soul-less cretans who bring us products like agent orange and round up. They hate them because they are the worst kind of corporate predators.
 

Tim Fox

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Got mold? Plants taste like robot ass? Don't have a clue what curing is? Think "dank" means stagnant basement water flavor? Get seeds? Buds never dry evenly and always smell fake as frog feathers?

Chances are you use a synthetic! Or the breeder did! It's going to take a long time to undo this fuckery, and there is only ONE way it's going to happen: ditch the poisoning process of direct salt injection. Its a fucking abomination and a scam against earth. HYDROPONIC WEED IS 3D PRINTED WEED. The cells are not grown, they are constructed. IT IS FAKE WEED. And I will be proving it without a doubt. Plants grown with direct injection of building materials are FAKE. No microbial gut/root relation: no Brix. No nutritional value. No medicinal value, very minute recreational value. Its plant fiber. Sad to see how many hopeful cancer patients were killed off by choosing hydroponic "medicine" rather than real Cannabis.

If you feed your plant, YOU HAVE POISONED IT. Stop listening to the Monsanto Satanists. They hate you, and hate nature. They eat shit for lunch, dead babies for breakfast and ground up plastic bits for desert. You dont wanna be like them. Grow up, realise their lies and your delusion. The fucking stoner tomatoes with dread locks are RUINING your crop one poison bottle at a time. They are LAUGHING at you. They HATE you. They are INTENTIONALLY RUINING YOUR HEALTH AND ERADICATING NATURE. It is their religion, to dehumanize the sheep and de-nature the planet. Why would anyone support this? Evil. Demented. Deluded.

Im tired of seeing FAKE BULLSHIT being smoked by my peers. Its always the same. Killed the plants health with salts, it got moldy, and now everything about it is fucked. Fruit scented "sweeteners" to the rescue. 300 an ounce please. Lol. You hydro growers are wacked out of your heads. Having to smoke bud soaked in plastic tasting chemicals just to keep the mold spores killed off. Or smoking stagnant waterbud and calling it "dank". Its fuckin wack. The fungus has entered your brain. Telling me you taste berries when theres no berry flavor even possible in the strain. Dude there's no berry but i can smell the nasty berry sweetener your retarded brain is telling you has given your weed a berry flavor. Youre a bunch of fake people, you salt growers. You are what you smoke. Fake ass placebo people smoking plastic infused moldgrass. Plastic people who stand behind image rather than substance.


Grow natural or don't bother. You offend God and Earth. Fake plants should be a crime. 3D printed cancer causing weed with zero brix. Its a cancerous placebo.

I'll say it again. SOIL-LESS GROWING IS POISONOUS GROWING. Skipping the plants digestive system and filling it with synthetic plastic fake bacteria poop? That's why you have: plastic flavor instead of weed flavor, Miracle-Gro smell instead of plant smell, mold instead of phenols, and seeds instead of trichomes.

And if youre growing in living water, congrats, you aren't a silly hydroponic grower, you just have a watery soil! But most of you have been lied to and have no idea you are still growing plastic weed: the microscope does not lie. Growing with salts is building a plant, not growing it. The shit is disease prone and useless by design! Mold can't live in healthy plants! DO YOU FUCKING PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THERE COMPANIES WORK??? THEY CAUSE THE PROBLEM SO THEY CAN SELL THE SOLUTION! SALTS ARE THE PROBLEM!

STOP USING THE DIRECT INJECTION METHOD. This is not the fuckin 70s, we have the information to expose the scam known as hydroponics (the electron microscope) SALTS ARE THE ONLY PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whew I dodged a bullet,, good thing i grow in No Till Organic soil,, water only the whole ride
 

whitebb2727

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Ahh, but you would have no reason to grow their shite. It won't be special to a smoker, or even a guerilla grower. It will only be special to a large grower with a LOT of acres in production.. But that doesn't mean they can't crowd out, buy up, or cripple the current breed of nute builders.

And it doesn't mean they can't try to cripple breeders with law suits and legal fees.

People hate Monsanto not only because they are soul-less cretans who bring us products like agent orange and round up. They hate them because they are the worst kind of corporate predators.
Yea they do that with corn and such but there are plenty of heirloom vendors left. I buy from them quite often. Well not so much anymore because I have a good seed stockpile. I also give seeds away.

Join heirloom collectives.

I dislike Monsanto. I dislike using bottled nutes. I'm not above using them. I'm busy. I like flowers. I use bottles occasionally. Not on food or cannabis.

Though I will be doing a bottled nute comparison.
 

Dr. Who

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a controlling partnership.
That is called the "OWNER" or ownership. They DO NOT!
The thing Monsanto has been doing with Scott's. Is research into TURF and garden products! Scott's has been the exclusive dist. of Round up for years and years. Scott's bought The Ortho line from Monsanto and as of lately they have worked with Monsanto on developing ORGANIC turf products...... You should remember that Monsanto is a chemical company. The seed and GMO operation is a division of.....

Monsanto will do proprietary research into marijuana fertilizers, biological protectants, soil, and other cannabis cultivation in an attempt to take over the lucrative market for marijuana fertilizers, supplements, and crop protectants.
This is a quote from the propaganda rag BIGBUDS mag. That's AN! AN IS the "Monsatan" of nutrient makers! They tell as much truth as FOX news...:finger: You will NOT find this "information/news" in any other form other then copied from that BB mag report!

