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schuylaar

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twostrokenut said:
you are implying stuffs. Hitler wanted social justice for what he perceived as oppression from the capitalist jews.

it's historical fact. I'm not conflating that with American progressive sjws entirely but pointing out the similarities only because the sjws like to bandy about the Nazi label.

both are authoritarian. take your gay marriage example. decree of who can or who cannot marry through the state is authoritarian.

authoritarian is left, no government is right.
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you need to go back to school and take a sociology course.
 
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Sir Napsalot said:
I got lousy grades in highschool- I wouldn't do the homework which counted for like 50% of my grade, but I aced all the tests because I did actually read and understand the material
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I used to drive my teachers crazy, because they could never bust me on exams.
I can relate
 
Fogdog

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twostrokenut said:
so you're a postmodernist, a marxist that had to take a new skin in the late 60s because the evidence was so overwhelming that every variant of communism was an epic murderous failure that even the French philosophers had to admit it.

so the proletariat vs the bourgeois became simply the opressed vs the opressor in this new iteration that came mostly through Yale's English dept in the 70s.

and you're saying Democratic solicialism is the way forward. is that about right?
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Dude, there are many countries that are thriving with Democratic socialism as a core principle in their social and economic structure. Those countries have stronger economies, happier people and more social mobility than the US.

There are no examples of a successful society based upon your libertarian ideology. Policies based upon falsehoods like the ones foisted upon you by the Mises institute -- the fount of libertarian ideals -- are bound to fail.

btw, It's spelled bourgeoisie. It doesn't matter, you'll never be one unless you win a big lottery.
 
Sour Wreck

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Fogdog said:
Dude, there are many countries that are thriving with Democratic socialism as a core principle in their social and economic structure. Those countries have stronger economies, happier people and more social mobility than the US.

There are no examples of a successful society based upon your libertarian ideology. Policies based upon falsehoods like the ones foisted upon you by the Mises institute -- the fount of libertarian ideals -- are bound to fail.

btw, It's spelled bourgeoisie. It doesn't matter, you'll never be one unless you win a big lottery.
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well said, he won't understand.

in this day and age, debate is useless. until we get rid of faux news, rush, levin, brietbart and drudge we will have TWO SETS of FACTS.

real facts, which the majority of of us base decisions on and faux news who purposely deceive, misled and instill fear in their viewers.

thanks ronald reagan for getting rid of the fairness doctrine, you have led us back top the brink of choking the living shit out of each other.
 
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schuylaar

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PCXV said:
No, and I've corrected you on this several times. Maybe you don't know what communism or democratic socialism is? I only support a mixed economy, meaning private and public.

Democratic socialism sounds like a misnomer to me, because it seems to imply absolute socialism under democracy, but in reality it retains the private market and just expands the public sector to include more common goods while also strengthening safety nets.
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would you describe it as similar principal to weed collective? where 'we the people' are means of production collective?
 
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schuylaar

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Sour Wreck said:
well said, he won't understand.

in this day and age, debate is useless. until we get rid of faux news, rush, levin, brietbart and drudge we will have TWO SETS of FACTS.

real facts, which the majority of of us base decisions on and faux news who purposely deceive, misled and instill fear in their viewers.

thanks ronald reagan for getting rid of the fairness doctrine, you have led us back top the brink of choking the living shit out of each other.
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no. there are NOT two sets of facts. there are facts and (let's say it together)..lies.

please don't give credence to this.
 
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schuylaar

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Sour Wreck said:
well like kellyanne said.

alternative facts


and yes, they are just fucking lies. now we have to convince the home schooled students of that.
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there is no such thing as an alternative fact except those that reside in kellyanne's mind.

this is called 'normalizing' aka 'acceptance' of the lie.

do you accept lying from your partner, kids, friends, family members, co-workers?
 
zeddd

zeddd

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twostrokenut said:
so you're a postmodernist, a marxist that had to take a new skin in the late 60s because the evidence was so overwhelming that every variant of communism was an epic murderous failure that even the French philosophers had to admit it.

so the proletariat vs the bourgeois became simply the opressed vs the opressor in this new iteration that came mostly through Yale's English dept in the 70s.

and you're saying Democratic solicialism is the way forward. is that about right?
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You went to Yale?
 
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