They are doing that research today
Incorrect. You're falling for misinformation and misdirection from the biggest BS corporation involved in "Cannabis Nutrition"!

along with developing GMO strains that work exceedingly well with those products. Similar to roundup ready wheat, you won't be able to produce your own seeds once you go down that path, and even having plants with the marker gene, no matter how far removed, would get you sued.
This is so yesterdays news.....It started with soy beans, years ago! How do I know all this? I FARM!

Bottom line is that you should be more interested in some of Monsanto's latest PRESS RELEASE's! When asked about MMJ involvement by the company and or any research they were doing in the area. A COO (Chief Operations Officer) said; "Not only are we not involved in any research into marijuana, in any form, or it's growth needs. We have no plans, or intention to become involved in the future!

Spreading untrue, and misinformation is just stupid!

You need to vet your sources much, much better! Read your fucking Goggle search's past the first page.....Bet you didn't know that the first page or so is generally "paid for placement" listings by those that supply them.

I still hate MONSANTO!
I hate AN
I hate rumors more, and AN made them and you pass them along!

 
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Dr. Who

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And it doesn't mean they can't try to cripple breeders with law suits and legal fees.
Your wrong! The thing would be that a breeder would not have his plants hit with pollen from Monsanto's plants. Therefor, no legal ability to sue.

You simply don't understand how Monsanto did what they did with soy, do you? They came up with Roundup ready soy. Farmers jumped on that. Yield increase is $......The thing was that Monsanto patented the RR Soy strain they developed (by patenting the RR gene in the strain). My neighbor has a field of RR soy. On the other side of the road, I have non-patented soy from another supplier. HIS soy pollinates my soy naturally. Now I have soy beans that contain Monsanto's "gene". I can not use those seeds to clean and replant next year, they have the "gene" that Monsanto "owns"....

People hate Monsanto not only because they are soul-less cretans who bring us products like agent orange and round up. They hate them because they are the worst kind of corporate predators.
AGENT ORANGE was not "Created by" Monsanto. It was only Made by, and they were not the biggest "maker" of the chemical for the US Government...That would be DOW.

Apple is the same type of corporate "predator". They patent "idea's" as fast as they think them up..... Ipod was a joke....You bought one and as they came out with newer models, the software updates and Itunes update made them none functional. That meant you had to go get a new one that was supported by the software......That's called planned obsolescence and is a very, very shady practice..

There are far, far more Monsanto's out there. You just don;t see it..
 

Kingrow1

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If Monsanto want your weed they will take it

just as like good little puppy dogs you rolled over for Uncle Sam

its not cosa nostra anymore....
 

Observe & Report

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They have successfully sued farmers whose crops were pollinated by other farmers fields using their gmo seeds.They have the juice to get laws passed to ensure it. They get judges appointed to enforce it.
Which laws? What about OSGATA? You're just spreading hippie myth bullshit. There's plenty to criticize Monsanto about without making shit up.
 

Dr. Who

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Which laws? What about OSGATA? You're just spreading hippie myth bullshit. There's plenty to criticize Monsanto about without making shit up.
His comment you quoted. IS half true.... Monsanto "lobbied" congress (Paid off certain congress persons) and did get laws passed that made it possible for them to sue Farmers who had seeds pollinated by crops that contained their patented gene.... This happened all over the country. Many farmers have stories about someone being hit by the "Monsanto secret police". They literally had people that watched farmers to be sure they didn't "clean" seeds and replant them. They focused on farmers that did not run Monsanto GMO seeds. Farmers whose fellow farmers did use RR seeds. Pollinated the others crops - boom, your screwed. It was seen a lot in Iowa, Illinois, Indiana, Ohio, mostly the mid-west. The prairie farmers dealt with the wheat issue. When you run Farms measured by miles, and harvest with a fleet of harvesters. You tend to buy in bulk forms that make saving and reusing, rather hard. The Canadians had a fucking fit over GMO Wheat as they wheat farm MASSIVE amounts of the western prairie..... Saskatchewan and a big chunk of Alberta are all wheat farmed. You drive through miles and miles and miles of it...

A legal battle ensued. It made the Supreme court. Farmers lost.

He's partially drawing from an old 60 min report on Monsanto and GMO's in relation to the farmers not being able to use their own crops for re-plant. Plenty of seed washing business's went out of business from that...
 

Observe & Report

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A legal battle ensued. It made the Supreme court. Farmers lost.
You're talking about a guy who planted a crop with seed from the grain elevator then applied glyphosate to kill off all the plants that didn't have the patented gene so he could plant more of it next season and continue to use glyphosate without buying RoundUp Ready(*TM) seed from Monsanto. See, you don't even know how deep this bullshit is.

After you read Bowman, read OSGATA. OSGATA couldn't find any examples of Monsanto suing farmers who didn't want anything to do with glyphosate, I bet you can't either. Monsanto can't promise they're not going to sue people in one court while they're suing people for that very thing in another one. It's called judicial estoppel.
 
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